What we need for 2005 - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

wolf123 · 11-14-2004

Since finaly everyone sees that we lack talent in alot of places here is what I suggest we do about it.
1. DT- no one outside of robaire smith can even remotely generate a pass rush, we need to either go for marcus spears, or another stud tackle in the draft.
2. Middle linebacker- jay foreman is average at best and it would be great if we could pick on up, either by free agency or the draft, ed hartwell is a free agent and would work nicely and there our some good talent in the draft at around the second round.
3. In the third round we should go for the best player available like a maybe a offensive linemen, like a center or guard or draft another safety.
Hopefully we can cure this lack of talent by next year

**Vinny** · 11-14-2004

Robaire Smith? The guy with one sack all year and no tackles today?

**utahmark** · 11-14-2004

that sounds good we need both of those positions filled on defense. but if we wait till the 3rd round for a o-lineman we better get one or two in free agency.

TexSon · 11-14-2004

Ol, Dl, Mlb, Rb

**TEXANS84** · 11-14-2004

OL...the more time Carr has, the better chances we have to put up points. This game looked like the ESPN commercial 2 years ago.

LiveForTheGame · 11-14-2004

Not only does Carr get more time. We can also run the ball and open up the passing game even more.

Fiddy · 11-14-2004

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Originally Posted by Vinny

Robaire Smith? The guy with one sack all year and no tackles today?

Yeah, but I heard on SR610 that the coaches have been pleased with Smith and Walker because they have been steady and for the most part they have tied up blockers, which is their job. I would like more big plays from him, though...

This is the guy we need:

Errant Hothy · 11-14-2004

^yes, please.

As for the lack of pass rush from the DL...we run a friggin 3-4, not the 4-3 or the 46 even. D-line in this system are not supposed to generate a pass rush, their job is to tie up blockers. As for R. Smith's lack of tackles today...plenty of blame to spread around today, overall I think Robaire has played fairly well this year.

phan1 · 11-14-2004

OLINE OLINE OLINE! I'd like to say defense is a problem too, but look at the rest of the league. NO ONE looks like they're playing good defense, and I think it's because of the new NFL rules. Either way, defense didn't do too bad today. The Colts scored on only about half of their possetions today, and that's no too bad. What was bad was the number of possetions they got...

wags · 11-14-2004

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Originally Posted by phan1

Either way, defense didn't do too bad today. The Colts scored on only about half of their possetions today, and that's no too bad. What was bad was the number of possetions they got...

Have to disagree with you on the defense not playing too bad. From missed tackles and bad angles on the Stokley TD, to Coleman whiffing and giving up an eighty yarder to a tight end, I think they did pretty bad. How many yards after the catch did the Colts have? It had to be a ton.

As for what we need in 2005, how about a sure tackler on the defensive side of the ball, or someone who knows what their deep responsibilty is.

wolf123 · 11-14-2004

In the 3-4 defense you need lineman who can tie up blockers and get after the quarterback in the pass rush. Right now all we have is one linemen who can do both, seth payne is still working his way back, and gary walker hasn't played well at all.
Also the O-line is going to improve and theirs no way the texans draft a o-linemen in the first two rounds. wand and pitts are both young and inexperienced at their positions.
In the draft were either going DL in round one or Secondary help.

luv-ya-blue · 11-15-2004

It all starts in the trenches......this team just hasnt had enough time to build up enough talent, specially on the OL. Im hoping this draft is a strong one for the OL . The last couple of years its been a strong DL draft and fairly weak for the OL except for Gallery. The Texans really need an all-pro tackle to anchor the line. Bossili would have really turned our fortunes around but it wasnt to be.

TheOgre · 11-15-2004

I think we need to get a stud RB. Davis gave us false hope of that last season. I also think we need to bolster our D-line and O-line. Perhaps we should look at RB, NT, C in this draft.

nunusguy · 11-15-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by phan1

OLINE OLINE OLINE! I'd like to say defense is a problem too, but look at the rest of the league. NO ONE looks like they're playing good defense, and I think it's because of the new NFL rules. Either way, defense didn't do too bad today. The Colts scored on only about half of their possetions today, and that's no too bad. What was bad was the number of possetions they got...

Couldn't agree more. The Colts will score a ton of points against any and every defense in the NFL. But their D is and has been for years less than
average. Any mediore offene should be effective against the Colts D. Ours
wasn't yesterday.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 11-15-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Couldn't agree more. The Colts will score a ton of points against any and every defense in the NFL. But their D is and has been for years less than
average. Any mediore offene should be effective against the Colts D. Ours
wasn't yesterday.

Honestly, this is the one game that it may have been best to come out with a couple of runs and of course this is the game that we pass on the 3 times on the first series. It was the offense's job to limit the touches of the colts with 10-12 play drives and that did not happen until it was to late.

Nawzer · 11-15-2004

The most shocking/dissapointing thing about our performance yesterday was the ineptness of our offense. I knew our defense couldn't stop Peyton and his bunch but I thought our offense will keep it close and let us stay in the game. The Colts defense ranks last in the league and I thought that we coud atleast put up points and stay on the field. Unfortunately, that was the worst performance by our o-line since we played the Chargers in our first year. If our offense played well then those two INT's by our defense could've been the big plays that we needed to win the game. Overall I thought we got outplayed and outcoached in every single area of yesterday's game. Capers and his crew have a lot of work to do now and hopefully we'll be much better in our Sunday night game against the Packers.

11-14-2004	#1
wolf123 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 27 Posts: 694 Rep Power: 1857	What we need for 2005 Since finaly everyone sees that we lack talent in alot of places here is what I suggest we do about it. 1. DT- no one outside of robaire smith can even remotely generate a pass rush, we need to either go for marcus spears, or another stud tackle in the draft. 2. Middle linebacker- jay foreman is average at best and it would be great if we could pick on up, either by free agency or the draft, ed hartwell is a free agent and would work nicely and there our some good talent in the draft at around the second round. 3. In the third round we should go for the best player available like a maybe a offensive linemen, like a center or guard or draft another safety. Hopefully we can cure this lack of talent by next year

11-15-2004	#16
Nawzer Alienz Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 30 Posts: 6,083 Rep Power: 14368	The most shocking/dissapointing thing about our performance yesterday was the ineptness of our offense. I knew our defense couldn't stop Peyton and his bunch but I thought our offense will keep it close and let us stay in the game. The Colts defense ranks last in the league and I thought that we coud atleast put up points and stay on the field. Unfortunately, that was the worst performance by our o-line since we played the Chargers in our first year. If our offense played well then those two INT's by our defense could've been the big plays that we needed to win the game. Overall I thought we got outplayed and outcoached in every single area of yesterday's game. Capers and his crew have a lot of work to do now and hopefully we'll be much better in our Sunday night game against the Packers. __________________ Fortune favors the brave NOT the stupid!

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11-14-2004	#2
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Robaire Smith? The guy with one sack all year and no tackles today?

11-14-2004	#3
utahmark markbeth Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: utah Age: 43 Posts: 1,914 Rep Power: 5935	that sounds good we need both of those positions filled on defense. but if we wait till the 3rd round for a o-lineman we better get one or two in free agency.

11-14-2004	#4
TexSon Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,112 Rep Power: 15	Ol, Dl, Mlb, Rb

11-14-2004	#5
TEXANS84 Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Age: 35 Posts: 7,446 Rep Power: 3116	OL...the more time Carr has, the better chances we have to put up points. This game looked like the ESPN commercial 2 years ago.

11-14-2004	#6
LiveForTheGame Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston Age: 25 Posts: 311 Rep Power: 0	Not only does Carr get more time. We can also run the ball and open up the passing game even more.

11-14-2004	#8
Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Keller, Tx Age: 34 Posts: 9,654 Rep Power: 7471	^yes, please. As for the lack of pass rush from the DL...we run a friggin 3-4, not the 4-3 or the 46 even. D-line in this system are not supposed to generate a pass rush, their job is to tie up blockers. As for R. Smith's lack of tackles today...plenty of blame to spread around today, overall I think Robaire has played fairly well this year.

11-14-2004	#9
phan1 All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 650 Rep Power: 9	OLINE OLINE OLINE! I'd like to say defense is a problem too, but look at the rest of the league. NO ONE looks like they're playing good defense, and I think it's because of the new NFL rules. Either way, defense didn't do too bad today. The Colts scored on only about half of their possetions today, and that's no too bad. What was bad was the number of possetions they got...

11-15-2004	#12
luv-ya-blue Rookie Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	It all starts in the trenches......this team just hasnt had enough time to build up enough talent, specially on the OL. Im hoping this draft is a strong one for the OL . The last couple of years its been a strong DL draft and fairly weak for the OL except for Gallery. The Texans really need an all-pro tackle to anchor the line. Bossili would have really turned our fortunes around but it wasnt to be.

11-15-2004	#13
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	I think we need to get a stud RB. Davis gave us false hope of that last season. I also think we need to bolster our D-line and O-line. Perhaps we should look at RB, NT, C in this draft.

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