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fikster · 10-21-2007

Is anyone else tired of Richard Smith's no blitzing, Petey Faggins loving D? We have three top draft picks on the D line, reigning Rookie of the year at MLB and a top notch corner on the field, why can't we sack anyone? I do think we have talent on the field, not in the secondary, but the front seven are pretty good players. We don't do stunts, corner blitzes, zero blitzes or anything. Sure DRob got beat on a play today, but that was pretty good coverage and a great throw.

36 minutes is a long time on the field, but most of that could have been cut if we put some pressure on the other team. Start Bennett at CB from now on and keep Faggins off the field, in the off season get us a real D coordinator in here and let's play some freaking D!

**mexican_texan** · 10-21-2007

Frank Bush will eventually take over.

Honoring Earl 34 · 10-21-2007

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Originally Posted by mexican_texan

Frank Bush will eventually take over.

Like tomorrow .

10-22-2007

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

Like tomorrow .

I wish somehow you were in the know and this was for real. Yeah our defense did well in the red (tds that is) but we need a change.

HuttoKarl · 10-22-2007

Our defense looked much better early when we let the corners play man and sent some help. Rushing four is getting old.

YoungTexanFan · 10-22-2007

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Originally Posted by HuttoKarl

Our defense looked much better early when we let the corners play man and sent some help. Rushing four is getting old.

We don't have the talent to play man consistently. That is a main problem. However, when we rush people, good things happen more than not.

SuperTexan · 10-23-2007

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

We don't have the talent to play man consistently. That is a main problem. However, when we rush people, good things happen more than not.

Wow. How insightful. "When we rush people, good things happen more than not."

**badboy** · 10-23-2007

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Originally Posted by KJ3

i'm just amazed that after sending demeco on a blitz, getting the sack, the fumble, the recovery, and the touchdown that hardly anyone was sent in after that...

like...dude...it worked...do it again...and again...and againandagain...

Got to be careful not to wear it out.

The Pencil Neck · 10-23-2007

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Originally Posted by KJ3

um...is that sarcasm?

i just don't see the point in blitzing demeco once a game. once a quarter maybe at the most but...seems silly to me after seeing the blitz produce so much that you would abandon it

Maybe you just weren't watching.

We blitzed Demeco more than one time. I didn't keep count, but I'm pretty sure we blitzed him more than 1/qtr, too.

It worked once. But it didn't work every time we tried it.

10-23-2007

Our blitz packages are a joke.

A real live, fall down on the ground, laugh so hard my side hurts...joke...

We have two LB's that can interchange in Demeco and Clark, yet we never use that to our advantage...

How about blitzing Demeco from some place other than in the middle ? That'd be smart...

He's obviously our best blitzer, yet we have no schemes (as far as I can tell) to take advantage of that..

And whichever coach or coaches said that they are blitzing more than fans realize should be ashamed of himself...

If I am watching a football game and I can't tell when you are blitzing, that means your blitzes are trash...

Some creativity on Defense would be nice....

**badboy** · 10-23-2007

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Originally Posted by KJ3

um...is that sarcasm?

i just don't see the point in blitzing demeco once a game. once a quarter maybe at the most but...seems silly to me after seeing the blitz produce so much that you would abandon it

yes it was. I think so much is wrong with our team that the coaches don't want do anything with what is working. Demeco is great so don't touch him is the theory. I also would like to see more risk taken. Shoot Petey on a blitz, he can't cover anyway.

TexansLucky13 · 10-23-2007

There were a couple times where he blitzed two linebackers to the weak side... it didn't work.

**Double Barrel** · 10-23-2007

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Originally Posted by SuperTexan

Wow. How insightful. "When we rush people, good things happen more than not."

And a great nothing added to the thread with your post. How about talking about the subject at hand instead of attacking a fellow forum member. I haven't seen you say anything "insightful".

The Pencil Neck · 10-23-2007

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Originally Posted by KJ3

i was there, i was definitely watching. i only saw him blitz twice. and i only saw demeco blitzing, which is probably incorrect...but then again, i'm not the type who can look at the whole field at every moment...

We had a lot more blitzes than that. Later tonight, I'll go back through the game and actually count.

What I find interesting is that the first 3 weeks we were playing OK and we weren't blitzing at all.

Then starting in the Atlanta game, we start blitzing all over the place and our defense starts taking a step back. That exactly the opposite of what happened last year.

Our blitzes are really crappy.

**Texan_Bill** · 10-23-2007

If you are going to blitz from the weak side, you'd better have someone like Dr. Doom coming.

**Vinny** · 10-23-2007

Richard Smith's Defense? There is a joke in the thread title but I'll probably do the Nancy Regan and just say "No".

It seems that the defense is based on the assumption that our D-line is a dominant one. Frankly, our D-line has 'potential', but potential means you haven't done it yet.

Rex King · 10-23-2007

I think it's a combination of poor blitz schemes and poor blitzers. It's not good when your best cover corner is your second best blitzer. We need a stud OLB and/or FS in the worst way.

After watching the game again, most of the time Collins was taking short drops with quick routes, but the front four were still able to get pretty good pressure on him. DeMeco had the one big play, but otherwise, the blitz was picked up pretty easily. In stark contrast to our offense Sunday - missed assignments, missed blocks, missed adjustments by the coaching staff, and, yes, missed reads by the QB.

The Pencil Neck · 10-24-2007

By my count, I saw 12 blitzes on pass plays. There were a few others where we were coming on running plays but I didn't really count those. 6 of our 12 blitzes were multiple players. That's 12 out of 45 pass plays. (NFL shows 42, but I was including plays with penalties.) That's 26.7% of the time.

We had 3 plays where we dropped a linemen into coverage but instead of being a zone blitz, it was actually treating the down lineman as a LB and dropping him into coverage. Every play we did that, something good happened: Maddux dropped into coverage on the second fumble, Collins threw the ball away on one play, and Maddux dropped into coverage and stopped a screen for short yardage. We lined up in a 3-4 one time.

I only noted 4 plays where the linemen were stunting, I thought they had been doing it more than that. ND Kalu is really good at getting pressure when we do that.

In the 3rd quarter, we only blitzed one time. In the 4th quarter, we blitzed every pass play (4) until that last 50 second drive. And then we only blitzed (Morlon) on that last long damned pass to Williams to set up the field goal.

We had a couple of times where Collins just got the ball out before a blitzer got to him. I counted 4 times where Demeco was blitzing and another couple of times where he was coming up but not actually blitzing, just reading/shadowing the RB. Danny Clark got close once and Charlie Adams almost got him, too.

By my count:

Morlon - 6
Demeco - 4
Danny - 3
Petey - 2
CC - 2
Von - 1
Charlie Anderson - 1

And of all of them, Charlie and Demeco looked the best blitzing.

After looking back through this... I really feel better about our defense. Our offense was really screwing them over. 3/4's of the way through the 3rd quarter, we only had 30 yards of offense and 1 or 2 first downs. It's unbelievable that we were able to still come back from those 6 turnovers. This is exactly what we used to complain about with our offense a couple of years ago.

Let's hope our offense can get back on track.

dtran04 · 10-24-2007

Thanks for the breakdown.

10-21-2007	#1
fikster All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 584 Rep Power: 100	Richard Smith's Defense Is anyone else tired of Richard Smith's no blitzing, Petey Faggins loving D? We have three top draft picks on the D line, reigning Rookie of the year at MLB and a top notch corner on the field, why can't we sack anyone? I do think we have talent on the field, not in the secondary, but the front seven are pretty good players. We don't do stunts, corner blitzes, zero blitzes or anything. Sure DRob got beat on a play today, but that was pretty good coverage and a great throw. 36 minutes is a long time on the field, but most of that could have been cut if we put some pressure on the other team. Start Bennett at CB from now on and keep Faggins off the field, in the off season get us a real D coordinator in here and let's play some freaking D!

10-22-2007	#5
HuttoKarl Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,655 Rep Power: 1622	Re: Richard Smith's Defense Our defense looked much better early when we let the corners play man and sent some help. Rushing four is getting old. __________________ monkey

10-23-2007	#10
real Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Richard Smith's Defense Our blitz packages are a joke. A real live, fall down on the ground, laugh so hard my side hurts...joke... We have two LB's that can interchange in Demeco and Clark, yet we never use that to our advantage... How about blitzing Demeco from some place other than in the middle ? That'd be smart... He's obviously our best blitzer, yet we have no schemes (as far as I can tell) to take advantage of that.. And whichever coach or coaches said that they are blitzing more than fans realize should be ashamed of himself... If I am watching a football game and I can't tell when you are blitzing, that means your blitzes are trash... Some creativity on Defense would be nice.... Last edited by real; 10-23-2007 at 12:57 PM.

10-23-2007	#12
TexansLucky13 53d Signal Batt Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 4,764 Rep Power: 1060	Re: Richard Smith's Defense There were a couple times where he blitzed two linebackers to the weak side... it didn't work. __________________

10-23-2007	#15
Texan_Bill Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston. Mediocrity Lives Here!! Section: Bull Pen!! Age: 45 Posts: 47,086 Rep Power: 41545	Re: Richard Smith's Defense If you are going to blitz from the weak side, you'd better have someone like Dr. Doom coming. __________________ DeAndre!

10-23-2007	#16
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Re: Richard Smith's Defense Richard Smith's Defense? There is a joke in the thread title but I'll probably do the Nancy Regan and just say "No". It seems that the defense is based on the assumption that our D-line is a dominant one. Frankly, our D-line has 'potential', but potential means you haven't done it yet. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

10-23-2007	#17
Rex King Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 405 Rep Power: 10	Re: Richard Smith's Defense I think it's a combination of poor blitz schemes and poor blitzers. It's not good when your best cover corner is your second best blitzer. We need a stud OLB and/or FS in the worst way. After watching the game again, most of the time Collins was taking short drops with quick routes, but the front four were still able to get pretty good pressure on him. DeMeco had the one big play, but otherwise, the blitz was picked up pretty easily. In stark contrast to our offense Sunday - missed assignments, missed blocks, missed adjustments by the coaching staff, and, yes, missed reads by the QB.

10-24-2007	#18
The Pencil Neck Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 51 Posts: 14,407 Rep Power: 45486	Re: Richard Smith's Defense By my count, I saw 12 blitzes on pass plays. There were a few others where we were coming on running plays but I didn't really count those. 6 of our 12 blitzes were multiple players. That's 12 out of 45 pass plays. (NFL shows 42, but I was including plays with penalties.) That's 26.7% of the time. We had 3 plays where we dropped a linemen into coverage but instead of being a zone blitz, it was actually treating the down lineman as a LB and dropping him into coverage. Every play we did that, something good happened: Maddux dropped into coverage on the second fumble, Collins threw the ball away on one play, and Maddux dropped into coverage and stopped a screen for short yardage. We lined up in a 3-4 one time. I only noted 4 plays where the linemen were stunting, I thought they had been doing it more than that. ND Kalu is really good at getting pressure when we do that. In the 3rd quarter, we only blitzed one time. In the 4th quarter, we blitzed every pass play (4) until that last 50 second drive. And then we only blitzed (Morlon) on that last long damned pass to Williams to set up the field goal. We had a couple of times where Collins just got the ball out before a blitzer got to him. I counted 4 times where Demeco was blitzing and another couple of times where he was coming up but not actually blitzing, just reading/shadowing the RB. Danny Clark got close once and Charlie Adams almost got him, too. By my count: Morlon - 6 Demeco - 4 Danny - 3 Petey - 2 CC - 2 Von - 1 Charlie Anderson - 1 And of all of them, Charlie and Demeco looked the best blitzing. After looking back through this... I really feel better about our defense. Our offense was really screwing them over. 3/4's of the way through the 3rd quarter, we only had 30 yards of offense and 1 or 2 first downs. It's unbelievable that we were able to still come back from those 6 turnovers. This is exactly what we used to complain about with our offense a couple of years ago. Let's hope our offense can get back on track. __________________ Adoptee: #55 - Chris Myers. Last edited by The Pencil Neck; 10-24-2007 at 12:19 AM. Reason: Adding a Y.

10-24-2007	#19
dtran04 Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 27 Posts: 1,456 Rep Power: 1226	Re: Richard Smith's Defense Thanks for the breakdown.

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