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Old 10-17-2007   #1
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Default Anyone worried about our defensive coaching?

First off i'd like to say that i'm not trying to upset anyone on here im just stating my opinion.

I think Richard Smith is a liability as a DC and is stunting the growth of all of our young highly drafted players on defense. I dont agree with his playcalling and I think we're way too predictable on defense. I believe that our defense is WAY too talented to have guys like Joey Harrington and Cleo Lemon look like all pro qbs against them. I know Faggins is a liability as a CB 2 as well but our safeties are improved this year, im really impressed with CC Brown's improvement now that he's at his natural SS spot and I like Von Hutchin's, we really shouldn't be abused like we are in the passing game. Every team just matches their # 1 WR on Faggins' side and after getting burned numerous times they decide not to put DRob on that receiver but to play Faggins 10 yards off the ball and give up the first down on key 3rd down plays. Bennett is coming along real well though and I hope he takes over the CB 2 sooner than later.

As for our pass rush I believe a lot of it is just bad coaching, again we've got too much talent on this D-Line to not be getting consistent pressure. If we blitz it is so predictable the people in the mezzanine see it coming. For the most part we're playing preseason vanilla defenses and I am tired of it.

Who here agrees with me atleast somewhat? I'd like to see the smothering defense I know we're capable of having but I dont think we'll be seeing it as long as the coaching philosophy is the same on defense.
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yes... I think Richard Smith is a below average DC... I don't think he's awful but I don't think he is an asset... My guess is he'll be replaced with Frank Bush or someone from the outside after this season- so I'm not too worried.
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Yea I'm a little worried myself. We invest all these draft picks and money into the defense, I want to be sure I have a coach who's going to get the most out of my investment. Richard Smith doesn't have a well established resume as a DC, so it's difficult to know if our defensive problems are more greatly attributed to the scheme or the personnel.
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First off i'd like to say that i'm not trying to upset anyone on here im just stating my opinion.

I think Richard Smith is a liability as a DC and is stunting the growth of all of our young highly drafted players on defense. I dont agree with his playcalling and I think we're way too predictable on defense. I believe that our defense is WAY too talented to have guys like Joey Harrington and Cleo Lemon look like all pro qbs against them. I know Faggins is a liability as a CB 2 as well but our safeties are improved this year, im really impressed with CC Brown's improvement now that he's at his natural SS spot and I like Von Hutchin's, we really shouldn't be abused like we are in the passing game. Every team just matches their # 1 WR on Faggins' side and after getting burned numerous times they decide not to put DRob on that receiver but to play Faggins 10 yards off the ball and give up the first down on key 3rd down plays. Bennett is coming along real well though and I hope he takes over the CB 2 sooner than later.

As for our pass rush I believe a lot of it is just bad coaching, again we've got too much talent on this D-Line to not be getting consistent pressure. If we blitz it is so predictable the people in the mezzanine see it coming. For the most part we're playing preseason vanilla defenses and I am tired of it.

Who here agrees with me atleast somewhat? I'd like to see the smothering defense I know we're capable of having but I dont think we'll be seeing it as long as the coaching philosophy is the same on defense.
The idea has been growing on me more as this year goes on. There are times I'm just not sure what Richard Smith wants to do defensively(not in a good way either).

Ron Rivera is just a LBs coach in SD now i believe........I'm just sayin.
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The idea has been growing on me more as this year goes on. There are times I'm just not sure what Richard Smith wants to do defensively(not in a good way either).

Ron Rivera is just a LBs coach in SD now i believe........I'm just sayin.
I agree. I think the defense hasn't even approached an identity. Smith has been here 22 games now and I'm not sure what he's wanting or trying to put together. Based on the first month of the season, it looks like he may want a bit of a flex defense, AKA the Cowboys of the 70s. It appears he wants the front 4 to control the line of scrimmage first, attack the QB second, and he wants the backers to drop into coverage. I'd like to see a more attacking style- not even more blitzing neccessarily but a more aggressive philosophy with the front 4. I think we're going to be good offensively pretty soon, so, giving up the occasional big play isn't too bad a thing if you're also creating turnovers. More offensive posessions means more opportunities for a good offense to score- or, at least get into the red zone and then freak out!
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Default Re: Anyone worried about our defensive coaching?

I've had a problem with it since they hired Frank Bush as senior defensive assistant. Frank is the guy that Kubiak wanted as DC, but couldn't get to him, so he hired Richard Smith. If there aren't clear defined roles of who does what, I predicted some problems between the two. Based on the "lack of an identity" ideas and the often lukewarm coordinating, I think it is a result of two people being put in charge of the defense.
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Default Re: Anyone worried about our defensive coaching?

I believe both our offense and defense lack identities due to there not being 1 person that makes the final call on gameplanning and playcalling. Sherman/Kubiak run the offense but their styles clash. It looks like Richard Smith and Frank Bush run the defense and they love vanilla I guess.

Only Joe Marciano is the unquestioned coordinator of a unit on this football team.
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I believe both our offense and defense lack identities due to there not being 1 person that makes the final call on gameplanning and playcalling. Sherman/Kubiak run the offense but their styles clash. It looks like Richard Smith and Frank Bush run the defense and they love vanilla I guess.

Only Joe Marciano is the unquestioned coordinator of a unit on this football team.

Exactly!! BUT, the ball falls in Kubiak's lap. It's HIS job to pull it all together, and he's way to bland so far, and has done a lousy job, JMO. He needs to toughen up and become the HEAD COACH or move on. It's his job to make all three units click on all cylinders.
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Richard Smith is a hack! His playcalling is suspect and his schemes are vanilla, at best. His time has come and gone with this team, and like SheTexan said, the head coach had better be accountable and make the changes required to upgrade our defensive coaching if we hope to improve.
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I have to agree with the majority here. Richard Smith plain sucks.

And I couldn't believe that Kubes agrees with his philopshy regarding the way they play Dunta. He has Dunta cover a side of the field rather than a receiver. Could they make it any easier for the opposition to game plan Dunta out of the game. And then Kubes has the stones to get on the radio and say that's the way we play defense and we believe in that philosphy. What a total load of BS. Mcnair needs to grow a pair and tell them to have Dunta get on their #1 all day, and stick to him like glue, or go pack your bags.

On top of that, the D they play looks like most teams pre-season defense. There is nothing at all exotic that they do, maybe some stunts and so forth but they really play pretty plain vanilla. Someone's head needs to roll on some of this stuff if this continues all year.
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Every team just matches their # 1 WR on Faggins' side and after getting burned numerous times they decide not to put DRob on that receiver but to play Faggins 10 yards off the ball and give up the first down on key 3rd down plays. Bennett is coming along real well though and I hope he takes over the CB 2 sooner than later.
That is what bothers me the most. Why would we let them, as Porky said, effectively let teams gameplan Drob out like that. This is a boring defense and I don't understand why. When is the last time that we saw a corner blitz from DRob? Oh, when Capers and Fangio were here. I have never called for a coach's head but I want Smith gone. Let Bush have control. We need a new wrinkle.
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I could swear they had D-Rob blitz during preseason, then abandoned it.
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Anyone know how Frank Bush runs his defense?
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I couldn't agree more. Rick needs to get the boot, and to be honest, I'm going to lose a lot of faith in Kube's if he doesn't handle it this offseason. Surely he sees it too, and wants to wait until the offseason. But I think it would be great to see him make a point and fire him midseason and have Bush take over.

And whoever said earlier that Ron Rivera is an LB coach somewhere....If that's true, I'll second that nomination!! I thought he was a DC somewhere though?
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And whoever said earlier that Ron Rivera is an LB coach somewhere....If that's true, I'll second that nomination!! I thought he was a DC somewhere though?
He is the SD LB coach right now. I would not mind going after him.
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So if Richard Smith sucks so much how did the Texans D make the huge turnaround that they did last season?
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I could swear they had D-Rob blitz during preseason, then abandoned it.
Dude is disruptive as hell when he blitzes. The only problem is that he is our only solid DB.

They should send the rookie, or something. We need to mix up the pass rush.... as if one existed anyways.
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They should send the rookie, or something.
Send anybody! I don't care!

I just want to see a minimum of 5 players rushing at one time at least 5 plays a game rather than our usual 0.
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Ok this is all I want.... and I mean it...

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOMEONE MAKE A STOP ON THIRD DOWN. IS IT TOO MUCH TO MAKE THE OTHER TEAM PUNT?

ok thats it. whoever can make that happen, hire him now.

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