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Old 10-17-2007   #1
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Default Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

because everyone has already forgotten how well he played on sunday. he finished with a career-high and game-high 12 catches for 160 yards (13.3 avg.).

just giving the due recognition.
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Old 10-17-2007   #2
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He has actually won me over. The more games he plays, the better he plays.
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Default Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

I don't know why you would think people don't like KW...I can't think of anyone slamming him or being negative about him since he has started to actually produce something. He's kinda of a cross between Tim Smith (ex-Oiler) and Joe Jurevicius...he really hasn't done much till the last few games.
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Default Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

Being impressed with AD or JJ doesn't necessarilly mean not liking Walter. Besides, I'm sure this last game has a lot of people changing their minds. I'm kind of on the fence right now, which is much better for Walter than what I thought a week ago.
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vinny-seems to me that a lot of people still don't see him as a viable #2 across from aj. especially while andre davis was making a couple catches people wanted him at the 3 and davis at 2. i was never sold on davis (and that was before the endzone fumble and getting manhandled/letting the ball go) but i just felt like walter deserved some mention on here because he had a terrific game.
he's had what...one big game? Gaffney had a double digit catch game when AJ was out with Carr...we all know he was cut by two teams shortly afterwards. Patience....time will tell.
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Cool Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

I think AD and KW are two different types. AD is the speed burst smaller guy, while Kevin is a better blocking, more physical receiver (I could be totally wrong, but that's my mental impression).
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Default Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

its called an analogy...try one sometimes...they are tasty.
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I think AD and KW are two different types. AD is the speed burst smaller guy, while Kevin is a better blocking, more physical receiver (I could be totally wrong, but that's my mental impression).
That's an accurate description of each. Which begs the question, why use KW instead of AD in the reverse play that took all afternoon th develope with the plodding KW ? And whoever you use Kubiak, please don't have Schaub out there running interference. Dang kubiak !
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Default Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

All Schaub has to do is stick his head in somebody's knee. That ain't so hard.
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Apparently your analogy wasn't analgesic.
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That's an accurate description of each. Which begs the question, why use KW instead of AD in the reverse play that took all afternoon th develope with the plodding KW ? And whoever you use Kubiak, please don't have Schaub out there running interference. Dang kubiak !
That play was run with KW (I admit going what during the play) to set up a different play later in the game with the same formation and personnel--a pass that ended up with a pretty long gain I believe.
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Default Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

KJ3, to answer your question as to "why some people don't like Kevin Walter" is because he's a possession receiver. A possession receiver at the #2, no matter who it is, is just too vanilla for the great unwashed.

They want someone who has the speed to take it to the house, if he should happen to beat his man deep. They don't see that in Walter, and that's all they care about. Walter just ain't 'sexy' enough.
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KJ3, to answer your question as to "why some people don't like Kevin Walter" is because he's a possession receiver. A possession receiver at the #2, no matter who it is, is just too vanilla for the great unwashed.

They want someone who has the speed to take it to the house, if he should happen to beat his man deep. They don't see that in Walter, and that's all they care about. Walter just ain't 'sexy' enough.
And the funny thing is he catches balls deep with receptions this year of 39, 35 and 46 yds already.
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And the funny thing is he catches balls deep with receptions this year of 39, 35 and 46 yds already.
Catching a deep ball and taking it to the house are two different things. No doubt Walter will catch it, he will however get caught shortly there after.
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Catching a deep ball and taking it to the house are two different things. No doubt Walter will catch it, he will however get caught shortly there after.
Slightly better ball placement would have resulted in a couple of those and some missed balls being TD's. Yes there is a difference, but he has more quicks than people give him credit for as well--avoiding one tackle is often more important that far down field than top end speed.
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Default Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

props to you KJ3, Walter's showing why Kubes was so high on him in the 1st place. I remember in previous threads folks were wondering why he wasn't doing more & he should be demoted to 3rd string b/c of it.

Dude has no problem getting open, no problem catching the ball. As far as i'm concerned, he's perfect as a possession WR. Schaub has just missed him 2 the tune of at least 3 TD's this season. It's probably the speed differential between him & the other WR's, but shcaub has to get better at that.
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Default Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

I despise the guy. Hate comes to mind. Burning anger.
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Default Re: Why some people don't like Kevin Walter

While AJ is certainly our offensive playmaker, Schaub has done a great job with the remaining WRs. I've always hoped that KW would step up as a possession receiver, as I know the Bengals wanted to keep him when we signed him as an RFA. While a lot of folks have lobbied to have JJ at #2, I don't think Kevin is going to give up his spot without a fight.

QB/WRs has been one of the few bright spots this season, along with Kris Brown's leg.
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Dude has no problem getting open, no problem catching the ball. As far as i'm concerned, he's perfect as a possession WR. Schaub has just missed him 2 the tune of at least 3 TD's this season. It's probably the speed differential between him & the other WR's, but shcaub has to get better at that.

I think his speed is the perception problem. He is a decent receiver, if he was faster (quicker?), he would be a real threat.
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And the funny thing is he catches balls deep with receptions this year of 39, 35 and 46 yds already.
Huh, huh, you said "balls deep" huh, huh.
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