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Old 10-15-2007   #41
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Yeah, yeah, another great post. Same thing as the rest of your stuff. BOO-Hoo it's all David's fault. Grow-up, he's gone.
Note: This is not about football. Why do you even come to this board? I seriously would like to know. It is very obvious that you are not a Texans' fan, but a David Carr fan. One has to seriously question your mental capacity (or your sexuality) since it is obvious that you cannot see that David Carr sucks. He is now a Carolina Panther, and the damn jabs that you continue to throw have gotten way more than old. Do yourself and everyone on this board a favor and log the **** out. Mods can we put this to a vote?
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We got our butts handed to us and niether Matt Schaub nor David Carr could have prevented that from happening. You can dance around the guys name all you want (leaving it to someone else to mention "David Carr" first) but there's not a single poster on this board who doesn't understand that your agenda is as much about knocking his replacement (and defending ol' DC after the fact) as it ever is about the Texans and the win/loss column.

There are a handful of posters still here who have been waiting for a truly bad Schaub game.The "Fresno Mafia" has moved on for the most part but there are still people who want to see the next guy fail because in their minds it makes the first guy look better.

You're one of them. It's hard to miss really.
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Yeah, yeah, another great post. Same thing as the rest of your stuff. BOO-Hoo it's all David's fault. Grow-up, he's gone.
I'm pretty sure that's was Hervoyel said... He's gone, however there are still a few Carr Pimps that really do want to see Schaub perform poorly. And for those so-called Texans fans, they are pathetic. Schaub is our guy. PERIOD!
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Schaub needs to protect the ball. He has a serious problem with that. Otherwise his game is excellant.

Zoolander is a joke. How did he hurt his back ? He's spineless.
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Yeah, yeah, another great post. Same thing as the rest of your stuff. BOO-Hoo it's all David's fault. Grow-up, he's gone.
You should click on my name to the left of this post and select "Find More Posts by Hervoyel". Then you would see that I've spent much of my time commenting on things like the problems with our running game and the sad state of affairs with our defense.

You might then compare that to your own posting history and the string of broken-record like posts that all dance around the one guy who isn't in the room anymore. You need to let go of the guy caddy. Sometimes despite how much we want it to work out we're just wrong about a player.
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Schaub needs to protect the ball. He has a serious problem with that. Otherwise his game is excellant.

Zoolander is a joke. How did he hurt his back ? He's spineless.
He does. There are definitely problems with some of the things Matt Schaub does. Kubiak will either work them out or he'll flush him and likely at the same time doom himself because he's tied his wagon to Matt Schaub just like he did to David Carr when he came here. You can get away with that so many times and then you'll be heading out the door with them.

Still, Matt Schaub looks better in his 6th game as the Texans starter than David Carr did in any game he played here.

Right now we're not playing very well. That can't be denied. We've on average looked a lot better this year than we did last year or at any time since 2002 (with two exceptions. Our running game was better in 2003-2004 and our defense was better in 2002).
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Schaub had some screw ups yesterday, that's for sure. But Schaub shown more natural talent for the QB position in five games than Carr did in five years.
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Schaub needs to protect the ball. He has a serious problem with that. Otherwise his game is excellant.
IMO the problem is blindside protection. Salaam and Pitts have been getting beat on a constant basis. It's hard to hold on to the ball when you're getting planted from the backside.

On the play the fumble for a TD occured, the camera came back and showed Salaam sitting on his butt from getting beat. That picture was a sign of defeat.
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Schaub had some screw ups yesterday, that's for sure. But Schaub shown more natural talent for the QB position in five games than Carr did in five years.
I agree and I can't even believe this a thread. I am starting to think that people as Texans fans will never be happy with what we have. When I see Schaub play it is on another level than what we have had before. Our running game has been non-existent and we have injuries everywhere but this guy stands in and take a beating at times while delivering passes. He has his head in the game and I rarely see bad sacks. I think the guy is playing like a vet despite having 7-8 starts in his career. I think we got lucky to get him.
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Actually if you get any inside info you will know that Schuab was pulled due to him being "dinged" as a Houston coach quoted after the game. You will hear more about this after his test results come back probably on Tuesday.
He was injured in the Falcons game. He was benched due to the game being out of reach, so why risk your franchise QB?

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"I think Sage needed the reps," Kubiak said. "Matt took some shots. He's a battler. He's in there playing his tail off. I didn't think it made very much sense to beat him up anymore. I felt the same way as I did about Ahman (Green)."
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caddy, you seem to revel in the fact when you think Schaub plays poorly, talking about a vendetta. No offense but are you David's Grandfather?
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Schaub did not have 100 missed tackles yesterday! That lil' midget ran right over (or under, depending on your perspective) our D! That was a problem.
3rd and 17 and no stop! was a problem
Bad officiating! was a problem
no touchdowns in the red zone was a problem!
Our TEAM lost, not Schaub!
And BTW CADDY, The only one that is "curious" is Carr and it is called "BI-Curious"
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I am not going to get involved in comparing Schaub to Carr because I really can't educate that kind of *****.

Schuabs fumble's are going to be addressed. And in the Miami and Jags game he was underthrowing receivers. Consider him a 2nd year QB and he has done well.
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Schaub vs. Carr is like comparing Ron Dayne to Adrian Peterson. Nuff said.

The way I view Schaub is like a rookie with a better feel for the offense. Remember, this is only his 8th start. My only issue with the guy is ball security and red zone efficiency. I have very little doubt he will rectify this over time, and the red zone problems are not in the least all on him.

Look at how well Schaub is doing without one of the best 4-5 WR's in the game, NO running game to speak of, and a journeyman LT and Center. Frankly, it AMAZING that the guy is playing as well as he is and putting up the stats he is. Imagine if Peterson had fallen a couple more spots, and AP was in our backfield. Having a dynamic threat at the tailback position would open up the passing game, and Schaub would be having a great yr, as would the offense in general. We are a very good RB and LT away from being a dynamic top 5 offense, including in scoring not just moving the ball between the 20's as we are doing now. I feel it, and I know it's coming within the next yr or two at most.

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We are a very good RB and LT away from being a dynamic top 5 offense, including in scoring not just moving the ball between the 20's as we are doing now. I feel it, and I know it's coming within the next yr or two at most.

Patience my friends, patience.
Exactly what I've been saying. We are about two to three players away from having a killer offense. The pieces are falling into place, but they ain't all there yet.
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Imagine if Peterson had fallen a couple more spots, and AP was in our backfield. Having a dynamic threat at the tailback position would open up the passing game, and Schaub would be having a great yr, as would the offense in general.

I've had this thought a couple of times this year and as much as I love the play of Amobi Akoye I can't ignore the fact that the way we play defense Earl Cochrane could not consistently pressure the QB just as easily as any of our other first rounders and for a lot less money.

Mind you, I think it's the scheme we're employing and not the talent level of the players (for the most part) but if Peterson had been there I'd rather have Peterson than Akoye. A good RB helps a defense by keeping them on the sidelines resting.

What's done is done though. I'd really love to see the Texans draft a monster back like Peterson though. I don't think this team has ever had what I'd consider a true franchise running back (Green I can't count of course because he did all his damage in Green Bay, we got the bones to pick over)
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Yeah, yeah, another great post. Same thing as the rest of your stuff. BOO-Hoo it's all David's fault. Grow-up, he's gone.
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Schaub vs. Carr is like comparing Ron Dayne to Adrian Peterson. Nuff said.

The way I view Schaub is like a rookie with a better feel for the offense. Remember, this is only his 8th start. My only issue with the guy is ball security and red zone efficiency. I have very little doubt he will rectify this over time, and the red zone problems are not in the least all on him.

Look at how well Schaub is doing without one of the best 4-5 WR's in the game, NO running game to speak of, and a journeyman LT and Center. Frankly, it AMAZING that the guy is playing as well as he is and putting up the stats he is. Imagine if Peterson had fallen a couple more spots, and AP was in our backfield. Having a dynamic threat at the tailback position would open up the passing game, and Schaub would be having a great yr, as would the offense in general. We are a very good RB and LT away from being a dynamic top 5 offense, including in scoring not just moving the ball between the 20's as we are doing now. I feel it, and I know it's coming within the next yr or two at most.

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A QB who plays well and doesn't hurt his team despite things not being perfect around him...

Who'd have ever thunk it...

If David Carr would have had that same game yesterday under those same circumstances, someone would need to wake you up becuase you'd be dreaming...
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This thread has drifted way off target. It is titled "Shaub/roseNfels" (I had to add the "N" and fix the random "L" but who's paying attention)
Anyone worth their salt in analyzing football knows that we have something special on our hands with "Big Bad Schaub" and I think we are Blessed to have Sage as a back up! That cat is awesome! God forbid anything happen to Matt, but if it did, we are in very capable hands
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