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Old 10-15-2007   #121
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You know what's funny...the fact that the Ref has to release a official statement on why he made the call.

I wonder when he is going to explain the headlock and delay of game and the other questionable calls since he's going to explain that one.

It may have been the right call, it seemed like it was...but its just odd that he has to officially release this to the press and explain why. I saw this on the Jaguar site last night too.
Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
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Everyone is saying that the Jags mopped up the field with us and were more physical and what not. But what do you expect when their drives were continued on penalties or bad calls. Our defense was on the field for, it seemed like, all of the 3rd quarter. Those "body punches"(grrr) from the Jags and REFS took their toll on our defense. Not many d's in this league can handle having the wind taken out of their sails that much.

Then, to put the icing on the cake, that takes away our ground game. Our team will not survive without being able to control the clock and rushing the football. There is no way to control the clock when the refs take the ball out of your hand.

Our confidence deteriorated with every bad call yesterday. Imagine how that feels. You prepare all week and work your tail off, to just go out and have the refs beat you down.
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Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
Yeah like I said, it may have been the right call, it seems that way I wasn't even sure of the rule. I just didn't like how it took 10 minutes for them to decide.

Its just odd because the ref releases a explanation to the local press on why he made the call. Why do that? Was he asked about the call or did he just felt like he needed to clear it up, if it is the latter that is a bit fishy don't you think?

Refs don't just go to the local press and say "Hey this is why we ruled this that way..."

Also, if he's going to explain that he can explain how they missed that delay of game and how did our DB get holding for being in a headlock.
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Refs don't just go to the local press and say "Hey this is why we ruled this that way..."
The ref didn't go to the press, it look's like the press went to him...for an explanation on the ruling.
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Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
I missed it...in the car...but Andre this morning was still saying they got it wrong because the replays show the guy didn't keep blocking but actually was disengaged and hit the guy....or something like that. Who knows with him.

I'm not a fan of most NFL refs and it is becoming absurd how many penalties are being called by guys halfway across the field when another linemen is right on top of the play and doesn't call a thing....i don't buy the better angle thing.
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Old 10-15-2007   #126
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I missed it...in the car...but Andre this morning was still saying they got it wrong because the replays show the guy didn't keep blocking but actually was disengaged and hit the guy....or something like that. Who knows with him.

I'm not a fan of most NFL refs and it is becoming absurd how many penalties are being called by guys halfway across the field when another linemen is right on top of the play and doesn't call a thing....i don't buy the better angle thing.
Again, if the contact is broken, then it is a penalty, however the replay I watched....... well......, let's just say our guy was thoroughly defeated.
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Again, if the contact is broken, then it is a penalty, however the replay I watched....... well......, let's just say our guy was thoroughly defeated.
Who was our guy that got bullied by a TE?
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Who was our guy that got bullied by a TE?
Didn't catch the name on the back of his jersey, because he was flat on his back in the end zone..
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Again, if the contact is broken, then it is a penalty, however the replay I watched....... well......, let's just say our guy was thoroughly defeated.
Thanks for explaining the play. It shows you what you get from 610. I just was in and out during game time.
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Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
The question is, under the "recent" (as in last few years) changes, isn't there a no-touch rule in place beyond 5 yards?

If the LB can't touch the TE beyond 5, wouldn't the reverse be true?
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The question is, under the "recent" (as in last few years) changes, isn't there a no-touch rule in place beyond 5 yards?

If the LB can't touch the TE beyond 5, wouldn't the reverse be true?
No... Not necessarily. First, rules are written to favor the offensive player and second, the contact was initiated at the line of scrimmage - not beyond 5 yards.
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8-58 vs. 3-28.
kind of like the Atlanta game we had 7-78 and they had 2-20, but they had different referees...both crews I-N-C-O-M-P-E-T-E-N-T
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Again, if the contact is broken, then it is a penalty, however the replay I watched....... well......, let's just say our guy was thoroughly defeated.
by that you mean H-E-L-D
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No doubt the refs didn't help one bit, but the jags took it to us today. We had many opportunities to seal the deal on the jags in the first half, but we just couldn't. A fumble by davis at the one yard line, an overthrown pass to KW in the endzone, fumbles by the jags in their own territory. We didn't execute and Jacksonville finally took advantage of it. In my opinion, Kubiak was completely outcoached today on all cylinders. Good ST play on the surprise onside kick, taking chances on 4th down and converting them, and taking advantage of the Texan's defensive weaknesses. I was as mad at the refs as the next guy, but it didn't affect the outcome.
Agree 100%. He admits it too, that is another thing that is great about him as a coach and person.
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by that you mean H-E-L-D
LMAO... no, what I meant was 'owned'!!
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I'm sure Kubiak has already had a conversation with the Official heads today, and it will be a major topic of discussion on his 610 radio show at 5:00. I'll be listening for sure.
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I'm sure Kubiak has already had a conversation with the Official heads today
I would love to have a conversation with the Official's heads.

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I'm with TexansLucky13 on this one. On that delay of game no-call, even the CBS team (whom I think really wanted the Jags to win) wer shocked that it wasn't called.
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My biggest gripe is letting the Jags get a play off about 5 seconds after the playclock reached zero. The other ones were judgement calls and those tend to even out over the course of the season. Hopefully, they are all out of their system by now.
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