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Old 10-10-2007   #1
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Default A little love for Andre

ESPN has a new piece up about game changers who force opposing teams to change their game plans. Andre didn't make the top 5, but he was the first one to miss the top 5.

1. Andre Johnson, WR, Texans
Scout: "He is a special, special guy and you'll see that more now that he is playing with a good quarterback who can get him the ball downfield."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ike&id=3056630

Not having Andre makes a big difference in our game regardless of the statistical production from the receivers without him.

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Andre will DEFINITELY make the top 5 once he's healthy again and he has a good body of games to look at with The Schaub tossing the rock his way.

The Schaub ==> The 'Dre connection makes my heart sing.
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ESPN has a new piece up about game changers who force opposing teams to change their game plans. Andre didn't make the top 5, but he was the first one to miss the top 5.

1. Andre Johnson, WR, Texans
Scout: "He is a special, special guy and you'll see that more now that he is playing with a good quarterback who can get him the ball downfield."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ike&id=3056630

Not having Andre makes a big difference in our game regardless of the statistical production from the receivers without him.

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Notice how he says "with a good quarterback" and not "with a good O-line".

Funny how the talking heads have forgotten how much they harped on our O-line before. Of course had they actually watched a Texans game in the past when Sage filled in, they'd have seen how a different QB made the O-line and everyone else look better. I watched the first game Carr took over in Carolina and the offense looked eerily like the Texans offense of old.
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Notice how he says "with a good quarterback" and not "with a good O-line".

Funny how the talking heads have forgotten how much they harped on our O-line before. Of course had they actually watched a Texans game in the past when Sage filled in, they'd have seen how a different QB made the O-line and everyone else look better. I watched the first game Carr took over in Carolina and the offense looked eerily like the Texans offense of old.
I noticed that.

I also noticed that VY was no where on either list.

Is the VY/ESPN honeymoon finally over?
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Default Re: A little love for Andre

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ESPN has a new piece up about game changers who force opposing teams to change their game plans. Andre didn't make the top 5, but he was the first one to miss the top 5.

1. Andre Johnson, WR, Texans
Scout: "He is a special, special guy and you'll see that more now that he is playing with a good quarterback who can get him the ball downfield."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ike&id=3056630

Not having Andre makes a big difference in our game regardless of the statistical production from the receivers without him.

Sorry if this has already been posted, please merge if so.

Man that is what I am saying. Throw out all those Stats, when Andre is in there the defense has to account for him, him and Owen Daniels are our only passing threats. Andre(Davis) is good, Walter is good, Jacoby is unproven, and none of those 3 are going to give CBs and Safeties nightmares Like Andre(Johnson) does.

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Default Re: A little love for Andre

If he was playing for a Media club like in New York or Washington, he'd be hands down considered the best WR in the game today. I use to post "young" in front of that. But after watching T.O's and Oucho cinco's latest offerings, I think we can now drop the "young". Just think MS and A.J. have only worked for six months together. The line gets a little better, it's going to be sweet indeed.
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Notice how he says "with a good quarterback" and not "with a good O-line".
Of course the Texans have a good quarterback now compared to before, but maybe they didn't say "with a good o-line" because it is mediocre at its best.
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Of course the Texans have a good quarterback now compared to before, but maybe they didn't say "with a good o-line" because it is mediocre at its best.
Good point, but I guess my point was that Schaub tends to make any deficiencies in the O-line a hell of a lot less noticeable than a certain other QB did.
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Default Andre Johnson gets some major respect!

A group of 11 NFL general mangers, coaches, scouts, etc made a list of the top 5 most scheme changing players. Guys you have to completely retool your defense around. AJ didn't make the list, but he was very close. Thats pretty cool.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ike&id=3056627

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Unwilling to face Peyton Manning on conventional terms, the Denver Broncos recently named both starting defensive tackles inactive, opting instead for a line featuring four defensive ends.

That is respect.

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On Tom Brady and the Patriots, an AFC scout says: "If you don't walk around on defense and disguise, you are going to get killed."

After watching Randy Moss average close to eight receptions per game this season, the Cleveland Browns enlisted everyone but Romeo Crennel to defend against him Sunday.

Moss finished the game with only three receptions for 46 yards, but no player beyond quarterback Tom Brady was more influential in New England's 34-17 victory.

"Moss has been killing people, and we didn't want him to kill us," Browns coach Romeo Crennel told reporters, "so we died by the hands of somebody else."

Manning passed for only 193 yards against the Broncos' tricked-out line, but the Colts finished with 226 yards rushing and 30 first downs in a 38-20 win.

The NFL's truly elite players don't need individual statistics to validate their impact. Their game-breaking ability compels opponents to change their schemes and their play calling. They force opponents out of their comfort zones well before the opening coin toss.

Asked to filter players using that strict criteria, an 11-man panel of NFL general managers, scouts, coaches and players produced five unanimous selections: Manning, Moss, Brady, Carolina receiver Steve Smith and San Diego tight end Antonio Gates. The panel's unvarnished evaluations, secured in exchange for anonymity, produced a nuanced set of classifications -- and a few surprises.

The List

LaDainian Tomlinson, universally regarded as the NFL's best running back, didn't make the short list of scheme-changers. Our league insiders -- two general managers, two pro scouts, two coordinators, two position coaches, two quarterbacks and one linebacker -- helped us understand why.

Three receivers -- Houston's Andre Johnson, Dallas' Terrell Owens and Cincinnati's Chad Johnson -- nearly made the list. No defensive linemen drew unanimous support, largely because Carolina's Julius Peppers has been strangely silent this season. The Colts' Dwight Freeney has zero sacks in 15 of his last 21 regular-season games, but he and Peppers still strike fear into opponents, panelists said.
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Is the VY/ESPN honeymoon finally over?
Nahh he'd have to get caught **** fighting or something... look how long the Vick honeymoon lasted

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If Rashean Mathis is on that list, Dunta should be too.
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If Rashean Mathis is on that list, Dunta should be too.
Mathis is better in coverage than Dunta...Dunta is a bigger hitter and a better blitzer...but we never send him anymore it seems.
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Andre will DEFINITELY make the top 5 once he's healthy again and he has a good body of games to look at with The Schaub tossing the rock his way.

The Schaub ==> The 'Dre connection makes my heart sing.


Its nice having a Real QB for a change the only thing we gave Schaub a free pass on was getting AJ killed on the pass play he got injured.
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