Biggest Draft Day Busts? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**texasguy346** · 05-27-2004

Hey everyone. I recently got to wondering about who is the biggest draft day bust? The name that kept popping into my head was Ryan Leaf. Geeze did that guy have a crushing fall from the podium in NY to rock bottom. What do you guys think? Doesn't just have to be a QB, it can be any position at all.

V Man · 05-27-2004

Charles Hill is #1

Seriously, I think you should make a All-NFL Bust team.

QB-Ryan Leaf
RB-Kajana Carter
OL-Tony Mandarich

V Man · 05-27-2004

To add some defensive players to the list.

Keith McCants- DL
Brian Bosworth- LB
Andy Katzenmoyer- LB

dmt217 · 05-27-2004

Akili Smith
RJ Soward

TheOgre · 05-27-2004

Andre Wadsworth
Ryan Lief (sp?)
Tony Mandarich
Desmond Howard
David Klingler
Andre Ware
KiJana Carter
Heath Shuler
Akili Smith
Steve Emtman

I could go on but that is enough.

J-Man · 05-27-2004

1. Todd Marinovich
2. Ryan Leaf
3. Tony Mandrich or Akili Smith
4. Desmond Howard
5. David Klingler

texans · 05-28-2004

the 3 bigest budst ever were
1.kijina carter
2.ryan leaf
3.akill smith

**edo783** · 05-28-2004

The biggest have to be:

Leaf
Mandrich

After these two losers, the others don't look near as bad. Not that they weren't busts, but on relative terms, they aren't as big of ones.

LiveForTheGame · 05-29-2004

I'm going to go ahead and say Eric Crouch was a bust...wasn't a high draft pick but the kid won the Heisman Trophy.

jags98 · 05-29-2004

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I'm going to go ahead and say Eric Crouch was a bust...wasn't a high draft pick but the kid won the Heisman Trophy.

I wouldnt really consider him a bust because everybody knew this kid couldnt be an NFL QB.

You do you think will be the biggest bust of this years draft??

D-ReK · 05-29-2004

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Originally Posted by jags98

\You do you think will be the biggest bust of this years draft??

i'm guessing one of the qb's...either manning, due to the pressure he put on himself to go to new york, rivers, due to his awkward delivery, or losman, due to his immaturity...i think roethlisberger will be the best out of that crop...

jags98 · 05-29-2004

I agree.. I think Roelishberger will be a stud...He kinda reminds me of Leftwich

. I think Rivers will be an excellent QB, but i agree i think Losman immaturity will hurt him but he has an excellent arm. I hope Eli fails for be a lil baby and show his immaturity( but daddy i dont wanna be a charger :hehe: ).

Frailty · 05-29-2004

Rivers, mechanics suck. I just dont think you can correct them the way they should be.....
I think many of the dlineman in this years draft will be busts, but you gotta give dlineman atleast a year or two to decide, some of the ones from last year got something to prove....

LiveForTheGame · 05-29-2004

Roethlisberger never played against any solid teams. It's hard to judge how good he is when for the conference championship they played against bowling green. Rivers does have a low delivery, but he completed a godlypercentage of his passes and he's 6'5. I watched a lot of his games last season and I don't remember a single pass being knocked down. His Senior Bowl performance was unreal. In my mind Manning had a right to not want to go to the Chargers. I'd do the same thing if my career was on the line. Let's not forget about all the great players in football and other sports that pouted and didn't want to go to a certain team.

HoustonTexansAreTheBest · 05-30-2004

I looked at everyone's list of busts, and I'm going to stick up for two of them. The first one being Desmond Howard, Howard may have never panned out as WR, but he's good return man. So that's no bust in my book.

Andy Katz. That kid got hit with injuries, and probably could've really done well on anther team. He never got the chance in NE.

kbourda · 05-30-2004

How about adding Aundray Bruce to that list. As well as Rick Mirer. And how about the fan fav Lawrence Phillips (lol).

HoustonTexansAreTheBest · 05-31-2004

Curtis Enis, was drafted with the 4th pick by the Chicago Bears, let's see 98 or 99. I watched the draft. He was suppose to be real good, but after a yr or two. You never heard from him again. He retired at the age of 24 I think. I wouldn't call him a bust, he just never really played.

D-ReK · 05-31-2004

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Originally Posted by HoustonTexansAreTheBest

Curtis Enis, was drafted with the 4th pick by the Chicago Bears, let's see 98 or 99. I watched the draft. He was suppose to be real good, but after a yr or two. You never heard from him again. He retired at the age of 24 I think. I wouldn't call him a bust, he just never really played.

i would think if you were drafted with the 4th pick, you would play...if you're drafted that high and don't get into a game, you're the definition of a bust...

HoustonTexansAreTheBest · 05-31-2004

Some early picks sit on the bench for a year, so they can learn a little before they play.

D-ReK · 05-31-2004

true, but that's generally not the case with backs...his stats were decent for his first two years, but players drafted in the top 5 are expected to be great players for many years, not servicible players for two years...

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V Man Pumpkinhead Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alamo City Age: 45 Posts: 2,586 Rep Power: 18	Charles Hill is #1 Seriously, I think you should make a All-NFL Bust team. QB-Ryan Leaf RB-Kajana Carter OL-Tony Mandarich __________________ sig by michaelm

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V Man Pumpkinhead Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alamo City Age: 45 Posts: 2,586 Rep Power: 18	To add some defensive players to the list. Keith McCants- DL Brian Bosworth- LB Andy Katzenmoyer- LB __________________ sig by michaelm

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J-Man Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft Hood, Tx Age: 37 Posts: 402 Rep Power: 9	1. Todd Marinovich 2. Ryan Leaf 3. Tony Mandrich or Akili Smith 4. Desmond Howard 5. David Klingler __________________ Who's the Man?... J-Man, that's WHO! Eat 'em Up, KATS!

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edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	The biggest have to be: Leaf Mandrich After these two losers, the others don't look near as bad. Not that they weren't busts, but on relative terms, they aren't as big of ones. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

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HoustonTexansAreTheBest Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 10	I looked at everyone's list of busts, and I'm going to stick up for two of them. The first one being Desmond Howard, Howard may have never panned out as WR, but he's good return man. So that's no bust in my book. Andy Katz. That kid got hit with injuries, and probably could've really done well on anther team. He never got the chance in NE. __________________ Kerry/Edwards 2004 "Hope Is On the Way"-John Edwards

05-27-2004	#1
texasguy346 Mod Squad Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deer Park, TX Age: 30 Posts: 7,066 Rep Power: 2881	Biggest Draft Day Busts? Hey everyone. I recently got to wondering about who is the biggest draft day bust? The name that kept popping into my head was Ryan Leaf. Geeze did that guy have a crushing fall from the podium in NY to rock bottom. What do you guys think? Doesn't just have to be a QB, it can be any position at all.

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dmt217 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 174 Rep Power: 10	Akili Smith RJ Soward

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TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Andre Wadsworth Ryan Lief (sp?) Tony Mandarich Desmond Howard David Klingler Andre Ware KiJana Carter Heath Shuler Akili Smith Steve Emtman I could go on but that is enough.

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texans Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	the 3 bigest budst ever were 1.kijina carter 2.ryan leaf 3.akill smith

05-29-2004	#9
LiveForTheGame Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston Age: 25 Posts: 311 Rep Power: 0	I'm going to go ahead and say Eric Crouch was a bust...wasn't a high draft pick but the kid won the Heisman Trophy.

05-29-2004	#12
jags98 Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 197 Rep Power: 0	I agree.. I think Roelishberger will be a stud...He kinda reminds me of Leftwich . I think Rivers will be an excellent QB, but i agree i think Losman immaturity will hurt him but he has an excellent arm. I hope Eli fails for be a lil baby and show his immaturity( but daddy i dont wanna be a charger :hehe: ).

05-29-2004	#13
Frailty Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Age: 26 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Rivers, mechanics suck. I just dont think you can correct them the way they should be..... I think many of the dlineman in this years draft will be busts, but you gotta give dlineman atleast a year or two to decide, some of the ones from last year got something to prove....

05-30-2004	#16
kbourda Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 42 Posts: 1,418 Rep Power: 33	How about adding Aundray Bruce to that list. As well as Rick Mirer. And how about the fan fav Lawrence Phillips (lol).

05-31-2004	#17
HoustonTexansAreTheBest Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 10	Curtis Enis, was drafted with the 4th pick by the Chicago Bears, let's see 98 or 99. I watched the draft. He was suppose to be real good, but after a yr or two. You never heard from him again. He retired at the age of 24 I think. I wouldn't call him a bust, he just never really played. __________________ Kerry/Edwards 2004 "Hope Is On the Way"-John Edwards

05-31-2004	#20
D-ReK RAWWWRR! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Avalon Age: 28 Posts: 3,406 Rep Power: 684	true, but that's generally not the case with backs...his stats were decent for his first two years, but players drafted in the top 5 are expected to be great players for many years, not servicible players for two years...

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