YouTube - TJ and Green

[powerfuldragon]

Originally Posted by rmartin65

Regardless of the hit, you do not point at a guy hurt or not moving on the ground. Thats just low

personally, i'd yell at a guy who'd just nearly killed me.

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

No doubt! I'm talking blindside slobber knocker.

yup. he had to reorient himself after that one.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by The1ApplePie

Shouldn't TJ being a bust get him some kind of excuse? Kind of like a mentally challenged person getting a lesser jail sentence?

I just think this should be said again and again until the NFL decides to pass a rule protecting those that don't pan out. I think they should call it "TJ's Rule".

If Travis doesn't want to be so-honored they could call it "Reggie's Rule" instead and it would mean the same thing.

[Andrew6]

I know everyones wrapped up in how is Trent Green but how is TJ? Last I heard he had to have an MRI. Did the results come back clean?

[Texan_Bill]

I am ONLY worried about TJ, and yes I would be curious about the results of his MRI too.... Anybody???

[powerfuldragon]

Originally Posted by Andrew6

I know everyones wrapped up in how is Trent Green but how is TJ? Last I heard he had to have an MRI. Did the results come back clean?

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

I am ONLY worried about TJ, and yes I would be curious about the results of his MRI too.... Anybody???

i dunno how reliable this website is, but it says:

An MRI on Travis Johnson's knee came back negative Monday.
Johnson reportedly heard some clicking after taking Trent Green's helmet to the knee Sunday. Coach Gary Kubiak reportedly spoke to the league Monday about Green's block, but was told that it was legal.

[Texan_Bill]

Thanks Dragon... I think Rotoworld is okay, maybe not the be-all, end-all but decent enough..

[Andrew6]

Originally Posted by powerfuldragon

i dunno how reliable this website is, but it says:

appreciate

[White Runningback]

If the block is legit, you must acquit.

[Dread-Head]

Miami fumbled and while Johnson and the rest of the Texans defense were scrambling for the ball Green tried to chop block him and GAVE HIMSELF a concussion. He brought it on himself. If I were Johnson I would have stood over him and laughed because his STUPID attempt to put a head to my knee had failed. Green gets taken out early in the season with a concussion...what year is it again? Deja-freakin' vu. You're a QB you don't take cheap shots. Suck it up and take your concussion like a man Green because it's your own doing.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head-001

Miami fumbled and while Johnson and the rest of the Texans defense were scrambling for the ball Green tried to chop block him and GAVE HIMSELF a concussion. He brought it on himself. If I were Johnson I would have stood over him and laughed because his STUPID attempt to put a head to my knee had failed. Green gets taken out early in the season with a concussion...what year is it again? Deja-freakin' vu. You're a QB you don't take cheap shots. Suck it up and take your concussion like a man Green because it's your own doing.

QFT (Except for the laughing part - I would have been too PO'd to laugh)

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by rmartin65

Regardless of the hit, you do not point at a guy hurt or not moving on the ground. Thats just low

If you're a QB or a lowly kicker, you don't take cheap shots...PERIOD. If you do and seriously #uck YOURSELF up in the process then you have no one to blame but yourself. If I land on my head because your helmet hit me in the knee and my knee helped you to give YOURSELF a concussion... "F" you buddy. You brought it on yourself. Not only would I taunt you, I would make it my mission the next time my team faced you to treat you as if you'd just burned my house to the ground, slapped my mother and slept with my wife....then I might get mad.

[powerfuldragon]

i'm convinced that if trent green hadn't been concussed on that play, and continued to play in the game, our d-line would have ordered a yak yak fatwa on him.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by powerfuldragon

i'm convinced that if trent green hadn't been concussed on that play, and continued to play in the game, our d-line would have ordered a yak yak fatwa on him.

Most def...Baby it would have SO...been Peanut Butter Jelly Time!

[rmartin65]

[quote=powerfuldragon;756134]personally, i'd yell at a guy who'd just nearly killed me.

[quote]

It was a legal block. I hope that both players are okay, but I still think that taunting an injured player while he lays motionless on the ground after a legal hit is wrong.

[Double Barrel]

It was 'legal' on that particular play, but the same block would have been illegal in other situations. The NFL needs to clarify the discrepancy in the off-season.

TJ is a professional and should have controlled his emotions. Period.

But Green's injury is 100% his own fault.

[Hervoyel]

[quote=rmartin65;756572][quote=powerfuldragon;756134]personally, i'd yell at a guy who'd just nearly killed me.

It was a legal block. I hope that both players are okay, but I still think that taunting an injured player while he lays motionless on the ground after a legal hit is wrong.

Yes it is wrong and if Travis Johnson had done that I'd join you in roundly condemning him. He didn't "taunt" Trent Green (nor did he "stand over him" as it appears in some of the slow-mo versions of the play).

TJ got up and gave the guy who hit him a piece of his mind (it's open for debate whether TJ could spare that piece or not) and when he saw that Green wasn't getting up and may have been seriously injured he headed for the Texans bench.

Don't fall for the spin on this one people.

[Texan_Bill]

[quote=Hervoyel;756627][quote=rmartin65;756572]

Originally Posted by powerfuldragon

personally, i'd yell at a guy who'd just nearly killed me.



Yes it is wrong and if Travis Johnson had done that I'd join you in roundly condemning him. He didn't "taunt" Trent Green (nor did he "stand over him" as it appears in some of the slow-mo versions of the play).

TJ got up and gave the guy who hit him a piece of his mind (it's open for debate whether TJ could spare that piece or not) and when he saw that Green wasn't getting up and may have been seriously injured he headed for the Texans bench.

Don't fall for the spin on this one people.

I don't!! Not for one second.

[Hervoyel]

People keep debating the legality of the block but I think it's finally coming to the top that the block itself was a legal thing.

A point everybody should consider is how many former coaches and players are starting to take up Travis Johnsons defense. Yes, when Green was down TJ was the big-bad classless buffoon who needed to be banned for life. He was the "worst person in the NFL" while everyone was worried about Trent Green (and rightfully so because that was a heck of a lick he took).

Once Green was obviously out of danger look how many people started talking about Johnson having a point.

No, not everyone agreed and what's interesting is that even some of the people who think Johnson was right to be mad have agreed that it's a legal block.

What this tells me is that the people who play in the NFL and know NFL football are not entirely in agreement about this kind of block. There is considerable sentiment it seems for making this an illegal block. I think that means something right there.

There are things you can do that are technically within the rules but that people who consider themselves "above board" do not do, or at least try to avoid doing. This is one of those things.

[Texan_Bill]

True it is legal... But, 37 year old quarterbacks who ARE very sensitive about blows to the knees should know better. PERIOD.

The seriousness of the potential knee injury could have been every bit as devastating as a wide received coming into the middle of the field to chop block a linebacker. One is legal, one is illegal... BOTH are unethical and a veteran professional quarterback should know better.

Anyone who says that Green couldn't have hit 'em in the chest because he is too small just doesn't know football... A 180 pound kicker took take Travis Johnson out in that situation where Johnson wasn't looking...



YES, I am very sensitive to knee injuries and for good freakin' reason!!!

[threetoedpete]

Originally Posted by rollinstone18

Exactly, I don't understand why the people calling Travis classless don't take that into consideration.

Because T.J. is the very large bipolar guy mocking the poor little QB .And alberts and everyone else is too stupid to see the play for what it was. The little QB guy cheap shoting the big African american guy. I do not believe TJ was mocking him. And I do not believe Spencer Tillman's ludicrus take either. Trent Green doesn't practice blocking a lot so there for it was an accident. My Take: Trent Green saw an excellent oportunity to yuck it up with the boyz monday morning during the film sesion. He K.O.'s T.J. and endears himslef to the team and he automatically becomes their team leader. And instead what he got was a one way buss ticket home. This was nothing but karma at work. I don't have a problem with T.J. losing it a bit and telling him in his on words what a jerk he was tring to end his career. And is always is the case with the officials, the second guy to react pays the price. He has paid the price for the post game interveiw. I'm sure walking in front of the media and belittling himself with a retraction to satisfy the owner and coach was punishment enough.