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Old 10-07-2007   #161
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I think the report shows a spin in favor of Green. It states that Johnson kicked Green in the head, and then later accused Green of a low block.

While he did end up getting kicked in the head, Green did throw a low block. The article sounds incindiary, in my opinion.
I don't think it's out of line to spin the article in favor of the player that had to be carted off the field on a stretcher.
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I would play if Olberman has to use a semiautomatic!!!
I can understand people being pissed at TJ in a way, but NOBODY is mentioning that Greens block was not only CHEAP, BUT ILLEGAL!!!
Exactly. Everyone seems to be ignoring the lack of class on Green's part. Its easy to attack TJ, but they are ignoring what Green did.
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Why not offsetting penalties?
Exactly, what a BS flag!
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i must admit i lol'ed at that last one eventhough it was soooo wrong
I wont lie, I laughed too
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its amazing to hear so many people defend johnson even after his comments. i know football is very important in texas but i didnt know it was more improtant than your dignity to a few of you.

fans like that dont care what or who it takes to win as long as you win. thats why the T.O. jersey is such a high seller.
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I don't think it's out of line to spin the article in favor of the player that had to be carted off the field on a stretcher.
Even if it demonizes a player who did nothing wrong (outside of the taunting)? The article makes it sound like TJ maliciously hit Green in the head with his knee, as if Green was defenseless. No mention of the block, much less the fact that it was a cheap, dangerous one.
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There might be a "change of possession" clause on a fumble, but I don't know for sure...
I read this rule once before and don't remember it being based on change of possesion. The spirit of the rule was that after a fumble, INT, etc. there are so many players going so many different directions that a block below the waist would be likely to cause career ending injuries. I DO believe it was put in place to protect QB's(what else is new? and isn't THAT ironic?) from having their knees blown out by a D player looking to get a cheap hit on the QB after a turnover.
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I don't think it's out of line to spin the article in favor of the player that had to be carted off the field on a stretcher.
Well seeing as Trent Green caused himself to be carted off, it's unfair to imply that Johnson was at fault. The only thing Johnson has done is let his anger get the best of him and act extremely immature. He has a right to be angry for the block, but at some point he needs to chill out and not say things like Green got hurt because "God don't like ugly."
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its amazing to hear so many people defend johnson even after his comments. i know football is very important in texas but i didnt know it was more improtant than your dignity to a few of you.

fans like that dont care what or who it takes to win as long as you win. thats why the T.O. jersey is such a high seller.
So, I just have to ask, if TJ HAD been seriously hurt by Green's cheap shot, then what would the reaction be?
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I thought EVERYONE knew that the AP was OWNED by MOVEON.ORG who, by the way, have NEVER, I mean NEVER let the facts come in the way of a good smear campaign.
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LMAO - wow... there's some intelligence... good argument... solid facts you got there.
man about 1 third of your posts have come tonight dogging tj- get over it.. he (and alot of us other mere humans) obviously aren't as virtuous as you and occassional lose our tempers when provoked..

whats that k west song again: 'there'll always be haters, thats just the way it is..'
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So you mean he'd still deliver the cheap shot AND taunt Travis?

It's a matter of what led Travis to "taunting". A CHEAP SHOT TO THE KNEES.
ok here you go if green gets cheap shotted which it wasnt, and that player gets hurt and then goes taunts him yes i still am saying somthing.

do you people really think that green says to himself i am going to throw my helmet into his knee, i should be fine and hopefully his knee gets blown out in the process. since it was a cheap shot why no flag, the refs dont know hes hurt at the time of the block.
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man about 1 third of your posts have come tonight dogging tj- get over it.. he (and alot of us other mere humans) obviously aren't as virtuous as you and occassional lose our tempers when provoked..

whats that k west song again: 'there'll always be haters, thats just the way it is..'
I dogged his action (the taunt) and his comments after the game... the taunt I can understand being upset about... his comments are plain stupid...

apparently some of the Texans fans like the stupidity...
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Well seeing as Trent Green caused himself to be carted off, it's unfair to imply that Johnson was at fault. The only thing Johnson has done is let his anger get the best of him and act extremely immature. He has a right to be angry for the block, but at some point he needs to chill out and not say things like Green got hurt because "God don't like ugly."
I agree.
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So, I just have to ask, if TJ HAD been seriously hurt by Green's cheap shot, then what would the reaction be?
the exact same reation as the play would have got if johnson had not have said anything, no reaction.

here is the truth it was not a cheap shot (illegal) just because he didnt like the hit doesnt make it illegal.

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I dogged his action (the taunt) and his comments after the game... the taunt I can understand being upset about... his comments are plain stupid...

apparently some of the Texans fans like the stupidity...
Almost as stupid as you saying Gary Kubiak agreed with you.

"Hey guys, Gary Kubiak agreed with me! So I must be right and you all are wrong! Ahahaha!".

No dude.
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Almost as stupid as you saying Gary Kubiak agreed with you.

"Hey guys, Gary Kubiak agreed with me! So I must be right and you all are wrong! Ahahaha!".

No dude.
Listen to his presser - he says what I've been trying to tell some of you.

So... yes dude...

Need me to explain what a presser is for you as well?
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its amazing to hear so many people defend johnson even after his comments. i know football is very important in texas but i didnt know it was more improtant than your dignity to a few of you.

fans like that dont care what or who it takes to win as long as you win. thats why the T.O. jersey is such a high seller.

whatever rook, you're 1 of about 3 people dogging tj- everbody else realises hes human and was provoked

and btw cheap shot isnt = illegal
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the exact same reation as the play would have got if johnson had not have said anything, no reaction.

here is the truth it was not a cheap shot (illegal) just because he didnt like the hit doesnt make it illegal.
Whatever. It might not have been "illegal", but any time you go for a player by hitting them below the knees, it's still a cheap shot. I was there, I saw it, everyone around me saw it, and we all agreed that it was a BS shot.

And I disagree that if TJ had been hurt by what Green did that there would be no reaction. And I stand by my opinon that Green should be fined, concussion or not.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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ok here you go if green gets cheap shotted which it wasnt, and that player gets hurt and then goes taunts him yes i still am saying somthing.

do you people really think that green says to himself i am going to throw my helmet into his knee, i should be fine and hopefully his knee gets blown out in the process. since it was a cheap shot why no flag, the refs dont know hes hurt at the time of the block.
Whether Green's intent was to land a cheap shot or not is irrelevant. The fact is he DID land a cheap shot. It's not just Texans fans on a message board who think so. Tiki Barber and Chris Collinsworth, two offensive players mind you, said it was a cheap shot and I'm sure many more NFL players would agree.
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