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Old 10-07-2007   #61
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Yelling at someone in anger is not tuanting, it's called being pissed off. Posing and having a "me" moment on someone's logo is taunting.

Believe it or not, we live in a "grey" world. Not everything is black and white and clear cut............there was ALOT of grey areas involved in this play. Until someone cut blocks you and you land on your head, I don't think your in position to judge.
LMAO - So apparently you didn't see the replay... he didn't 'yell' at someone... he got up... walked over to a guy on the ground... pointed at him, kind of jumped a few times, and yelled at him for a good while... that's taunting... especially if we could hear what he probably said.

EASY taunting call... again, not calling him dirty, or classless or anything... just stupid for letting his emotions get the better of himself...

but who am I to judge just someone who knows an easy taunting call when he sees one.
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i've got no problem with what johnson did. green went in low and hit johnson directly in the knee, that alone would draw words, and johnson's acrobatics because of the cheap block would send any defender into a frenzy. this is football, there are 22 players on the field talking crap to eachother at all times, it sounds like some of yall would prefer figure skating and a round of kumbaya after each play. THIS time there happened to be a serious (although self inflicted) injury involved. if green had gotten up, johnson would've said the exact same thing and they would've jawed for a minute and no penalty would've come.

johnson had every right to be ticked off, and has every right to remain so ... green's decision to go after johnson's knees was very dangerous for both players.

and for those saying "well i knew right away that he was seriously hurt" ... congrats, we now know that you werent mid-summersault in football pads when it happened. i know the ball's in the air before cornerbacks turn to locate it, do i get a cookie?
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LMAO - So apparently you didn't see the replay... he didn't 'yell' at someone... he got up... walked over to a guy on the ground... pointed at him, kind of jumped a few times, and yelled at him for a good while... that's taunting... especially if we could hear what he probably said.

EASY taunting call... again, not calling him dirty, or classless or anything... just stupid for letting his emotions get the better of himself...

but who am I to judge just someone who knows an easy taunting call when he sees one.
If you want to give the sensationalized version I guess that's what happened.
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LMAO - So apparently you didn't see the replay... he didn't 'yell' at someone... he got up... walked over to a guy on the ground... pointed at him, kind of jumped a few times, and yelled at him for a good while... that's taunting... especially if we could hear what he probably said.

EASY taunting call... again, not calling him dirty, or classless or anything... just stupid for letting his emotions get the better of himself...

but who am I to judge just someone who knows an easy taunting call when he sees one.

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and for those saying "well i knew right away that he was seriously hurt" ... congrats, we now know that you werent mid-summersault in football pads when it happened. i know the ball's in the air before cornerbacks turn to locate it, do i get a cookie?
So you don't think TJ knew he was laying on the ground not moving the entire time he walked up to him and was yelling at him... I thought our Corners were smarter than that lol...

ok I'm done... I'm going back to my regular message board...

for those of you who agree with what he did then good for you... glad ya'll would have done the same and gotten a crucial penalty that lead to an opponent TD.
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i've got no problem with what johnson did. green went in low and hit johnson directly in the knee, that alone would draw words, and johnson's acrobatics because of the cheap block would send any defender into a frenzy. this is football, there are 22 players on the field talking crap to eachother at all times, it sounds like some of yall would prefer figure skating and a round of kumbaya after each play. THIS time there happened to be a serious (although self inflicted) injury involved. if green had gotten up, johnson would've said the exact same thing and they would've jawed for a minute and no penalty would've come.

johnson had every right to be ticked off, and has every right to remain so ... green's decision to go after johnson's knees was very dangerous for both players.

and for those saying "well i knew right away that he was seriously hurt" ... congrats, we now know that you werent mid-summersault in football pads when it happened. i know the ball's in the air before cornerbacks turn to locate it, do i get a cookie?

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LMAO - So apparently you didn't see the replay... he didn't 'yell' at someone... he got up... walked over to a guy on the ground... pointed at him, kind of jumped a few times, and yelled at him for a good while... that's taunting... especially if we could hear what he probably said.

EASY taunting call... again, not calling him dirty, or classless or anything... just stupid for letting his emotions get the better of himself...

but who am I to judge just someone who knows an easy taunting call when he sees one.
i counted 2 seconds from the time TJ started talking until he was past green, and he never stopped walking. you're exaggerating to try to defend your point.
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LMAO - So apparently you didn't see the replay... he didn't 'yell' at someone... he got up... walked over to a guy on the ground... pointed at him, kind of jumped a few times, and yelled at him for a good while... that's taunting... especially if we could hear what he probably said.

EASY taunting call... again, not calling him dirty, or classless or anything... just stupid for letting his emotions get the better of himself...

but who am I to judge just someone who knows an easy taunting call when he sees one.
A good while? I just timed the clip on NFL.com. Total time elapsed from the point where Travis got up after getting that chop block from Green and the point where he walked AWAY from Green after the 'taunt' was barely three seconds in real time.

Some of you guys make me laugh sometimes.
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ESPN is spinning it again...here's ALSO what Travis said during the post-game presser.

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(opening statement) “I apologize for going off like that. We d-linemen, when you have someone going at your knees, it’s kind of tough. But at the same time, I shouldn’t have reacted like that. The penalty ended up leading to a score, so really I hurt my team. I shouldn’t have let my anger get to me, so I apologize to coach Kubiak, because I hurt my team. Really, I should have kept my cool. Being in that type of situation, this is a game of controlled violence, and I really I let my anger get the best of me.”
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(opening statement) “I apologize for going off like that. We d-linemen, when you have someone going at your knees, it’s kind of tough. But at the same time, I shouldn’t have reacted like that. The penalty ended up leading to a score, so really I hurt my team. I shouldn’t have let my anger get to me, so I apologize to coach Kubiak, because I hurt my team. Really, I should have kept my cool. Being in that type of situation, this is a game of controlled violence, and I really I let my anger get the best of me.”
that's a real good statement from him. he's still ticked off about what happened, but he seems really remorseful for drawing the penalty that hurt the team, and that's very upstanding to me.
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ESPN is spinning it again...here's ALSO what Travis said during the post-game presser.
WOW Classless.

I'm glad to see how our team shows class by calling themselves out when they make mistakes. It is great how that apology quote doesn't get as much press as the "that was a vicious hit quote"

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A good while? I just timed the clip on NFL.com. Total time elapsed from the point where Travis got up after getting that chop block from Green and the point where he walked AWAY from Green after the 'taunt' was barely three seconds in real time.

Some of you guys make me laugh sometimes.
it wasnt a chop it was a cut. one is legal one is not.

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you guys ever seen a running back pick up a blitzer low and the guy flips. pretty much the exact same play green made. totally legal and happens all the time. i really dont think you guys have watched much football.
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WOW Classless.

I'm glad to see how our team shows class by calling themselves out when they make mistakes. It is great how that apology quote doesn't get as much press as the "that was a vicious hit quote"

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It really is sad how ESPN tries to spin stories, sometimes they go too far (MICHAEL VICK TOWN MEETING!!!!!)

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that's a real good statement from him. he's still ticked off about what happened, but he seems really remorseful for drawing the penalty that hurt the team, and that's very upstanding to me.
I think he apologized the best he could. I mean he can't say sorry for hurting Trent, because Trent did it to himself. The only thing he can apologize for is the taunting, and he could say he's sorry about the condition that Trent is in.

In the ESPN article he said his knee still hurts. As long as his knee still hurts, he's going to be mad about it.
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it wasnt a chop it was a cut. one is legal one is not.

do you ever go to ftp. cause i have some of your chips if you do (play money of course).
Okay. I thought a chop block was also called a cut block which is what I understood the articles that you had posted to lead it to mean. If I was incorrect on that then I just misunderstood it.

What? I didn't understand your ftp comment at all. I'm inclined to think that you're now on the attack for some reason. I thought we were conversing just fine? What happened?
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you guys ever seen a running back pick up a blitzer low and the guy flips. pretty much the exact same play green made. totally legal and happens all the time. i really dont think you guys have watched much football.
Yes but they hit above the knee, Do they come flying at your Knee?

RBs Always do this to Mario(And IT WORKS unfortunately, Mario has to beat those.) but he never flips. The RBs that do this hit the thigh not the Knee. Even so DE and DTs don't go flying like TJ did. They either just fall forward or kind of swept off their feet.
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Okay. I thought a chop block was also called a cut block which is what I understood the articles that you had posted to lead it to mean. If I was incorrect on that then I just misunderstood it.

What? I didn't understand your ftp comment at all. I'm inclined to think that you're now on the attack for some reason. I thought we were conversing just fine? What happened?
no not on the attack. just saw someone with your name at a diff site.
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Yes but they hit above the knee, Do they come flying at your Knee?

RBs Always do this to Mario(And IT WORKS unfortunately, Mario has to beat those.) but he never flips. The RBs that do this hit the thigh not the Knee. Even so DE and DTs don't go flying like TJ did. They either just fall forward or kind of swept off their feet.
no they go low. and im not talking about the lineman like what they do to mario. im talking about running backs and often the guy flying through the middle flips in the air.

alright im through with this thread. some people apparantly think what tj did is fine. big win for our team, we need this one.
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Had to come back because I saw Gary's presser... interesting that he said that Travis was absolutely wrong... what he did was inexcusable and he let his team down... hmmmm sounds like I was right

BUT... he also said that Travis apologized to the team, Gary, the official and the Miami players... which shows a lot of maturity...
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ESPN is spinning it again...here's ALSO what Travis said during the post-game presser.
Yeah - from where I was standing it looked like after getting ripped by his coach and realizing he made a mistake Travis went over to the Miami players as Trent was being taken off and looked like he went over to apologize... which was pretty big of him IMO... which is why I don't think he is classless as others have said... just think he made a mistake in losing his temper... which luckily did not cost us the game.
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