Travis Johnson and Trent Green

[utahmark]

totally classless individual. enough said....

[YoungTexanFan]

?? care to fill me in?

[vtech9]

Originally Posted by markbeth

totally classless individual. enough said....

absolutely agree

[Leahmic223]

I disagree.

He taunted right after the hit, I don't think he knew how serious it was until a few moments later. Was he still taunting then I am not sure.

But you have to understand where he's coming from...with his body type he is pretty injury prone, he was lucky he didn't end out of that with a injury himself with the injuries he's had.

But I don't think he knew how serious it was, in the heat of the moment he knew he was just hit on the knee or below it and that makes any lineman pissed. He looked concerned though when he realized what happened, at least in my opinion he did.

[grinch1134]

he was just talking crap to someone that clipped him, I don't think he even realized the injury was serious

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by Leahmic223

I disagree.

He taunted right after the hit, I don't think he knew how serious it was until a few moments later. Was he still taunting then I am not sure.

But you have to understand where he's coming from...with his body type he is pretty injury prone, he was lucky he didn't end out of that with a injury himself with the injuries he's had.

But I don't think he knew how serious it was, in the heat of the moment he knew he was just hit on the knee or below it and that makes any lineman pissed. He looked concerned though when he realized what happened, at least in my opinion he did.

You don't taunt someone period in football... you especially don't taunt someone who is laying on the ground and not moving... I understand it was the heat of the moment and he was fired up because Green went for his legs... but he's a big boy and should be able to control his emotinos and not act like a 2 year old...

I was glad to see he got ripped a new one... also happy to see him go out there as they were wheeling Green off...

but the taunting was uncalled for and classless. Not saying TJ is because I don't know the guy... but that move was.

[Brandon420tx]

I don't think it was a taunt, I think TJ was just pissed about the low hit on his knee and didn't know Green was hurt untill he was pulled away.

[YoungTexanFan]

I take it TJ = Travis Johnson, and the play in question is the scramble by Ginn where Green ended with a concussion. I take it TJ taunted him? It's not classless unless he taunted Green after he was down.

[mexican_texan]

I don't think he was taunting, I think he was just pissed at Green for going low.

[Leahmic223]

Originally Posted by grinch1134

he was just talking crap to someone that clipped him, I don't think he even realized the injury was serious

Yeah that's the way I saw it. I didn't even know the injury was that serious until 4-5 mintues later. In the heat of battle I think most guys would be pissed. Green could have easily hit his knee the wrong way and could have torn one of his ligments. Then after the hit...Travis did a COMPLETE FLIP...how many times have you seen Travis do this manuever in the air?

I don't think he was aware that his knee may have ended a man's career and how serious it was. I think he was just pissed in the heat of battle because that was dangerous block on both sides.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by mexican_texan

I don't think he was taunting, I think he was just pissed at Green for going low.

If you're pissed yell at your buddies... yell at the sky... yell at the ground... don't walk up to the guy on the ground who is not moving and yell at him... he might not have 'meant' to taunt... but it was an easy call.

And to me it was obvious Green was hurt... I figured he had a concussion just cus that's his MO.... I don't want to get on the guy too much, but it was a stupid move.

[Leahmic223]

Originally Posted by jaybird

You don't taunt someone period in football... you especially don't taunt someone who is laying on the ground and not moving... I understand it was the heat of the moment and he was fired up because Green went for his legs... but he's a big boy and should be able to control his emotinos and not act like a 2 year old...

I was glad to see he got ripped a new one... also happy to see him go out there as they were wheeling Green off...

but the taunting was uncalled for and classless. Not saying TJ is because I don't know the guy... but that move was.

I'm not saying he should have done what he did. I 'm just saying, I can understand why he was pissed though. That could have easily ended his season.

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by grinch1134

he was just talking crap to someone that clipped him, I don't think he even realized the injury was serious

maybe so, still it was a legal block. how else is a qb gonna block a lineman that big. trent was just doing what he could to help his player gain some yards.

if you didnt see the play it was when green went down. green was laying face down not moving after a low (but legal) block that took tj out. tj then gets up and taunts him while he is laying unconscious on the ground.

enough with the negitives kris brown rules.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by grinch1134

he was just talking crap to someone that clipped him, I don't think he even realized the injury was serious

Even if Green wasn't hurt that's still a 15 yard penalty and a first down for 'talking crap'... just don't do it... especially after having a GREAT defensive play.

[grinch1134]

taunting= classless

defending yourself with harsh words= what anyone would do

Taunting= Hah look now you can't get up

Defending yourself= why the hell are you going for my knees, you could end my career

[mexican_texan]

Originally Posted by jaybird

If you're pissed yell at your buddies... yell at the sky... yell at the ground... don't walk up to the guy on the ground who is not moving and yell at him... he might not have 'meant' to taunt... but it was an easy call.

And to me it was obvious Green was hurt... I figured he had a concussion just cus that's his MO.... I don't want to get on the guy too much, but it was a stupid move.

It's not like TJ walked up to Green and started yelling. As soon as he got up, he turned around, looked for Green and pointed at him, yelling. He didn't even stop, he did it as he was walking towards the sideline.

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by jaybird

You don't taunt someone period in football... you especially don't taunt someone who is laying on the ground and not moving... I understand it was the heat of the moment and he was fired up because Green went for his legs... but he's a big boy and should be able to control his emotinos and not act like a 2 year old...

I was glad to see he got ripped a new one... also happy to see him go out there as they were wheeling Green off...

but the taunting was uncalled for and classless. Not saying TJ is because I don't know the guy... but that move was.

where did you see that? did the coach talk to him?

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by mexican_texan

It's not like TJ walked up to Green and started yelling. As soon as he got up, he turned around, looked for Green and pointed at him, yelling. He didn't even stop, he did it as he was walking towards the sideline.

You don't have to stop... he yelled at him at least three times and pointed at him... I give him credit for walking off, but still stupid... he made a point of walking right by Trent and yelling at him on the ground... textbook taunting.

[NitroGSXR]

Originally Posted by markbeth

maybe so, still it was a legal block. how else is a qb gonna block a lineman that big. trent was just doing what he could to help his player gain some yards.

if you didnt see the play it was when green went down. green was laying face down not moving after a low (but legal) block that took tj out. tj then gets up and taunts him while he is laying unconscious on the ground.

enough with the negitives kris brown rules.

A legal block? I'm sorry but that was a blatant chop block. Chop blocks are illegal and the Dolphins should have gotten penalized on that play. I hope Trent Green gets well though. And I hope that Travis gets a little bit of yelling by the coaches but I really don't think he was taunting. He was mad because he just got chop blocked. BAD. That 300+ man did a somersault! ONly way you're going to flip a guy that size is to chop block him.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by markbeth

where did you see that? did the coach talk to him?

TJ didn't make it off the field before the coach was in his ear... he was TICKED as soon as the flag came out then made it almost to the hash and was in his ear... nice thing was that it looked like he was yelling at him at first but then got up close and I'm guessing he was saying something along the lines of "I understand your ticked but you gotta control your emotions"

which is always why I'm guessing TJ went back out there when Trent was on the stretcher...

I think TJ is a good guy... and understand completley being ticked... I'm just more mad because it was a horrible move on his part to yell at a guy on the ground after you make a great play because that gave Miami a TD essentially.