Is a Win a Win?

[texasguy346]

Originally Posted by Vinny

the only thing better than a win is not losing.

That's a Yogi-ism if I ever heard one.

[Specnatz]

Originally Posted by Vinny

the only thing better than a win is not losing.

Hell a tie is even better than a loss.

[maddogmrb]

Originally Posted by jaybird

I agree and disagree on this one... Matt has been playing really well... but the Texans OL is subpar... they have average pass blocking and below average run blocking.

Next year the Texans need to invest in OL and a young RB whether it be in FA or the Draft. Of course a few new DBs wouldn't hurt either

100% Agreed. Our running game probs are a comb of lack of ability on the oline and with the RB's. Both need to be addressed this off-season. I'm hopeful that a healthy Chris Taylor will help the RB's. Spencer should help the running game and pass protection .... if he's healthy and can stay that way. Either way, those are big ifs at this point and we need to address both the oline and RB this off-season. Also, we need to get a good look at Studdard at LG and White at C to see what they can do. It may be that a healthy Spencer with these 2 youngsters could go a long way to helping our running game and pass protection.

[HoustonFrog]

We are talking Houston Texans here...a W is a special day. You can work on the problems and still have a W..

[DBCooper]

When you look at the standings, all you see is W's and L's. It doesn't matter how they got there.

[Double Barrel]

It was a hard win, but not an ugly one. Only losing is ugly, IMO.

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

It was a hard win, but not an ugly one. Only losing is ugly, IMO.

Winning with negative net passing yardage. That's an ugly win.

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

It was a hard win, but not an ugly one. Only losing is ugly, IMO.

Winning by a 57 yard FG with no time on the clock against an 0-4 team with no running game?

Naa . . that was UGLY!

[Double Barrel]

I guess...I understand the perspective, but I see a "W" as beautiful no matter how we got it.

So if something is beautiful, it cannot be ugly, IMO.

We played ugly, yes, but the win itself was beautiful and the heart the team showed in the face of such brutally fugly play was a work of art to me.

It's just a matter of perspective, I suppose.

[Thorn]

Originally Posted by DBCooper

When you look at the standings, all you see is W's and L's. It doesn't matter how they got there.

Yep, I agree. If you think about it, the Colts fans probably think their win over us was ugly, but it's still a W and not a L.

[Cjeremy635]

Yes, a win is a win. Even more importantly, if we can miraculously get healthy again, this win could be significant if we end up scratching at the door come play off time. Yes, nail biters always make me nervous given our history, but this team never gave up today and that's bigger than an "ugly" win. All in all, I'm happy with a severe case of nervousness.

[gjmac2]

Originally Posted by IlliniJen

I should have been more precise. David Carr, under pressure, is an absolute mess. He also would feel pressure that wasn't there. I don't think I ever once saw him step up in the pocket when feeling heat from the side...he would always flush out and many times cause his own sacks.

Many folks outside of Houston put all the fault at the feet of the O-line and those of us who have been around since year one know the true story.

On the drive where Schaub hit Owen Daniels at the 5 yrd line, right after he released the ball, Schaub got hit in the legs. He stood in there, knowing he was going to get hit, and delivered the ball. David Carr would not have made that play. To me, that's the difference in the #8 of last year and this year.

[Old School]

I guess I'm one of the few that opted for "B". I enjoyed the win and sure, any win is a good win....On that day. Today, I am worried about the next game because our running game is pathetic at best and even if Green does make it back next week I don't think it will be that much improved. Our O-Line is in really bad shape and I never imagined the not having McKinnney would make this much of a difference.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Old School

I never imagined the not having McKinnney would make this much of a difference.

It's the first game we have ever won when McKinney didn't play....how's that for an obscure factoid?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Vinny

It's the first game we have ever won when McKinney didn't play....how's that for an obscure factoid?

Yeah and it took a 57 yard field goal with 1 second left. maybe we should draw up his lifetime contract now before the rest of the league catches on!!!

[Giant Tiger]

You need some ugly wins (or lucky ones) to be successful. Denver had good records in the 90's but they had some wins when statistically it looked like they were getting slapped around in total yards, time of posession etc. Course it didn't hurt that they had Elway.
Last year Tennessee got the win at home, but the Texans played better. I hope we beat them exactly like that this year.

[Brando]

Chester as quoted in todays Chronicle.....

I'll tell you this - I'll take an ugly 'W' over the most beautiful loss ever in history, every day of the week.

[Texanmike02]

I voted no. I know noone's surprised but at this point I think you have to be more concerned about the way the game is played... not the final score. That said it is a young team and they are starting to learn how to win games which is important too. I can think back to the colts games and especially the N.E. game a few years back where we had teams on the ropes but just didn't know how to win games. I wish there was a vote for "The W was nice but we should be worried about next week".

Mike

[brickman]

A win is a win, but this team needs to nut up and start to play with a swagger. The run game is horrible and it's impossible to tell if it's the O Line or the fact that Green is out and we're counting on 2 bad rb's in Dayne and Gado... both castoffs from other teams.

[austintexanite]

I will gladly take an ugly W for a great L.