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**Brando** · 10-07-2007

I exhaled when Brown hit the game-winner after I waited to make sure there wasn't any penalties. Schaub didn't have his best performance but was clutch when he needed to be. Wasn't his best performance but I would rather have him leading the Texans down the field with the game on the line than the previous QB that we had.

Salaam and Pitts disappointed me today. That being said you have to give credit to Jason Taylor. The man had a great game.

Lemon came in and did a nice job but thanks for the INT to start the 2nd half.

Ronnie Brown is as good as advertised.

3-0 all time versus the Dolphins, I love it!!!!!!!!!

I should have added Kris Brown instead of Josh Brown on my FFL.

We're 3-2 and going to Jacksonville(3-1) in a big AFC South Showdown and hopefully we get all of playmakers back next week.

**Thorn** · 10-07-2007

I expect more from the defense. Today they did have Brown to contend with, and he is a monster, so his yards were expected.

I do think though, if we had all our weapons on offense, it wouldn't have been so close.

alphajoker · 10-07-2007

They played against two teams today...the Dolphins and themselves. There were a lot of costly penalties that could have changed the outcome of this game, but overall, I think we got lucky. No doubt, Kris Brown is the MVP today providing 15pts. alone off of FGs. The offense can sustain drives but it's the penalties and turnovers that hurts them the most. Special teams and 2nd half defense won this game today.

**drewmar74** · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by TexMexVato

2nd half defense won this game today.

Anyone know why it takes our defense 30 minutes to get going?

Just curious....

jaybird · 10-07-2007

Dear lord do we need Green back! Our running game is awful! And that's being nice.

Matt had a decent game. Came up with big plays when needed.

Penalties KILLED us... Not sure all of them were legit, but we had 3 plays of 30 yards or more (I think) that got called back because of penalties.

Defense played decent. Going up against a RB with two straight 200+ games is tough. And thankfully we finally learned that when the Phins had third and ong they were going to throw a screen.

Kris Brown is the man! nuff said.

White Runningback · 10-07-2007

This is what I was thinking after the game:

I'm tired of hearing other Texans fans talk about others "eating crow," and the ubiquitous "Can you believe that?" threads when the Texans aren't ranked as high in power rankings as some homers would like.

Fact is, respect is not given or bought, but earned. We damn near got rolled for the second the time in three weeks by teams that are expected to be the dregs of the NFL. It's laughable that unnamed individuals continue to clamor for respectability and "run" in the media when we have yet to deserve it. What have the Texans done so far that is profound or noteworthy... Have a record which approaches mediocrity?

Today, we were lucky and that's about it.

TheIronDuke · 10-07-2007

I think the last drive was executed pretty badly clock-wise. They let the play clock run before actually throwing the ball on the 2nd down. It was like they were giving up. There was also the play where they didn't know whether to call time-out or spike it that caused the clock to run.

Besides that, the running game is god-awful still. I don't count on Ahman Green either. We have to find someone who can run the damn football and it's not Dayne or Gado.

**Brando** · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by White Runningback

This is what I was thinking after the game:

I'm tired of hearing other Texans fans talk about others "eating crow," and the ubiquitous "Can you believe that?" threads when the Texans aren't ranked as high in power rankings as some homers would like.

Fact is, respect is not given or bought, but earned. We damn near got rolled for the second the time in three weeks by teams that are expected to be the dregs of the NFL. It's laughable that unnamed individuals continue to clamor for respectability and "run" in the media when we have yet to deserve it. What have the Texans done so far that is profound or noteworthy... Have a record which approaches mediocrity?

Today, we were lucky and that's about it.

You do realize we have been playing without our playmakers on offense?
Green,Johnson, and JJ. That's a fact.

We have the best record at this point in the season in franchise history with todays win. Teams that are good get lucky.

Leahmic223 · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by White Runningback

This is what I was thinking after the game:

I'm tired of hearing other Texans fans talk about others "eating crow," and the ubiquitous "Can you believe that?" threads when the Texans aren't ranked as high in power rankings as some homers would like.

Fact is, respect is not given or bought, but earned. We damn near got rolled for the second the time in three weeks by teams that are expected to be the dregs of the NFL. It's laughable that unnamed individuals continue to clamor for respectability and "run" in the media when we have yet to deserve it. What have the Texans done so far that is profound or noteworthy... Have a record which approaches mediocrity?

Today, we were lucky and that's about it.

You believe in luck? I sure as hell dont.

I said during the game "If we lose this game you can consider me giving up for the season on this team and looking towards the draft." my friend goes "Don't say that you'll jinx us?" I don't think I did. I don't think any thing I do affects the team like how some people might wear a lucky hat or something.

I don't think our win was luck though, Kris hit those FGs, we got in position, we made the stops we needed. Not to mention our playmakers are out IMO there is no way I walk away from this game disappointed in anything. A win is a win no matter how you win it.

prostock101 · 10-07-2007

Schaub did not have a great day but I give him a pass for the game winning drive. YKW could not have accomplished this win. It's pretty obvious that the offense is really missing Green, Johnson, Jacoby, and McKinney.

The receivers have done a great job which just shows that we have real depth at that position. At running back....not so much.

Kubiak is constantly preaching no turnovers and playing mistake free. For some reason, this team has not gotten the message. I couldn't believe all the penalties and especially the holding calls. And Travis Johnson called for taunting over Green????? Unbelieveable.

What I'm mostly curious about is where is the defense that played Carolina and held pretty tuff against the Colts? The last two games we haven't looked very sharp and gave up a lot of 3rd and long plays. Some sloppy tackling and not much pressure on a 2nd string QB.

Anyhoo, they found a way to win and while it ain't pretty, it sure beats the alternative......

White Runningback · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Leahmic223

You believe in luck? I sure as hell dont.

I said during the game "If we lose this game you can consider me giving up for the season on this team and looking towards the draft." my friend goes "Don't say that you'll jinx us?" I don't think I did. I don't think any thing I do affects the team like how some people might wear a lucky hat or something.

I don't think our win was luck though, Kris hit those FGs, we got in position, we made the stops we needed. Not to mention our playmakers are out IMO there is no way I walk away from this game disappointed in anything. A win is a win no matter how you win it.

There's a measure of luck in all facets of life, why should football be any different? Someone has to win the lotto, and I don't think it has much to do with one quick-pick patron being more skillful than the next.

You don't believe we were lucky to play a team that hasn't won a game as of yet when we did? Anyone else and it's likely we lose handily.

Yes, I'm aware our playmakers are out as well. Only solidifies what I'm trying to say.

White Runningback · 10-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by M Shadows

You do realize we have been playing without our playmakers on offense?
Green,Johnson, and JJ. That's a fact.

We have the best record at this point in the season in franchise history with todays win. Teams that are good get lucky.

Best record? At least you manage your expectations. Besides, that's not my hang up.

jaybird · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by White Runningback

Best record? At least you manage your expectations. Besides, that's not my hang up.

Yes - The Houston Texans have never been 3-2...

gjmac2 · 10-07-2007

A few things...

1. Running game has got to get better, Green or no Green.

2. Playcalling in the red zone still questionable, if not downright bad.

3. I think Bennett has earned more playing time, if not a start.

4. Travis Johnson is not a bad guy. He got caught up in the moment, and was mad about the block to the knees. I'm sure he feels bad about his actions knowing Trent Green suffered a concussion.

5. Schaub showed me a lot today.

6. The way the Texans played, they were lucky the Dolphins were in town.

The Pencil Neck · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by White Runningback

Best record? At least you manage your expectations. Besides, that's not my hang up.

What's wrong with having the best record after 5 games that we've ever had?

alphajoker · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon

I think the last drive was executed pretty badly clock-wise. They let the play clock run before actually throwing the ball on the 2nd down. It was like they were giving up. There was also the play where they didn't know whether to call time-out or spike it that caused the clock to run.

Besides that, the running game is god-awful still. I don't count on Ahman Green either. We have to find someone who can run the damn football and it's not Dayne or Gado.

Dude! They won, it doesn't matter. The last drive is what won the game.

**Andrew6** · 10-07-2007

I was disappointed in the running game, middle of the offensive line, and the refs.

It took Ron "phantom injury" dayne 4 plays to get 4 yards. I'm not sure if its all his fault or the fact that he tried to run up the middle and there was nothing there. Gado looked slightly better running but seemed to gain same amount of yards dayne did. I think we need more of a RUNNING back in the back field and not a full back.
I've never seen so many BS calls by refs since last game. I am starting to wonder if someone on the Texans was talking about their mothers or something.

**GlassHalfFull** · 10-07-2007

Kris Brown rocks is my first thought.

We escaped today with a win, barely. I don't believe much in whining, but I felt we had to beat not only the Dolphins today - but also the refs. From where I was sitting it seemed like the refs must of had some money on the game. The taunting was wrong - but where was the call for the clip? I didn't get to see it over and over so maybe it wasn't as bad as it looked from the stands. But would someone who watched on TV please let me know if the refs missed a call there and also what the report on Green is.

Going into the game I said the defense really needed to step up and play with intensity today. We had some great stuff, but let too many big plays go by.

Still, it is a win and we really needed this one.

White Runningback · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by jaybird

Yes - The Houston Texans have never been 3-2...

Right, so I guess the Texans should be on the front pages of ESPN, Sports Illustrated, and any other sports publication.

A torrential shower of praise should rain down from sportswriters far and wide, because at long last, the Texans are 3-2!

BattleRedToro · 10-07-2007

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

What's wrong with having the best record after 5 games that we've ever had?

Considering he has an image of VY's head in his avatar he might be more of a VY fan than a Texans fan. There are quite a few of them on here.

10-07-2007	#1
Brando Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,573 Rep Power: 1664	Post Game Thoughts? I exhaled when Brown hit the game-winner after I waited to make sure there wasn't any penalties. Schaub didn't have his best performance but was clutch when he needed to be. Wasn't his best performance but I would rather have him leading the Texans down the field with the game on the line than the previous QB that we had. Salaam and Pitts disappointed me today. That being said you have to give credit to Jason Taylor. The man had a great game. Lemon came in and did a nice job but thanks for the INT to start the 2nd half. Ronnie Brown is as good as advertised. 3-0 all time versus the Dolphins, I love it!!!!!!!!! I should have added Kris Brown instead of Josh Brown on my FFL. We're 3-2 and going to Jacksonville(3-1) in a big AFC South Showdown and hopefully we get all of playmakers back next week. __________________ Extra Special Thanks to False Start for the signature!

10-07-2007	#2
Thorn Dirty Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston Section: Restrained in the mental ward Age: 61 Posts: 18,214 Rep Power: 54477	Re: Post Game Thoughts? I expect more from the defense. Today they did have Brown to contend with, and he is a monster, so his yards were expected. I do think though, if we had all our weapons on offense, it wouldn't have been so close. __________________ "Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --- John Wayne

10-07-2007	#3
alphajoker Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,519 Rep Power: 2429	Re: Post Game Thoughts? They played against two teams today...the Dolphins and themselves. There were a lot of costly penalties that could have changed the outcome of this game, but overall, I think we got lucky. No doubt, Kris Brown is the MVP today providing 15pts. alone off of FGs. The offense can sustain drives but it's the penalties and turnovers that hurts them the most. Special teams and 2nd half defense won this game today.

10-07-2007	#5
jaybird Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 167 Rep Power: 6	Re: Post Game Thoughts? Dear lord do we need Green back! Our running game is awful! And that's being nice. Matt had a decent game. Came up with big plays when needed. Penalties KILLED us... Not sure all of them were legit, but we had 3 plays of 30 yards or more (I think) that got called back because of penalties. Defense played decent. Going up against a RB with two straight 200+ games is tough. And thankfully we finally learned that when the Phins had third and ong they were going to throw a screen. Kris Brown is the man! nuff said. __________________

10-07-2007	#6
White Runningback Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 129 Rep Power: 7	Re: Post Game Thoughts? This is what I was thinking after the game: I'm tired of hearing other Texans fans talk about others "eating crow," and the ubiquitous "Can you believe that?" threads when the Texans aren't ranked as high in power rankings as some homers would like. Fact is, respect is not given or bought, but earned. We damn near got rolled for the second the time in three weeks by teams that are expected to be the dregs of the NFL. It's laughable that unnamed individuals continue to clamor for respectability and "run" in the media when we have yet to deserve it. What have the Texans done so far that is profound or noteworthy... Have a record which approaches mediocrity? Today, we were lucky and that's about it.

10-07-2007	#7
TheIronDuke Disabled List Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston Age: 34 Posts: 3,110 Rep Power: 20013	Re: Post Game Thoughts? I think the last drive was executed pretty badly clock-wise. They let the play clock run before actually throwing the ball on the 2nd down. It was like they were giving up. There was also the play where they didn't know whether to call time-out or spike it that caused the clock to run. Besides that, the running game is god-awful still. I don't count on Ahman Green either. We have to find someone who can run the damn football and it's not Dayne or Gado.

10-07-2007	#10
prostock101 Mr. Big Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 471 Rep Power: 274	Re: Post Game Thoughts? Schaub did not have a great day but I give him a pass for the game winning drive. YKW could not have accomplished this win. It's pretty obvious that the offense is really missing Green, Johnson, Jacoby, and McKinney. The receivers have done a great job which just shows that we have real depth at that position. At running back....not so much. Kubiak is constantly preaching no turnovers and playing mistake free. For some reason, this team has not gotten the message. I couldn't believe all the penalties and especially the holding calls. And Travis Johnson called for taunting over Green????? Unbelieveable. What I'm mostly curious about is where is the defense that played Carolina and held pretty tuff against the Colts? The last two games we haven't looked very sharp and gave up a lot of 3rd and long plays. Some sloppy tackling and not much pressure on a 2nd string QB. Anyhoo, they found a way to win and while it ain't pretty, it sure beats the alternative......

10-07-2007	#14
gjmac2 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 42 Posts: 296 Rep Power: 13	Re: Post Game Thoughts? A few things... 1. Running game has got to get better, Green or no Green. 2. Playcalling in the red zone still questionable, if not downright bad. 3. I think Bennett has earned more playing time, if not a start. 4. Travis Johnson is not a bad guy. He got caught up in the moment, and was mad about the block to the knees. I'm sure he feels bad about his actions knowing Trent Green suffered a concussion. 5. Schaub showed me a lot today. 6. The way the Texans played, they were lucky the Dolphins were in town. __________________ “But the thing that’s changed around here is that we won’t take any moral victories. We’re here to win." - Gary Kubiak

10-07-2007	#17
Andrew6 Site Contributor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: League City Age: 32 Posts: 3,092 Rep Power: 4660	Re: Post Game Thoughts? I was disappointed in the running game, middle of the offensive line, and the refs. It took Ron "phantom injury" dayne 4 plays to get 4 yards. I'm not sure if its all his fault or the fact that he tried to run up the middle and there was nothing there. Gado looked slightly better running but seemed to gain same amount of yards dayne did. I think we need more of a RUNNING back in the back field and not a full back. I've never seen so many BS calls by refs since last game. I am starting to wonder if someone on the Texans was talking about their mothers or something. __________________ Daily Thought: SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKYS. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.

10-07-2007	#18
GlassHalfFull Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Section 353 Posts: 7,059 Rep Power: 39082	Re: Post Game Thoughts? Kris Brown rocks is my first thought. We escaped today with a win, barely. I don't believe much in whining, but I felt we had to beat not only the Dolphins today - but also the refs. From where I was sitting it seemed like the refs must of had some money on the game. The taunting was wrong - but where was the call for the clip? I didn't get to see it over and over so maybe it wasn't as bad as it looked from the stands. But would someone who watched on TV please let me know if the refs missed a call there and also what the report on Green is. Going into the game I said the defense really needed to step up and play with intensity today. We had some great stuff, but let too many big plays go by. Still, it is a win and we really needed this one. __________________

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