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Old 10-02-2007   #21
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I don't know much about Davis, but I wonder why he has been with 4 teams in 6 years? (He was a guest on ABC's Inside the Game on Sunday night and I heard them say that.) I feel he has contributed when we needed him to, just don't know why he hasn't been able to find a team to stay with. Any knocks on the guy? Why won't a team keep him around?
He can make the highlight reel catch, but he also can drop a perfectly thrown ball at the worst possible time. He just hasn't done it here . . yet.
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After reading this little snippett from Monday's quotes, I think it's obvious Kubiak is getting fed up with Mathis' wussyness.

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He’s been very sore in his lower leg and but everything that we’ve checked out has been OK. So no reason not to think that he won’t be back out there this week, but, you know, we’ve been through this before so we’ll wait and see.
I hope Mathis gets his stuff together.

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He might have just started slow and then run into a numbers game when he did pick it up. Maybe he was with teams where he didn't get the coaching he needed. Then again it seems like every year we send some WR packing that we all wish we could keep. Some people wanted to keep Sloan Thomas a little longer and others wished we could have hung on to Derrick Armstrong. WR seems to be a well stocked position in this league with a few great ones on top and then a huge sea of "pretty good" guys below that.

Then again maybe he's just had a couple of great games and he's not as good as he's looked the past two weeks. It's possible. Remember, even Corey Bradford could make that ridiculous acrobatic catch every now and then.
True, but it's pretty clear that Andre Davis >> Corey Bradford.
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Anything new on AJ?
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What you guys have to realize is that some guys can't be the #1. I think Davis and Walter both have upside, but as #2's. I like the idea of using JJ in the slot, and when Dre comes back and fits in the #1 spot, it takes the focus off of our #2's ()trying to be #1's) and they can perform better. I think Walters is a good possesion receiver and Davis showed this past week what he can do. Think about Marcus Colston in New Orleans. He was a great #2 last year when they had Joe Horn. Horn leaves and now Colston is the man and he's not doing much. The rest of the league has figured out how to handle him. It's the real cream of the league (Dre, Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, etc). that rises to the top. That's why they are #1's! Defenses throw their best stuff at them and they still excel.
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Jacoby is out for another week? Not sure where you are getting that. He will be likely to practice as of tomorrow per Kubes:

Kubiak said he is optimistic cornerback Fred Bennett (hamstring) and receivers Jacoby Jones (shoulder) and Jerome Mathis (lower leg) will return to practice Wednesday. He also hopes running back Ahman Green (knee) might return later in the week.
Yeah I hear about him coming back this week is a possibility. I got that from his initial report though, it said 2 weeks and it sounded sure that he would be out at least 2 weeks.
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I don't know much about Davis, but I wonder why he has been with 4 teams in 6 years? (He was a guest on ABC's Inside the Game on Sunday night and I heard them say that.) I feel he has contributed when we needed him to, just don't know why he hasn't been able to find a team to stay with. Any knocks on the guy? Why won't a team keep him around?
I heard he was always injured.
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Cleared to play or not, I don't want AJ on the field unless he's 100%. He has paid his dues, and he's owed that privilege.

Mathis better have his soft ass back on the field, though.
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Sorry, but Walter doesn't impress me as anything more than a chain mover,
Walter is no. 2 because he's a possession WR. That's his job and we need that roll fulfilled, as well.

That being said, Davis is turning into a stud and I wouldn't mind seeing Kubiak platoon the no. 2 spot and even throw some 3 receiver sets out there. Along with OD and healthy Green, the offense could make some noise.
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As much as I want AJ, JJ, and JM back I am more concerned with the our run game. Schaub had over 300 yards passing Sunday with basicly, who we had listed as our #1, #3, and #4 WR out. If Kubes had a RB who could pick up two yards when we needed it I don't think any of us would be wanting AJ to rush back this weekend. I know alot of those passing yards came when we were behind, but how many times would have a 2 yard gain from Dayne meant the difference in the game? If AJ and Green are cleared to go I will be a happy camper, but right now I don't know that we can count on either being ready to answer the bell. I am anxious for the day we can line up AJ, JJ, and AD with OD and with AG and MS in the backfield.
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As much as I want AJ, JJ, and JM back I am more concerned with the our run game.
Me too. I was worried in preseason when Green did OK, but the rest of our backs were getting stuffed in the backfield. It seemed they were lining up in a lot more single back sets than at the end of last year, when Dayne had his success. Part of this was probably them having to play catch-up, but I think Dayne needs Leach to lead block for him.
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Having our WR's HELPS the running game. Without Andre, teams focus on our running game and do not worry about the receivers. That is why you see A Davis always with one on one coverage.
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For the life of me i can't understand why some of you are still down on Walter. Dude has done nothing but catch the ball when it's thrown to him.

He's our number 2 b/c he does the dirty work in this system which calls for moving the chains with tough catches in the middle as a possession WR & basically playing fullback in some running plays, all of which he's done pretty well thus far.

JJ's probably not ready for the latter, & with Davis' history, he probably can't do it.
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For the life of me i can't understand why some of you are still down on Walter. Dude has done nothing but catch the ball when it's thrown to him.

He's our number 2 b/c he does the dirty work in this system which calls for moving the chains with tough catches in the middle as a possession WR & basically playing fullback in some running plays, all of which he's done pretty well thus far.

JJ's probably not ready for the latter, & with Davis' history, he probably can't do it.
Because he doesn't have the stats or won't make sportcenter. Walter is big piece of this offense and nobody wants to see it.
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Walter has done a good job this year but he isn't a legit #2. He would probably be the first to tell you that. He is a really good #3 though.

maybe we could elevate Davis to #2 and Walter to #3 and then have JJ and Anderson fight it out for playtime when they go four wide.

I just hope AJ is OK. The Texans need him. Schaub needs him. We all need him.
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I'd rather have Walter and Anderson fight it out for PT.

When Jacoby was healthy he was more of a factor than Walter was.
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"Sorry, but Walter doesn't impress me as anything more than a chain mover,"

I wish we could say that about our running game.

Let's see:

Move the chains = better field position = more opportunities to score points = more wins

Sounds okay to me.

But, I am intrigued by a single back offense with Daniels at TE and Johnson, Davis, & Jones at WR. I think there's alot of potential there.
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wow... 5 posts in a row with Kevin Walter (not Walters) having his name spelled correctly! it looks like it's not only the football team that's getting better!
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I think Kevin Walters would make a great WR 3.
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We can't have anyone like that on our squad. Send him to the PS.
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Walter has done a good job this year but he isn't a legit #2. He would probably be the first to tell you that. He is a really good #3 though.

maybe we could elevate Davis to #2 and Walter to #3 and then have JJ and Anderson fight it out for playtime when they go four wide.

I just hope AJ is OK. The Texans need him. Schaub needs him. We all need him.


Walter is well-rounded & he'd likely have as many TD's as AJ if Schaub hits him in stride in the KC game & Salaam doesn't tango with Abraham in the ATL game in the redzone. How's that for a guy who isn't a "legit" #2?

Like Kubes said he's a "lunch pail" type guy & you've got to have a couple of those guys on your team.

I think that some of you get caught up in thinking that a legit #2 WR has to be a Reggie Wayne type guy, when in reality, most #2 WR's in the NFL are of the TJ housmanzadeh type, tough, physical worker-like type dudes who play with a chip on their shoulders b/c they were undervalued/underappreciated for 1 reason or another.

Not saying walter is completely in that mold, but he's got similar qualities.
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