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Old 10-01-2007   #1
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Default Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

Don't worry, After OU lays the smack down on them this weekend, they SHOULD be completely out of the top 25.

mack, you don't have VY anymore, YOU CAN"T RUN THE ZONE READ ANYMORE, & EXPECT THE SAME SUCCESS!!!!
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Cool Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

Because preseason polls should be eliminated, that's how
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Default Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

even if preseason polls are eliminated, texas would be ahead of K-State just based on name alone. it'll all sort itself out
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Default Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

Polls are bs, bring on a playoff system already!!!
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Default Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

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Oh and UT fans here's a question for you. How does Texas remain 5 clicks ahead of K-State in this poll after they lose to the Wildcats by 3 TDs - in Austin ?
1: Unranked prior to cracking the top 25 now
2: For all the talk going on UT still beat a ranked team in TCU (at the time at least)
3. Keep your bullseye on them fine...but don't push them in the grave when they aren't dead.
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Default Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

At least LSU finally jumped over USC.

They have been far more impressive up to this point.
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At least LSU finally jumped over USC.

They have been far more impressive up to this point.
And USC ! Something about them reminds me of the Sooner team of a few years ago that was supposed to be one of the greatest ever and then got whacked bad a couple times. Didn't K-State knock them off that year ?
I understand they have to play "AT" Cal & Oregon this year ? If they remain undefeated this Fall, they will have to work for it.
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How does OU stay 27 spots ahead of Colorado? Why does OU only drop 7 spots while Texas drops 12 when OU lost to a much worse team (according to the pollsters).

Easy answer...the polls suck.
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How does OU stay 27 spots ahead of Colorado? Why does OU only drop 7 spots while Texas drops 12 when OU lost to a much worse team (according to the pollsters).

Easy answer...the polls suck.
All good points.
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Default Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

People aren't willing to let Florida and Texas fall as far as they should.
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How does OU stay 27 spots ahead of Colorado? Why does OU only drop 7 spots while Texas drops 12 when OU lost to a much worse team (according to the pollsters).

Easy answer...the polls suck.
you can't have every team lower than the team(s) that beat them, it would be a trainwreck.

and Texas looked far worse in their defeat than OU.
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How does OU stay 27 spots ahead of Colorado? Why does OU only drop 7 spots while Texas drops 12 when OU lost to a much worse team (according to the pollsters).

Easy answer...the polls suck.
I dont know, maybe b/c...........

OU lost to a bad team by 3 away from home in the waining moments of a game.

Texas got smashed at home by 20 freakin' points to an equally worse team, & has struggled pretty much all year.

you figure it out.
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Don't worry, After OU lays the smack down on them this weekend, they SHOULD be completely out of the top 25.
Why? Isn't #10 supposed to beat #19 rather handily?

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I dont know, maybe b/c...........

OU lost to a bad team by 3 away from home in the waining moments of a game.

Texas got smashed at home by 20 freakin' points to an equally worse team, & has struggled pretty much all year.

you figure it out.
Sorry, but Colorado was considered a much worse team than K-State and still is. AP has them 36 vs. 24 K-State. Coaches have them 41 vs. 31.

From what I've seen Texas is overrated this year, But that doesn't change the fact that the polls are a joke without rhyme or reason.
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Default Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

that's not "much worse" at all. pretty much equal since all the teams in that area aren't too much different from each other talent-wise.

texas will get beat by OU and drop in the polls because losing=bad.
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that's not "much worse" at all. pretty much equal since all the teams in that area aren't too much different from each other talent-wise.
K-State's only loss is at Auburn. Colorado has lost at AZ State and Florida State at home.

There is ZERO evidence to conclude they are equal teams. To the contrary, based on record and schedule; Colorado isn't even close.

Don't take this to mean I think Texas will win next week. I think they're in deep trouble. (although I hope I'm wrong)
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Default Re: Oct.1 AP top 25 has LSU ahead of USC

yes, but if you're going to make the polls accurate, then you want to judge a team based on their entire season. and Oklahoma has destroyed teams left and right, whereas Texas has barely won against every opponent (except Rice). even if Texas' loss isn't as bad as OU's, their wins aren't nearly as good as OU's, so put two and two together, and you get a lower ranking.
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yes, but if you're going to make the polls accurate, then you want to judge a team based on their entire season. and Oklahoma has destroyed teams left and right, whereas Texas has barely won against every opponent (except Rice). even if Texas' loss isn't as bad as OU's, their wins aren't nearly as good as OU's, so put two and two together, and you get a lower ranking.

Yep, but my whole point is that you can't make the polls accurate; it's all inference and speculation. As much as I enjoy debating the polls, they should be relegated to the status of the NFL Power Rankings; fun, but irrelevant.

FWIW - I think you're right. Its the entire poll system I have a problem with; not Texas' ranking.
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The poll that matters .... the Coaches Poll still has USC up top . Ugh I hate USC almost as much as I despise the the Sox and Yanks. (Pey-Me-a-ton , You are right up there with them)


The Horns ..... they arent as good a team as many make them out to be . As a die hard horns fan ..... that hurts. /cry
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Undefeated OSU? FL one loss to Auburn...? Just sayin'....
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