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Old 10-04-2007   #141
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(on if there is anything new with the team today) “No, (RB) Ahman (Green) practiced some, so that’s encouraging as we move forward. Not much has changed in anything. The one thing, I’ll mention this to you all, is with (WR) Jerome (Mathis). Jerome does have a problem with his lower leg. He is at the hospital right now. We are, basically, in the process of diagnosing how severe it is and how long it’s going to take. I don’t know enough to sit here and tell you all exactly what the problem is. I’ll let (head athletic trainer) Kevin (Bastin) do that. We definitely figured out what’s bothering him; now we have to figure out how long the kid’s going to be out or how severe this injury is. That’s all I can tell you.”

(on what’s bothering WR Jerome Mathis) “He’s got a problem in his lower leg. They found the spot. I hate to be so vague; I’ll let Kevin (Bastin) talk to you. He definitely has a problem. Hell, the kid could barely walk, run. We were looking and looking and last night they asked him to go back and do some more and they did, and we know we have a problem right now that we’re dealing with. We’ll let you know how severe the problem is here as quick as we can.”

(on his expectations for how long WR Jerome Mathis will be out) “I couldn’t even tell you. I have no idea. I know he’s going to miss some time. I know that.”

(on how disappointing this is) “It’s very disappointing because for the kid. He did everything we asked him to do. He worked extremely hard. He had a good camp. He was helping this team and then this starts again. We went through this last year and, basically, the kid missed the entire season last year. I don’t know how many times he was active, maybe three or four, I could be wrong, but to have this happen again to the kid, it’s unfortunate for him. But I will say this, there had to be something wrong because it was bothering him too much and we were doing everything we could to find out and now we think we know what the problem is.”

(on what will be done as far as WR Jerome Mathis’ spot on the roster) “It really doesn’t change anything. It’s just obvious that we have an issue at wide receiver. We have three healthy wide receivers. If we’re going to get a fourth one, we’re going to have to pull somebody up or sign somebody. It’s as simple as that. We have to make that decision how we go play this game, just like I told you last week. Do we go play it with four tight (ends) and three wide (receivers) or do we sign a receiver? That’s a decision we have to make. We have to keep going forward.”

(on the status of WR Jacoby Jones) “He’s about the same as he was yesterday. He did a little bit, caught punts, put the pads on, took them off, but very limited in practice.”

(on if he expects WR Jacoby Jones to play on Sunday) “I don’t want to go that far yet, but it’s about the same as it was yesterday.”

(on WR Andre Johnson’s results from the doctor yesterday) “Nothing new, just the fact that everything’s positive and he can start to speed up his work to get back on the field. That’s where he’s at. But that’s it. Like I said with (WR) Jerome (Mathis) you guys, we’ll let you know. I don’t know what else to tell you.”

(on having a player battling injuries) “It’s hard. I’ve seen players that their first two or three years in their career battle injury, injury, injury, and you’re like, ‘will they ever stay one the field for the full amount of time?’ Then all of a sudden, they get healthy and play 10 years. You don’t know. This kid’s had an issue with his leg. Is this the exact same issue he had last year? No, it’s my understanding it’s not the same, but it’s on the same side. It’s part of the problem. I feel bad for him because he couldn’t go and we’re having a hard time finding out why and this team could really use him. He could help, but there’s nothing you can do. If you’re hurt, you’re hurt.”

(on if he knows what exam was used to determine the problem) “I just know that they went through many tests last night and I got a call about 10:00 p.m. from Kevin (Bastin) explaining to me what was going on, explained to me about the way I’m explaining to you. I’ll let Kevin do the rest of the work with you.”

(on if WR Jerome Mathis stayed in the hospital) “No, he was here. He actually came over here, was at practice early watching practice. We sent him to a specialist here this afternoon. That’s why he’s not here today. He should be back in the building some time this afternoon, but we’re just really trying to diagnose this issue, trying to get a feel for what we’re looking at because we’re going to have to make a decision. We need to know what we’re dealing with, so we’re trying to get that more defined.”
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Old 10-04-2007   #142
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I said that I doubted Mathis was dogging it.

Just couldn't picture a guy who has worked hard enough to get to the level he is at and pulling stunt like that.

It really made no sense.
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That would be me. Since Mathis, our coach and our medical staff all have a history when it comes to injuries, that cannot be ignored. Therefore, there is no shame. Just a matter of discussion on what our root cause is in this situation.

There is no higher moral ground in this medium, your bark has no bite on this one.
And your calling him out does? Who knows their body the best? Coach? You? Medical Staff that has missed things in the past? Or the Athlete who is hurting?

Nothing wrong with guessing. Calling someone out when you don't know the WHOLE story is another thing.

Plenty of moral ground here; Shut up until you know what is really going on.
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Old 10-04-2007   #144
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And your calling him out does? Who knows their body the best? Coach? You? Medical Staff that has missed things in the past? Or the Athlete who is hurting?

Nothing wrong with guessing. Calling someone out when you don't know the WHOLE story is another thing.
I have not called anyone out, simply have submitted scenarios based on the indicators. A thread has a beginning and end. If you read as such you will see your statement above is exactly what I am doing.
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Have to admit...Even though Kaiser seemed to be leaning towards the "Jerome is dogging it" side of things, he never really said that....

He said "if"...a lot of us said if though...
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I have not called anyone out, simply have submitted scenarios based on the indicators. A thread has a beginning and end. If you read as such you will see your statement above is exactly what I am doing.
Then what exactly are you admitting to?

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isnt quincy morgan out there?what about bethel johnson?
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Then what exactly are you admitting to?
You calling a member out based on limited digestion of that suspect's words.
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Sounds like Bob Allen owes Mathis an apology. Hopefully, he'll bring Jerome in studio and do it on air.
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Sounds like Bob Allen owes Mathis an apology. Hopefully, he'll bring Jerome in studio and do it on air.

Great suggestion.

Hopefully he says something.
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You calling a member out based on limited digestion of that suspect's words.
This isn't calling him out? I.e. He's soft?

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Bionics? I think I have the authority, per my Avatar, to speak to Bionics. Mathis may be wired differently than most, but he is more Tin Man than Bionic.
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Does not solve the issue of the root cause - a player with no heart, a player who does not report injuries immediately to get proper care or a bunch of quacks on our medical staff.
It's like Mathis can't win. He says he's hurt - people call him out. He plays hurt this year and he's in the wrong for toughing it out?
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Oh, oh. Sounds like Miami is out.
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This isn't calling him out? I.e. He's soft?





It's like Mathis can't win. He says he's hurt - people call him out. He plays hurt this year and he's in the wrong for toughing it out?
If you do not get the joke and then cannot see it being emphasized with the smilie, then please pardon me.
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Great suggestion.

Hopefully he says something.
Yeah, him and just about everyone on this board, LOL.
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It seems to me that Kubiak's tone is a little different now, re: Mathis. That's good.
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I"ll admit. I thought he was being a wuss.

I was getting upset due to the fact that I thought he didn't want to play because of a sore leg. Hopefully it's nothing serious and he can get back healthy so that he can start playing again.
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It seems to me that Kubiak's tone is a little different now, re: Mathis. That's good.
Could this be from what medical team was telling him? I had a thread some time back about teams doctors and I focused on the acceptance of LT Tony Boselli health.
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Sounds like Bob Allen owes Mathis an apology. Hopefully, he'll bring Jerome in studio and do it on air.
WHY?? For telling the truth, as he see's it?? JMO, BUT, I have a feeling JM is one of the best actors on the team!! We'll see after the specialist gives a report. Regardless, injured or not, he is NOT helping our team!! Put him on IR and pick up someone who cares!!
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