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Old 09-28-2007   #21
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Wow, we are extremely luck to be facing Atlanta this week. If it were about any other team, I would think this would be major trouble. I hope Andre Davis can have a big game!
I think Atlanta is lucky to be facing us this week.
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I sincerely hope this is a physical injury rather than a mental one. Reading Kubiak's words, rather than listening to them, makes me believe Kubiak is losing patience with Mathis again.
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Mathis got the game ball last week.


I think Kubes can stand to have a little more patience.
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I sincerely hope this is a physical injury rather than a mental one. Reading Kubiak's words, rather than listening to them, makes me believe Kubiak is losing patience with Mathis again.
I wouldn't blame him if he did.

Right when he needs him the most, when he really needs to count on him to step up . . . he pulls this 'my foot hurts' crap.
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I wouldn't blame him if he did.

Right when he needs him the most, when he really needs to count on him to step up . . . he pulls this 'my foot hurts' crap.

Early last camp, there was ton of criticism of Mathis for jaking it.

Until of course, it turned out he had a stress fracture in the foot that the Texans didn't promptly diagnose. But once it was, they ended up doing surgery on it. His type of fracture wasn't the easiest to diagnose.

Let's all step away from our jump to conclusions mat. I know that once someone has been identified as a jake, it's hard to break away from that.
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Early last camp, there was ton of criticism of Mathis for jaking it.

Until of course, it turned out he had a stress fracture in the foot that the Texans didn't promptly diagnose. But once it was, they ended up doing surgery on it. His type of fracture wasn't the easiest to diagnose.

Let's all step away from our jump to conclusions mat. I know that once someone has been identified as a jake, it's hard to break away from that.
This is not just about jaking, but about taking care of business.

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(on WR Jerome Mathis) ďOh, ok, I did forget one. Well, you know, I really donít know. He didnít say anything about his leg after the game. Monday morning was not a problem. He came in Monday after the meeting, said his lower leg was sore. Did a little bit yesterday, continues to say itís sore today, so (head athletic trainer) Kevin (Bastin) thought we should hold him, so weíll see. We took the x-rays, MRI, we didnít see anything, so weíll just play it day to day.Ē
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KT - Sounds like he was trying to tough it out until it really started bothering him.
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KT - Sounds like he was trying to tough it out until it really started bothering him.
I would like to hope for that as I am a leave no behind type of guy. However, one's personal history and fear of accountability and responsibility within an entity that has finite positions available is what I am reading the issue to be. At this point, more than ever, Mathis needs to be on the field. Therefore, phantom and especially non reported injuries need to be left to a minimum.
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I think it's pretty safe to say Mathis knows that.

I find it hard to believe he is dogging it, given the circumstances. Otherwise he's the most naive person on the planet.
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Kubes will have another quiet talk and Mathis will score 3 TDs.On the last score he will do a flip into end zone breaking a collar bone and miss rest of season. Bethel Johnson will be resigned and become the "next best thing".
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Kubes will have another quiet talk and Mathis will score 3 TDs.On the last score he will do a flip into end zone breaking a collar bone and miss rest of season. Bethel Johnson will be resigned and become the "next best thing".
As much as I like Bethel, he doesn't have Mathis' speed...not even CLOSE.

I really, REALLY hope it's just his leg and not that foot acting up again.
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I would hate to think that Mathis is actually fearful of failure as a legitimate WR rather than that occasional fill in, now that he would be placed in that position this week if he were healthy...............but, with his history, I can't help but having it cross my mind more than once.
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A foot is considered the lower leg, right?
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I remember thinking when the schedule came out that I was glad the bye week was later this year, I wanted to get my Houston football fix. Now what I wouldn't give for a week 4 bye week.

It is what it is, we will have to get through it. Davis, Walter, Gado, OD will need to be impressive.
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I think it's pretty safe to say Mathis knows that.

I find it hard to believe he is dogging it, given the circumstances. Otherwise he's the most naive person on the planet.
Agreed.

Injuries are a weird thing. I was talking to one player about how he feels the day after a game, and he says it is hard to find parts of him that aren't sore. Sometimes what hurts in the morning, goes away.
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technically maybe, but not usually by medical personel.................upper leg, lower leg, and foot.
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Challenge.

That's the word that Kubiak uses instead of "Oh ****."

The legend of Matt Schaub is going to grow if he can win with this particular group. A crap running game and a bunch of receivers that absolutely nobody else wanted.

Big Bad Schaub, indeed.
The only game I can remember that comes close to this one in terms of the number of skill guys down and going on the road and snatching a victory was when Gifford walked into San Deigo for a wild card game and didn't lose it. If I remeber correctly Morriarity literally threw the crutches away just befor kick off and gave them enough of a ruhing attack to pull it out. And....Vernon Perry had a Career day. Be nice if we saw a safty making one or two big plays come sunday. Can we all agree that MS is prety well hand cuffed on this one ?

If he does pull it out, he's going to earn his check this week.
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I would hate to think that Mathis is actually fearful of failure as a legitimate WR rather than that occasional fill in, now that he would be placed in that position this week if he were healthy...............but, with his history, I can't help but having it cross my mind more than once.
Hard to not be negitive with him. Here is his chance to show case, put his name in the league, and he gets another injury. The guy is either very unlucky or...

I dunno and I'm not in the room, but it does cast a shadow of doubt about the guy. If he's hurt, he's hurt. But dependable is not Jerome Mathis' middle name.
More like red cross.
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Can we all agree that MS is prety well hand cuffed on this one ?
Nope. People around here seem to forget having a WR like AJ is a luxury not what every team has. Matt Schaub works with what he has. Prior to Schaub starting the NE game, Vick had 5 sub 200 yard passing games. Schaub came in and had a 300 yd day. Vick followed that up with 2 sub 150 yd games. Vick had 4 TD's in his 7 games--Schaub had 3 in his one. Those WR's were guys reviled for being too poor to support Vick but Schaub made them work including primary pass catcher of the day undrafted and out of the league Brian Finneran. He can do the same with Daniels and this crew.

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Agreed--that is what earning your paycheck is not just throwing your hands up in the air or whining about having no chance.
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Nope. People around here seem to forget having a WR like AJ is a luxury not what every team has. Matt Schaub works with what he has. Prior to Schaub starting the NE game, Vick had 5 sub 200 yard passing games. Schaub came in and had a 300 yd day. Vick followed that up with 2 sub 150 yd games. Vick had 4 TD's in his 7 games--Schaub had 3 in his one. Those WR's were guys reviled for being too poor to support Vick but Schaub made them work including primary pass catcher of the day undrafted and out of the league Brian Finneran. He can do the same with Daniels and this crew.



Agreed--that is what earning your paycheck is not just throwing your hands up in the air or whining about having no chance.
So you are posting that MS will have a 300 yard day with how many targets between the three wide outs ? Hmm interesting. I'll agree that MS...in the pocket, with guys he's worked with befor, given time, is an excellent QB.

But....not whining here, to expect him to go lights out with out a running game, with out familuar targets, is a bit of a reach. What I think is that a lot of folks in here were so happpy that the QB situation changed, that MS got elevated to NFL God like status. And he ain't that. He's a good QB who manages the game well .....If he has all of his parts. And he doesn't have that this game. I'm not banging. There's a NFL reality here. We're on the road. We're coming off an emotional loss. We're favored.
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