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Old 09-25-2007   #61
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I think it's the offensive line, it looks like there are never any holes to run through. I think it will take a couple offseasons to retool our offensive line into one that can run-block as well as pass-block.
with McKinney's career in serious question & Flanagan not far behind selecting a stud to shore up the middle will get special interest. short of spending a 1st rd. pick on as close to a complete package as possible its more likely the Texans draft a cb in the first & look at addressing the center position in the 3rd rd. Texas A&M have a good one in Cody Wallace that would help the run game next year if selected
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You can usually hold up on center till later rounds, since there are usually more talented prospects than there are teams that need them. Two 1st round talent centers went in the 3rd and 4th this year
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You can usually hold up on center till later rounds, since there are usually more talented prospects than there are teams that need them. Two 1st round talent centers went in the 3rd and 4th this year
your absolutely correct about that. however this is a need both in developing the rushing game/lanes & pass protection. there is one bluechip center in the upcoming draft, Steve Justice, Wake Forrest & he is a perfect fit for the Zone blocking scheme because of his quickness, maybe he'll slide to the Texans in the 3rd, rd. you never know & its early.

I also seem to remember the Texans bringing in Enoka Lucas (released by Texans 7/23) who is now on the Bucs' practice squad. Anyone know the procedure for claiming a player off another teams practice squad?
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your absolutely correct about that. however this is a need both in developing the rushing game/lanes & pass protection. there is one bluechip center in the upcoming draft, Steve Justice, Wake Forrest & he is a perfect fit for the Zone blocking scheme because of his quickness, maybe he'll slide to the Texans in the 3rd, rd. you never know & its early.

I also seem to remember the Texans bringing in Enoka Lucas (released by Texans 7/23) who is now on the Bucs' practice squad. Anyone know the procedure for claiming a player off another teams practice squad?
I'm pretty sure that you have to sign the palyer to the 53 man roster, and with the team having already having alook at Lucas I don't think this is likely. Espically with White being here when Lucas was cut.
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I don't feel like searching for the quote, but Kubiak said he released some of those players because he felt like they were good ball players who just wouldn't be able to make our roster due to numbers...

So he let them walk early so they could get with another team while camp was still going...
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You can usually hold up on center till later rounds, since there are usually more talented prospects than there are teams that need them. Two 1st round talent centers went in the 3rd and 4th this year
This is the way I can possibly see it going down this off-season.

We now have a couple of young talented guards that will most likely play for several years. We drafted a talented up and coming guard in Studdard. I'd move Studdard to center this off-season considering he wouldn't get any playing time at guard unless he was to beat out Weary or Pitts. He seems too talented to sit and wait for his turn.

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Yes, the line is the problem, but since when has that made any difference to the front office? They will probably free-agent a cornerback and another journeyman lineman, and then draft a linebacker for all we know...
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enough covering the line defeincies now back to our RB situation. How do y'all feel about our 3rd string RB, Samkon Gado, being the go to guy for the next game or two?

I haven't really seen a reason to take a close, carefull look at Sam because I never imagined the Texans being in this situation. very limited playing time here, I know he had some good production in Green Bay a couple years ago so he is most likely a system type of RB which Kubiak & Sherman should know a great deal about. I like the fact the Texans have a strong & growing Nigerian connection, they all seem athletic gifted, smart & hard workers. He came out of Liberty University going undrafted in 2005. virtually unknown coming out but has excellent size for the position. the official Texans website has more information on him than anywhere I can find so I'm going to have to go out on a limb & grade him based on the limited action I've seen-

Samkon Gado, 5-10 226. well rounded skill set, can do everything but only average. strongest aspect of game- blocking & picking up the blitz (might suggest the Texans game plan is to open up the passing game against Atlanta). can catch & run with the ball but does not have soft hands (does not pluck the ball) needs to protect the ball from impact (wrap up or switch to the proper arm & fend off defenders with stiff arm). good runner between the tackles, runs best downhill, more powerful than elusive can run through tackles. not sure if its because of lack of experience or coaching but does not have natural instincts or vision to see plays develop or use blocking schemes & improvise. seems durable (last man standing) tough, smart & team player.
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enough covering the line defeincies now back to our RB situation. How do y'all feel about our 3rd string RB, Samkon Gado, being the go to guy for the next game or two?

I haven't really seen a reason to take a close, carefull look at Sam because I never imagined the Texans being in this situation. very limited playing time here, I know he had some good production in Green Bay a couple years ago so he is most likely a system type of RB which Kubiak & Sherman should know a great deal about. I like the fact the Texans have a strong & growing Nigerian connection, they all seem athletic gifted, smart & hard workers. He came out of Liberty University going undrafted in 2005. virtually unknown coming out but has excellent size for the position. the official Texans website has more information on him than anywhere I can find so I'm going to have to go out on a limb & grade him based on the limited action I've seen-

Samkon Gado, 5-10 226. well rounded skill set, can do everything but only average. strongest aspect of game- blocking & picking up the blitz (might suggest the Texans game plan is to open up the passing game against Atlanta). can catch & run with the ball but does not have soft hands (does not pluck the ball) needs to protect the ball from impact (wrap up or switch to the proper arm & fend off defenders with stiff arm). good runner between the tackles, runs best downhill, more powerful than elusive can run through tackles. not sure if its because of lack of experience or coaching but does not have natural instincts or vision to see plays develop or use blocking schemes & improvise. seems durable (last man standing) tough, smart & team player.
To me, if you can't use Gado in that game on Sunday, and think Cook is a better option at tailback, then Gado has no business being on the roster. I have yet to hear a suitable explanation for that nonsense.
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To me, if you can't use Gado in that game on Sunday, and think Cook is a better option at tailback, then Gado has no business being on the roster. I have yet to hear a suitable explanation for that nonsense.

I must spread some reputation around before giving it to you again but this is just plain common sense. What's the point of being on the roster if you can't do the job?

He was "rusty"? WTF is that? Doesn't he go to practice? Aren't we only 3 games into the season? Didn't he get to play in the preseason? How in the hell does he get so rusty that he's useless in three weeks?
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To me, if you can't use Gado in that game on Sunday, and think Cook is a better option at tailback, then Gado has no business being on the roster. I have yet to hear a suitable explanation for that nonsense.
Gado is Sherman's boy, no other explanation needed. He will likely be our #3 until Rick Smith puts his foot down.

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I must spread some reputation around before giving it to you again but this is just plain common sense. What's the point of being on the roster if you can't do the job?

He was "rusty"? WTF is that? Doesn't he go to practice? Aren't we only 3 games into the season? Didn't he get to play in the preseason? How in the hell does he get so rusty that he's useless in three weeks?

Good point guys...

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I must spread some reputation around before giving it to you again but this is just plain common sense. What's the point of being on the roster if you can't do the job?

He was "rusty"? WTF is that? Doesn't he go to practice? Aren't we only 3 games into the season? Didn't he get to play in the preseason? How in the hell does he get so rusty that he's useless in three weeks?
I was watching the video clip that Darius Walker does and something in Gado's little interview caught my ear. Gado mentioned something about being happy to be on the team, yada, yada, and happy to be able to help the Texans get ready every week.

I would have to guess he hasn't been in any game-planning or updating of the plays installed by hearing that comment.

Having said that, I agree with y'all. If he's not ready mentally or physically, get somebody that is. Personally, I don't think he's very good anyways.
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I have a lot of faith in Matt Scaub and what he brings to our offense. I think he will be selective with his passes and minimize any mistakes. He's a smart kid who doesn't seem to get rattled. My question is, with Atlanta's terrible run defense, do you think Dayne and Gado can carry the running game? I f they can't, I fear we are in trouble. What do you think?
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What do I think?

I think if Dayne's ribs don't hold up, (and don't think for a second that the Falcons don't know about them) then there goes the running game. And then then there go the play actions. And then, there go the bootlegs.

Then, we're one dimensional, with nothing but backup receivers, tight ends, and fullbacks.

Oh yeah. We're going to win that game easily on Sunday.

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Edit: (And then, next week you get to come back and moan about Schaub being "Carresque", and Kubiak's play calling like Capers)

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What do I think?

I think if Dayne's ribs don't hold up, (and don't think for a second that the Falcons don't know about them) then there goes the running game. And then then there go the play actions. And then, there go the bootlegs.

Then, we're one dimensional, with nothing but backup receivers, tight ends, and fullbacks.

Oh yeah. We're going to win that game easily on Sunday.

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Edit: (And then, next week you get to come back and ***** about Schaub being "Carresque", and Kubiak being Capers)
Oh yee of little faith. I'm sure Dayne can wear some extra protection if he really needs it, but I doubt he needs it. He felt ready to play last Sunday, so with this extra week of rest his bruised ribs should be healed.
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