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Old 09-18-2007   #121
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Interesting assessment, T_C, but I think you're proliferating a common misconception about the Colts defense.

The "bunch of guys who left in the offseason" have all been replaced by bigger, faster, younger, more physical players who by all accounts (and certainly evident in the gameplay thus far) are better for our system and just plain more imposing than the players they've replaced.

Jason David and Nick Harper have been replaced by Kelvin Hayden and Marlin Jackson - gone is the 10-15 yard cushion that was once allowed for opposing team's WRs. These guys are fast and physical - Jackson especially shows potential to become a long-passer's worst nightmare with his propensity for interceptions.

The run game against the Colts is a much more painful endeavor this year thanks to a revived linebacker corps lead by the veteran MLB Gary Brackett. Brackett is now joined by Rob Morris and the extremely hard-hitting (as in "putting RBs flat on their backs from a full-on run") Freddy Keiaho. Factor in Bob Sanders as the headhunter and the porous run defense of last year's regular season is truly a thing of the past.

It's OK though - if people are surprised by the veracity of our D, it's not a bad thing.

Potential. We are talking a lot of potential on both defenses.

Your team is different when it is not in your dome. The defense usually is much better because they can get an early jump because of all of the noise. Your defense traditionally has been very different when it doesn't get an early lead.

I do not believe in the Colts defense yet. Given the long time strength of your offense and The Peyton's pact with the devil, your defensive stats and play should be much better. I do like the way your team is coached, and you do a great job drafting and acquiring free agents that fit what you do.

I think that this game is going to show a lot of things.
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I do not believe in the Colts defense yet.
I don't, either. They're a finesse defense. They were intimidated by Vince Young last Sunday. Once, Young lowered his shoulder into a Colt safety just to say, "I know you're afraid of me." On paper, there's no way Tennessee should be able to beat the Colts. But, the Titans were a dropped pass from a game winning FG attempt. And that's because they out hit the Colts in the 2nd half.

Thus far, the Texans have played two teams that are considered "physical". And they've whupped them both (whupped is a legitimate word here, Colt fans). Now, I don't know if the Texans will win this Sunday. But I do know that the Colts will realize that they were at a football game, and not a track meet, when they leave the field at Reliant.
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Check out this game cast:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_i...006&week=REG16

Texans 27, Colts 24

Andre Johnson had 4 receptions for 48 yards and 0 TDs.

This was after the Texans did operation shutdown of the the passing attack. They were abused by the Patriots, and Carr had his bell rung badly in the Raiders game (not officially because nobody wants to admit concussions) and had no viable backup, so they played dink and dunk and run the ball all day.

Would I like AJ in the game?

Of course.

Does his presence on the field make it more difficult for defenders even if he doesn't catch the ball?

Sure it does.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Some things to think about:


From last 2006 game.........

*As you already, pointed out AJ 4 for 48 yds (the passing attack was evenly distributed to other receivers)

*Dink and dunk potential only

*Owen Daniels not in the the game

*No return game

*No punting game

*2 of 3 Colt TD's Manning to Harrison (8 for 112 yds)

*18 Colts running plays

*Colts run defense weak

*Manning reading newspapers in the pocket

*Going into the game, Texans not really knowing or even thinking they have a significant chance of beating the Colts


This upcoming game..........

*Multiple new compliment of WR's

*QB with short/mid/long pass potential

*Potential speedsters x 2 return game

*Long and precision place kicking punter

*Manning/Harrison still main focus

*Texans rushing defense scarey (besides the fact that Colts pattern of around 20 or less rushing plays likely as seen on last weeks Tacks game).........with the Texans' pass rush looking to be waking up and also becoming scarey, the Texans likely able to take advantage of Colts one dimensional game

*Manning throwing away his newspaper and purchasing extra butt pads

*Colts rush defense not looking much stronger

*Going into the game, the Texans knowing and thinking that they can defeat the "Giant."


There's a new SHERIFF in town..........and it ain't the Colts...........not in our town............Manning, you WILL meet our RAGING BULLS.........and they Will MEAT you.

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Here, Cloak. Have some more koolaid.

And tell us what you know about PCL sprains...
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Here, Cloak. Have some more koolaid.

And tell us what you know about PCL sprains...
I'll try to be brief:

A posterior cruciate ligament injury is caused usually by a direct hit on the "shin bone" (tibia). In a "sprain," there is still some microtearing of the ligament. In a low grade injury labelled a sprain, there is usually NO KNEE JOINT INSTABILITY. There is minimal and short-lived swelling, stiffness and discomfort. Usually the knee is splinted in extension for about week with very early mobilization with quad and hamstring exercises........the strengthening of the quads is the most important part of the recovery. Without knowing exactly what grade of "low-grade" injury he really has sustained, it is difficult to prognosticate his return..........it could be any where from 1 week (very unlikely) to 4 weeks. After his MRI, we should hopefully gained additional truthful information.
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I think they can. Let's see what the rest of the guys are made of.

Q-tip is still in there and he will be spreading the ball around. The WR's and Owens will need to step it up a notch. Green and Dayne can run on the colts. The defense will hopefully slow them down and special teams will help with field position.

Oh yeah and RELIANT IS GOING TO BE ONE LOUD STADIUM on SUNDAY.
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I think they can. Let's see what the rest of the guys are made of.

Q-tip is still in there and he will be spreading the ball around. The WR's and Owens will need to step it up a notch. Green and Dayne can run on the colts. The defense will hopefully slow them down and special teams will help with field position.

Oh yeah and RELIANT IS GOING TO BE ONE LOUD STADIUM on SUNDAY.
just curiouis to why the nickname of Q-tip ??
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It's a cotton swab.

It's also reaching.
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yes, we have jacoby jones.
And yet JJ will once again be in the slot and Davis will be starting at the WR1 spot. Go figure. Eventually you're going to get it. This coach 1. picks players he knows over players with repataions. 2. Unless a stuation is at critical mass, he will always pick the vet over the rookie. As it should be there grass hopper.


Can they win ? Sure they can. Is it probable ? Everybody will pick agaisnt them in the national media. The Texans will try to run the ball and Indy will try to stop it with eight in the box. Indy will try to create as many turnovers as they can. The main hurt with the loss of Andre is not the TD production. He was the chain mover. He is our first down rain maker. And that probably directly led to his injury. So now, Kubiack is going to have to reach into his bag of tricks and find six plays that move the chains six times and sustain two long time consumming drives. We're better with overall depth. The Colts have all of their toys healthy this time. But there has been a general erosion of tallent on the Colts squad. Fletcher shutting down Gonzales in the slot will be a key to this game. I think if it was my Club, I give Shante Orr the start over Tony Ugoh. Also, the Colts coach responsible for getting Tony Ugoh up to speed this quickly after his senrior bowl performances deserves the assitant coach of the year honors. TBS, he had a great deal of trouble last week with Vanden Bosch, a quick footed speed rusher.

The bottom line is simply this: can we move the chains and can we get pressure straight up the middle on Manning ? He can't throw the ball if he's sitting on his keester. And can we move the chains without our rain maker ? The kiddos will have to take a giant leap forward to get it done. But they have the tallent to turn the NFL Gurus on their collective ears if they do it sunday. 3-0 to start off the year with a bloody nose for Peyton and the boys ? That there thingy is play off run territory my friends.
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I'll try to be brief:

A posterior cruciate ligament injury is caused usually by a direct hit on the "shin bone" (tibia). In a "sprain," there is still some microtearing of the ligament. In a low grade injury labelled a sprain, there is usually NO KNEE JOINT INSTABILITY. There is minimal and short-lived swelling, stiffness and discomfort. Usually the knee is splinted in extension for about week with very early mobilization with quad and hamstring exercises........the strengthening of the quads is the most important part of the recovery. Without knowing exactly what grade of "low-grade" injury he really has sustained, it is difficult to prognosticate his return..........it could be any where from 1 week (very unlikely) to 4 weeks. After his MRI, we should hopefully gained additional truthful information.

Thank you for the post Doc. As always great post.

O.K. the kids need the targets, I'm looking at it as the glass half full. They are going to get their oportunty to prove that they belong on the NFL stage.
We may not win sunday but this oportunty for the young recievers to prove themselves can only help the club over all. Sooner or later if we want the play off run they are going to have to make plays. I had nothing against Keenan McCadrel. He is a great pro. But if we're going to go with the young guys they must have thier targets in live action. That includes Walter. Now they are going to get that oportunity in spades. If they make the leap Sunday we're a NFL jugernaut. If they don't, we be paitient with them untill they do get it.
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And yet JJ will once again be in the slot and Davis will be starting at the WR1 spot. Go figure. Eventually you're going to get it. This coach 1. picks players he knows over players with repataions. 2. Unless a stuation is at critical mass, he will always pick the vet over the rookie. As it should be there grass hopper.
I was just watching the Panther game again and there's a great play that illustrates why this is the case.

Before the play starts, it looks like Schaub and Walter are having to help Jacoby get in the right position. Schaub goes back, 5 step drop. He's just about to release the ball and he doubleclutches, looks a bit confused for a split second, and then he throws the ball. Jacoby is flailing around trying to get to the ball but it falls incomplete.

I would almost be willing to bet that Jacoby was running the wrong route on that play. We're lucky that Schaub didn't throw to the spot that JJ was supposed to be at and get it picked off.

And that's why JJ's not WR2, yet. And that's why KW will be WR1 with AJ out. Guys have to be in the right places and Schaub has to be confident that they're going to be where they're supposed to be.
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But... I'm going to say this and you're going to laugh but...

We have no idea how good our offense is this year. It hasn't played more that 2.5 quarters, yet. Seriously. Our QB has only thrown 5 passes in the 4th quarter this year. (And he's completed all 5 of them.)
Our best running back only has 4 attempts in the 4th quarter so far because we've stuck in our 2nd string back to save the wear and tear on Ahman. In the second quarter, when it counts, Ahman is 12 attempts for 70 yards and a 5.8 yp and 5 first downs.

The Colts game should be the first game to really see what we have. We might not win it. The Colts are a great team. We're both better teams than we were last year. Don't expect a cakewalk.
I certainly DO NOT expect a cakewalk!

In my mind the Texans of Olde are a thing of the past.

There is a reason I registered here but not on any Saints or Titans forums the last three weeks. I know this game will be the biggest challenge the Colts have faced so far - and probably will face for a few weeks after.

The thing is that I think a lot of Colts fans (at least, Colts fans that didn't become Colts fans sometime during the last 5 months) can really appreciate the maligned-underdog-becomes-a-winner thing you guys are going through right now. Your team, even with Carr under center, have always conducted themselves with some class when we've played them before. You never saw those late hits or personal fouls that a lot of other lesser teams (*cough* jaguars *cough*) would pull out of frustration when playing the Colts, so any animosity is replaced with some genuine enthusiasm to see you guys turn it around.

Besides, Texans fans usually behave themselves when they come here. That's nice.
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I don't, either. They're a finesse defense. They were intimidated by Vince Young last Sunday. Once, Young lowered his shoulder into a Colt safety just to say, "I know you're afraid of me." On paper, there's no way Tennessee should be able to beat the Colts. But, the Titans were a dropped pass from a game winning FG attempt. And that's because they out hit the Colts in the 2nd half.
To be fair:

1.) Young lowering his shoulder into one of our safeties might have been to convey the message you said, but it just as likely could have been to say "Do you have any cookies? Me like cookies!"

2.) The Titans didn't lose by a meager 2 points because they out-hit our defense in the 2nd half. If that were true, they could have converted on the last play for a 1st down and gotten the chance for their miracle game-winning field goal.

No - they only lost by 2 because Vinatieri had an extra point blocked and muffed a 36-yard FG wide left, Dallas Clark dropped two important passes, and there was a blatant illegal contact not called on Reggie that otherwise could have resulted in 6.

Make no mistake - the Colts offense is the reason that game was so close. I don't mean to disrespect any Titans fans (they've got it bad enough already) but it was an off day for the Colts O and that is a fact.
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To be fair:

1.) Young lowering his shoulder into one of our safeties might have been to convey the message you said, but it just as likely could have been to say "Do you have any cookies? Me like cookies!"

2.) The Titans didn't lose by a meager 2 points because they out-hit our defense in the 2nd half. If that were true, they could have converted on the last play for a 1st down and gotten the chance for their miracle game-winning field goal.

No - they only lost by 2 because Vinatieri had an extra point blocked and muffed a 36-yard FG wide left, Dallas Clark dropped two important passes, and there was a blatant illegal contact not called on Reggie that otherwise could have resulted in 6.

Make no mistake - the Colts offense is the reason that game was so close. I don't mean to disrespect any Titans fans (they've got it bad enough already) but it was an off day for the Colts O and that is a fact.
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The thing is that I think a lot of Colts fans (at least, Colts fans that didn't become Colts fans sometime during the last 5 months) can really appreciate the maligned-underdog-becomes-a-winner thing you guys are going through right now. Your team, even with Carr under center, have always conducted themselves with some class when we've played them before. You never saw those late hits or personal fouls that a lot of other lesser teams (*cough* jaguars *cough*) would pull out of frustration when playing the Colts, so any animosity is replaced with some genuine enthusiasm to see you guys turn it around.

Besides, Texans fans usually behave themselves when they come here. That's nice.
Yeah, that's the problem with fairweather fans. They don't remember the long, lean years.

Have you heard, yet, if Morris and Keaiouaeio...uh... whatever... are playing this game?
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Have you heard, yet, if Morris and Keaiouaeio...uh... whatever... are playing this game?
No word on either has been released.

Keiaho was listed as questionable against the Titans and it was a last-minute decision to play Hagler instead, so I'm thinking he will play this Sunday.
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Default Re: Do we stand a chance against Colts without AJ?

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I was just watching the Panther game again and there's a great play that illustrates why this is the case.

Before the play starts, it looks like Schaub and Walter are having to help Jacoby get in the right position. Schaub goes back, 5 step drop. He's just about to release the ball and he doubleclutches, looks a bit confused for a split second, and then he throws the ball. Jacoby is flailing around trying to get to the ball but it falls incomplete.

I would almost be willing to bet that Jacoby was running the wrong route on that play. We're lucky that Schaub didn't throw to the spot that JJ was supposed to be at and get it picked off.

And that's why JJ's not WR2, yet. And that's why KW will be WR1 with AJ out. Guys have to be in the right places and Schaub has to be confident that they're going to be where they're supposed to be.
EXCELLENT point. I remember that play. I must spread the rep....
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