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Old 09-17-2007   #1
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Post What do you think of the intentional grounding call?

Surprised nobody brought up the intentional grounding call against Schaub in the 2nd quarter. The announcers disagreed with the call. I thought it was a bad call but that's not what bothered me.

I can accept a call made by an official, but he took a long time before throwing the flag. It looked like he didn't make the decision himself; he let the crowd influence him & then he threw the flag.

I've always felt that the NFL is the best officiated sport around, but that call was made the same way European hockey referees officiate games. If you're going to make the call-Make The Call!

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Old 09-17-2007   #2
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Disagreed with it, but who cares! I think the refs totally got swayed by the crowd and I thought there was some form of a time limit the ref had to throw a flag for a play on the field. I mean he waited at least 30 seconds to a minute after the play to throw the flag. That I have a problem with.
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Off topic but J.P. Losman has a really high pitched voice. It just now made me laugh.
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He was well past where the tackle lined up by at least 3 yards. Horrible call.

Thank goodness this now seems to be a team that's good enough to overcome the bad breaks, unlike the previous 5 years.
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Funny, forgot all about it. If we had lost though honestly I would be complaining a bit about everything. Winning made me forget about everything, even that Daniels fumble that cause the Panthers to go up by 14 so early.
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Surprised nobody brought up the intentional grounding call against Schaub in the 2nd quarter. The announcers disagreed with the call. I thought it was a bad call but that's not what bothered me.

I can accept a call made by an official, but he took a long time before throwing the flag. It looked like he didn't make the decision himself; he let the crowd influence him & then he threw the flag.

I've always felt that the NFL is the best officiated sport around, but that call was made the same way European hockey referees officiate games. If you're going to make the call-Make The Call!

What do you think?

we won. if we lost then it would be the topic of the day.
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Doen't matter what we thought of it. All that mattered is that they met the adversity of it and over came it. You're going to get bad calls on the road. For the record, I thought he met the requirements of being out of the tackle box.
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Well at least we won...look at how the Raiders lost, talk about a heartbreak.
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Default Re: What do you think of the intentional grounding call?

It was a bad call in every way . . but as Kubiak and Schaub are trying get across, it's how you respond to it that's important.

You gaff it off, and go on to the next play.
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It was a call! DOH!
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Like your taught in the military, Press On. Good teams move past mistakes.
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Default Re: What do you think of the intentional grounding call?

it was a pretty lame call that ultimately didn't mean anything in the grand scheme of the game.
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It was a bad call in every way . . but as Kubiak and Schaub are trying get across, it's how you respond to it that's important.

You gaff it off, and go on to the next play.
I agree. Bad call, but those happen to every team. I did like the way the Texans shrugged it off.
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Default Re: What do you think of the intentional grounding call?

terrible call, and it likely cost us an additional 4 points. Fortunetely, we didn't need those additional four points. The team took care of business, and stomped those tigers until they meowed little kittens.
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Default Re: What do you think of the intentional grounding call?

I think it was a bad call, but the delay in calling it was mainly due to the referees conferring to try to figure out where it was thrown from (which they did incorrectly) rather than getting swayed by the crowd. I've seen a lot of IG calls that take a while to get called, since refs need to confer.

It was strange to me at first that Kubiak didn't challenge it. Are coaches limited to 2 challenges (regardless of whether successful), or is it 2 unsuccessful challenges? I believe at that point, Kubiak had already challenged twice - one unsuccessful, one successful. Or, is this even a reviewable call?
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IM pretty sure you cant challenge penalties

And yes, you are given 2 challenges per game. If you get both right, you get a bonus challenge
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so is that you can throw outside of where the tackle lines up? or where the tackle currently stands of the field when the ball was released?
It is where the tackles originally line up. It was a horrible call.
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Like people have been saying for 5 years, winning changes everything.
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so is that you can throw outside of where the tackle lines up? or where the tackle currently stands of the field when the ball was released?

it's clear to everyone that he was throwing it away but that's the question i have. if it's where the tackle lines up then he was well outside of that area and the ref totally let the crowd pull his flag out 30 seconds after it happened. if it's where the tackle stands when he let it go then he was still inside of winston and it's a good call. don't care either way but clarification on the rule would be nice...

Where he lines up when the ball is snapped.
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It is where the tackles originally line up. It was a horrible call.
I agree. It had to have been a bad call because the wife even noticed he was outside the "tackle box".

It was a bad call, but the boyz stepped up, overcame and continued with the thumping.
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