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Old 09-13-2007   #21
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No theres not. I already thought we settled this medically?

Mario's workout performances completely invalidate any of the slow-twitch fast-twitch crap that permeated the media for a while

Slow twitch muscle are aerobic, slow fatiguing, high strength muscles and fast twitch muscles are anaerobic, quickly fatiguing, quick bursts of energy muscles.

Mario would never have been able to put up his combine numbers if he was predominately a "slow-twitch" kind of guy.

Additionally, EVERYone has both types. At most, you may posses 75-80% of one type, but everyone has both. And there is good evidence that the numbers switch depending on what you train for.

I simply don't buy into the fast twitch slow twitch medical prognosis on Mario Williams. I've seen him fly off the ball, and I've seen him get pancaked from being too slow. I dont think muscle fiber has anything to do with it. I think its primarily football instict, and thats something Mario doesnt seem to have yet

If you want to speculate that his muscles use the wrong energy source and therefore he'll never be a great pass rusher, thats your own perogative. But the fact that he can dominate one game and then disappear the next screams technique, motivation, and instinct to me. I believe my eyes, not some sports writers whose job it is to critique the Texans every move
Been around athletes and sports my whole life....There is a difference in the way people move that has everything to do with fast and slow twitch...

I pretty much think your whole post is flat out wrong, but I won't get into it...

It doesn't really matter...

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My wife complains about my fast twitch muscle. I tell her that some folk run marathons, others are sprinters.
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The poor man will have more sacks this game I think
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My wife complains about my fast twitch muscle. I tell her that some folk run marathons, others are sprinters.
what, are we in a comedy club?
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if you can actually describe to me what you mean by "football instinct" i'm sure i'll have a retort to it...but until then...
tons of players aren't "instinctive" on the field. David Carr was one of them as a quick example of someone who has an obvious lack of instinct on the field. He really had no good feel for the pocket, struggled reading defenses and had to think about all his decisions to the point where it hampered his natural abilities. Mario isn't instinctive either. He has struggled to learn basic leverage and hasn't shown a great feel for the games nuances yet.

DeMeco Ryans is a good example of a player with great instincts. He can digest a play quickly and puts his body in the right spot to make a play over and over. Morlon Greenwood is just as fast as DeMeco but he isn't as instinctive and he doesn't get to as many plays, or gets in position to make as many impact plays.
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The poor man will have more sacks this game I think
He (Mario) won't have any sacks this week.
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He (Mario) won't have any sacks this week.
Because your blocking him, right?


Put David Carr in there. Mario will have at least one sack and he will not even have to tackle DC.
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He'd kill me, but Jordan Gross is a very solid tackle, if he can't handle him alone, then they'll roll someone else to help or chip. He doesn't have the benefit of coming from Jake's blind side either. Ryan Kalil will likely be able to help as well, if needed.
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He'd kill me, but Jordan Gross is a very solid tackle, if he can't handle him alone, then they'll roll someone else to help or chip. He doesn't have the benefit of coming from Jake's blind side either. Ryan Kalil will likely be able to help as well, if needed.
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As I watch the games from my recliner, I rarely equate my skills to those in the NFL...ok...I NEVER equate my skills to those in the NFL and people who do...make me sick.
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He'd kill me, but Jordan Gross is a very solid tackle, if he can't handle him alone, then they'll roll someone else to help or chip. He doesn't have the benefit of coming from Jake's blind side either. Ryan Kalil will likely be able to help as well, if needed.
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He'd kill me, but Jordan Gross is a very solid tackle, if he can't handle him alone, then they'll roll someone else to help or chip. He doesn't have the benefit of coming from Jake's blind side either. Ryan Kalil will likely be able to help as well, if needed.
They have been having him move around a little depending on match ups and situations. So he could, at least part of the time, be coming from his blind side.
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Right now Peppers is an elite DE and Williams is a young player with loads of potential and very well could see a few pro bowls in the years to come himself. Too bad we could have had both of these guys...but oh well.
If the Texans had drafted Peppers instead of Carr in 2002, we probably wouldn't have been in that 2005 mess to pick #1 to get Mario Williams.

Which probably would have meant not getting Kubiak when we got him.

It's strange how things work out, but sometimes things work for the better in the long run. Take the bad with the good. Take your lumps. I think you get it...

And I will stick by this, PLAYERS MAKE COACHES, not the other way around. Most recent example, Charlie Weis.
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, PLAYERS MAKE COACHES, not the other way around. Most recent example, Charlie Weis.
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And I will stick by this, PLAYERS MAKE COACHES, not the other way around. Most recent example, Charlie Weis.
What are you saying? I hope you are not referring to how he is doing while at ND currently, because that would show a lack of College football knowledge.
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What are you saying? I hope you are not referring to how he is doing while at ND currently, because that would show a lack of College football knowledge.
Dont be so tough on hollywood...LA doesnt have a real college team.
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Dont be so tough on hollywood...LA doesnt have a real college team.
Cmon now, UCLA is a pretty solid team!
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David Carr was one of them as a quick example of someone who has an obvious lack of instinct on the field.
Well sure he does!! Unfortunately for Dorothy (his new nickname tabbed by someone other than me) it's bad instincts such as the Fresno tuck.....Never had to much bad to say about him, but when I saw his haircut and those white gloves I sure was glad he was no longer on our bench. If I was his teammates I would hold him down and shave his head.
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