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Old 09-01-2007   #1
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Default Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

The Texans traded defensive end Jason Babin to Seattle today for safety Michael Boulware.

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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

Just saw that. I hate to see Babin go, but the safety position needed shoring up.
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

Just saw it too. My first reaction is EEEK! I was hoping Babin was finally settling into a spot, but I guess the coaches have given up some of that hope.

We definitely NEED a safety, but was this move worth it?


Not exactly a GLOWING endorsement.

"The Seahawks' safety gave up a team-high seven touchdown passes last season, according to statistical service StatsPass, while serving as a primary target for opponents on a Seattle defense that surrendered a whopping 55 plays of at least 20 yards."

"The fourth-year veteran and second-round draft choice in 2004 from Florida State was anything but blessed in '06. He lost a starting job for the first time in his life, spending half of the 16 regular season games as a substitute and on special teams. The lowest point came Dec. 24 when San Diego's Vincent Jackson slipped behind him for a 37-yard touchdown with 29 seconds left to give the Chargers a 20-17 win.

After that game, Boulware openly cried in the locker room. Yes, he was a target last season. Opposing offenses exploited his tendency to play like the college linebacker he was and not the NFL safety he is. And Seahawks fans directed their ire at him for Seattle's penchant to give up huge plays."
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

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Just saw it too. My first reaction is EEEK! I was hoping Babin was finally settling into a spot, but I guess the coaches have given up some of that hope.

We definitely NEED a safety, but was this move worth it?
I think with the emergence of Orr and Cocharn, plus Kalu and Weaver (when he reurns) and then Mario I think this was a move we could defiantly afford to make.

I've been a Boulware fan since he entered the draft.
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

Wow, I guess Kubiak's talk of MOVES did mean a trade was coming.
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

Wait, wait, wait..

HARRISON IR'd?!
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

Holy ****!

HOLY ****!

Boy, was I wrong on that one. I didn't figure there was any way in the world they'd pull a deal off like that at this stage.

Man alive.
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

Wow, I am not sure what to think as I don't anything about Boulware.

Anyone have insight on the caliber of player this guys is?

Babin was having a pretty good pre-season I thought, I really hope it was worth it On the flip side, I am glad we added a safety if he's good.
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

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We definitely NEED a safety, but was this move worth it?
Like they say, you have to give up something to get something.

Look at the bright side. Most of you were declaring Babin a bust in earlier seasons anyway. Would you ever have dreamed that they could get Boulware for Babin staight up?

Don't think so.
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Wait, wait, wait..

HARRISON IR'd?!
Between the "supposed" hammy pull and the concusion he suffered last week (or was it Mitchell) not overly shocking, might be better for us then to try and sneak him across the waiver wire.
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

wow...pretty shocking. Babin has been one of our best pass rushers. It's time for Mario to step up!

I like that we're getting a quality safety, though. It has been one of the weakest aspects of the team.
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Just saw it too. My first reaction is EEEK! I was hoping Babin was finally settling into a spot, but I guess the coaches have given up some of that hope.

We definitely NEED a safety, but was this move worth it?
Michael Boulware is a freak....dude has great size and is a big hitter (converted linebacker out of college...I actually wanted to draft him)....but gives up tons of big plays in space. He's been a big disappointment in Seattle....frankly I kinda like the trade however. We could use the run support since I wasn't impressed at all with CC Brown as a SS. We will still have issues with safety play in space/coverage. I don't know if I'd call him a "quality safety" though....he is a physical freak (great speed for his size) however.

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Michael Boulware is a freak....dude has great size and is a big hitter (converted linebacker out of college...I actually wanted to draft him)....but gives up tons of big plays in space. He's been a big disappointment in Seattle....frankly I kinda like the trade however. We could use the run support since I wasn't impressed at all with CC Brown as a SS. We will still have issues with safety play in space/coverage. I don't know if I'd call him a "quality safety" though....he is a physical freak (great speed for his size) however.
Yup he's pretty much a Roy Williams clone. Played LB at FSU (I think?), and I think he is defiantly now the best safety on our roster, but he is a SS.

I still like this deal alot, mainly because I think Boulware is better then all of our safties and I think Orr will make a better pass Down DE (as he is much better in spave then Babin).
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6'3" 220...very nice. I hope he can do more than just be a runstopper.
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

i really like this trade but the other DLineman are goign to have to step up!
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Michael Boulware is a freak....dude has great size and is a big hitter (converted linebacker out of college...I actually wanted to draft him)....but gives up tons of big plays in space. He's been a big disappointment in Seattle....frankly I kinda like the trade however. We could use the run support since I wasn't impressed at all with CC Brown as a SS. We will still have issues with safety play in space/coverage. I don't know if I'd call him a "quality safety" though....he is a physical freak (great speed for his size) however.
yeah, he was benched last October for giving up too many big plays. My perception of 'quality' is that they are better than what we've got, but it's not like pro-bowl quality or anything.

I think he'll give us good run support, but I'm still concerned about our pass defense considering we can barely muster a pass rush and just traded what is arguably the best pass rusher on the team.
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Default Re: Texans trade Babin for safety Boulware !

I thiught the team needed more of a FS versus SS? I have not seen many Seattle games, so I am not sure either on his play.
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Good move.

Boulware is a solid player.

Shows that the coaches are not worried about the defensive line also.

Smith and Kubiak sure aren't afraid to make moves. Smart moves also.
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No, you can't run on our D, but just take the snap and immediately chunk a bomb as deep down-field as you can, because a receiver will catch it.

I said FREE-safety!

All-in-all, I guess this makes our team a little bit better, but I'm sure getting tired of hard-hitting DBs who can't cover receivers.
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