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Old 08-27-2007   #1
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Default The Cuts to 55 are gonna be brutal!

I was just looking at the roster/depth chart and wow! Kubiak is gonna have some very tough decisions to make on friday.

Some of the shocking possiblities I noticed were Mccardell and Bethel Johnson may not make it.

And if they count Mckinney as a guard spot briesel or weary are gonna have to go. If they count him at the center spot chris white, who we all heard was the shocker of the offseason might not make it.

All across the board we are really deep except for defensive secondary, there we still have a log jam, but of equally mediocre players.

It's gonna be really tough to cut down to 55.

btw how many people do we get to put on the practice squad?
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what's going to be interesting - and maybe fun in a twisted sort of way - is to see who rummages around in our discard pile and grabs our cut victims. And where those cut victims end up on those teams' depth charts. I'll be curious to see if any of our cut-tees ended up as 2nd stringers.

In years past, if you didn't make the Texans (with a few exceptions), you were pretty much done
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lol, you think weary is in jeopardy of getting cut? Since when do teams cut their starters exactly?

We don't have good depth at any position really. We have an amazing number of 3rd stringers. We have a few 1sts, a few 2nds, and mostly 3rds.

We will field a good team with nice competition, but don't for a second think that the players we let go are going to sign mutli year deals with loads of other teams

the reason most of those guys are here in the 1st place is that we are one of the few teams who actually needed their services
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You must be mistaken with Weary because he's our starting RG. No way does Weary get the boot. But you're right about this being a tough cut, the competition is incredible this year compared to previous teams.

Here's some of my cuts....
1. P Stanley...worst clutch punter I've seen
2. FB Cook...fumbilitious costs him his job
3. McCardell...would be great to keep but a one way veteran with no ST play, thus Bethal Johnson gets to stay
4. Alfred Malone/Tim Bulman....too far down the depth chart on d-line
5. Trent Bray....weakest player of a strong LB unit
6. Dexter Wynn....JJ just took your job as punt returner
7. Dexter McCleon/John Walker....not good enough on a bad DB unit
8. Bryan Pittman or Joel Dreessen.....only 1 long snapper needed

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Abbatte, Lundy, Frye, Castaneda and Harrison...all projects who could become quality players next year...except Castaneda. He has to stay on the PS per league rules.
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Is Lundy still practice squad eligible?

Regardless if he is, I see a team with a extremely shallow RB core picking him up.
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Lundy played on the Active Roster all of last year; he is not eligible for PS.
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You must be mistaken with Weary because he's our starting RG. No way does Weary get the boot. But you're right about this being a tough cut, the competition is incredible this year compared to previous teams.

Here's some of my cuts....
1. P Stanley...worst clutch punter I've seen
2. FB Cook...fumbilitious costs him his job
3. McCardell...would be great to keep but a one way veteran with no ST play, thus Bethal Johnson gets to stay
4. Alfred Malone/Tim Bulman....too far down the depth chart on d-line
5. Trent Bray....weakest player of a strong LB unit
6. Dexter Wynn....JJ just took your job as punt returner
7. Dexter McCleon/John Walker....not good enough on a bad DB unit
8. Bryan Pittman or Joel Dreessen.....only 1 long snapper needed

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Abbatte, Lundy, Frye, Castaneda and Harrison
...all projects who could become quality players next year...except Castaneda. He has to stay on the PS per league rules.
As stated before, Lundy is not PS eligible. Harrison is listed as our 2nd string SS behind Simmons, so he stays. Also, if they try to put Frye on the PS, he may get picked up by another team. That applys to Zabransky too. But, they may have no choice but to try and put them on the PS. As for Abbatte, I thought he would win the #2 FB position, and he is still listed as their #2 on the depth chart.
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I am down to 55 pretty easy and could be at 53 easily if I did not feel that Kubiak is sweet for a couple of folks. Waiting for the Bucs game until I post mine.
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I don't think they will put Abbate on practice.

he's set as the #2 on the depth chart and is making less than Cook and Pass (if he gets a contract).

They'll keep Lundy as an option on offence, and put Walker on PS because if nobody took him in the draft what incentive would they have now.

Zabransky stays active as #3.
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I think some of our guys will develop a mysterious injury that will land them on IR; i.e. Zabransky.

Abbate should probably PS. I would rather keep Pass active this year while Abbate learns.

I have no issues cutting Lundy and keeping Gado. I would prefer to cut Dayne, but that's not going to happen.

Also, say buh bye Stanley and McCardell.
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I don't think they will put Abbate on practice.

he's set as the #2 on the depth chart and is making less than Cook and Pass (if he gets a contract).

They'll keep Lundy as an option on offence, and put Walker on PS because if nobody took him in the draft what incentive would they have now.

Zabransky stays active as #3.
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I think some of our guys will develop a mysterious injury that will land them on IR; i.e. Zabransky.

Abbate should probably PS. I would rather keep Pass active this year while Abbate learns.

I have no issues cutting Lundy and keeping Gado. I would prefer to cut Dayne, but that's not going to happen.

Also, say buh bye Stanley and McCardell.
I believe Patrick Pass was let go yesterday.
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Default Re: The Cuts to 55 are gonna be brutal!

I dont think we will keep Zabransky on the active roster, probably PS. Kubiak is fine with 2 QB's most of the time. I also dont think we will keep 2 active fullbacks, we have to many guys that can fill in at fullback from other positions. So I think both pass and cook are gonners. I think the game this week will decide alot of the rest. All the brandons are fighting for PS spots.
I think lundy is gone and walker makes the PS, that will be decided this week too. Cook actually looked decent in the Dallas game but I'm not sure how he's been doing in practice. For that matter we havent seen alot of Abate either.

I don't think alot of these potential cuts are gonna start anywhere, but quite a few have played very hard in camp. I guess that's what they are their for though.
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I dont think we will keep Zabransky on the active roster, probably PS. Kubiak is fine with 2 QB's most of the time.
Former Boise State quarterback Jared Zabransky's quest to make the Houston Texans as a rookie free agent got a major boost Sunday. The Texans waived quarterbacks Quinton Porter and Bradlee Van Pelt on Sunday, leaving just three quarterbacks on their roster — starter Matt Schaub, reserve Sage Rosenfels and Zabransky.
Zabransky, Boise State's starter for the past three seasons, is 1-for-4 for 19 yards this preseason and has appeared in only one game. Houston plays Thursday at Tampa Bay and it will be his last chance to audition for a spot on the club.
"We're definitely going to play Zabransky a great deal in this game," coach Gary Kubiak said during a Sunday press conference. Kubiak said Schaub may not play in the game.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsup...ry/143101.html
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And the paste above is from the Boise paper as indication that a lot of people
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I was just looking at the roster/depth chart and wow! Kubiak is gonna have some very tough decisions to make on friday.

Some of the shocking possiblities I noticed were Mccardell and Bethel Johnson may not make it.

And if they count Mckinney as a guard spot briesel or weary are gonna have to go. If they count him at the center spot chris white, who we all heard was the shocker of the offseason might not make it.

All across the board we are really deep except for defensive secondary, there we still have a log jam, but of equally mediocre players.

It's gonna be really tough to cut down to 55.

btw how many people do we get to put on the practice squad?
Weary is gonna have to go? You cannot be serious. I stopped reading right there.
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Pre Bucs game:

QB: Schaub,Rosy
RB: Green,Dayne,Gado
FB: Leach, Abbate
WR: AJ,KW,JJ,AD,JM,David Anderson
TE: Daniels,Putzier,Bruener
OT: Salaam,Winston,Frye
OG: Weary,Pitts,Briesel,Studdard
C: McKinney, Flannagan,White

DE: Mario, Weaver, Babin, Kalu, Cochran
DT: Okoye, TJ, Maddox, Zgonina
OLB: Greenwood, Clark, Barber, Anderson, Orr
MLB: Demeco, Diles
CB: Dunta,Faggins,Fletcher,Bennett
SS: Simmons, Harrison, Mitchel
FS: Brown, Hutchins

K: Brown
P: Turk
LS: Pittman

Currently my roster is at 54.

-Between Pittman and Flannagan I don't know who'd I'd let walk. Preferably it'd be Flannagan.

-Anderson makes the team over McCardell and Bethel

- Orr Makes the team for his pass rushing
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I don't think they will put Abbate on practice.

he's set as the #2 on the depth chart and is making less than Cook and Pass (if he gets a contract).

They'll keep Lundy as an option on offence, and put Walker on PS because if nobody took him in the draft what incentive would they have now.

Zabransky stays active as #3.
With this year's depth, I think they'll definitely take advantage of the P.S... Zabransky, Abbate, Walker?, Frye?, B.Harrison? could all be there...

To anyone in the know, does Chris White have practice squad eligibility left? I would think that will determine whether he backs up McKinney and Flanagan gets released.
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Pre Bucs game:

QB: Schaub,Rosy
RB: Green,Dayne,Gado
FB: Leach, Abbate
WR: AJ,KW,JJ,AD,JM,David Anderson
TE: Daniels,Putzier,Bruener
OT: Salaam,Winston,Frye
OG: Weary,Pitts,Briesel,Studdard
C: McKinney, Flannagan,White

DE: Mario, Weaver, Babin, Kalu, Cochran
DT: Okoye, TJ, Maddox, Zgonina
OLB: Greenwood, Clark, Barber, Anderson, Orr
MLB: Demeco, Diles
CB: Dunta,Faggins,Fletcher,Bennett
SS: Simmons, Harrison, Mitchel
FS: Brown, Hutchins

K: Brown
P: Turk
LS: Pittman

Currently my roster is at 54.

-Between Pittman and Flannagan I don't know who'd I'd let walk. Preferably it'd be Flannagan.

-Anderson makes the team over McCardell and Bethel

- Orr Makes the team for his pass rushing

1. I don't think Anderson makes the roster
2. Cook makes the team and Abbate goes to P.S.- that makes the most sense depth wise
3. Chris White goes to P.S. if eligible... if he's not, I think Flanagan gets the ax (we only keep 9 olmen)
4. I think Zguniga gets released if we keep 7 LBs because he doesn't play STs, unless he makes it as a deep snapper...
5. Secondary looks right except I think a safety not on the roster takes a spot from Harrison and Harrison goes to the practice squad.
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I think he is still eligible. He was active for one game in 2005 and 7 in 2006. It appears he was not on the practice squad in 2005 (some sort of inactive injury list) but was in 2006. If that is correct he should still be eligible. If he was on Green Bay's practice squad in 2005 then he will not be eligible.
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"Orr Makes the team for his pass rushing"
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But with Orrs success vs the Cowboys the other night from the weakside edge, does that not make him a swing-player for OLB-DEs and also make one of those other LBs or Ends even more expendable ?
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For those of you thinking McCardell will get cut, can he be let go if he has a nagging injury that occurred in training camp? He hasn't played much due to an injury, so I am just purely speculating that he may not be able to be cut. Anyone know the rule?
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