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View Poll Results: Which scenario would you prefer?
Reality- Matt Schaub and Mario Williams 67 82.72%
Fantasy- Vince Young and 2 second rounders 14 17.28%
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Old 08-27-2007   #1
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Default What could have been...

Okay guys, I know it's still a little premature for this question, but as of right now would you rather have VY and two second round picks, or Matt Schaub along with Mario? I know we'll never know who would come of those two picks, but with our apparant success with mostly anything beyond the first round in the last two years, I'd say we'd get at least one good player out of it. Do you guys remember who was left in the second round when Atlanta picked for us this year? Just assume we picked who you would have taken with that pick and vote.
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please god let it go
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Old 08-27-2007   #3
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Default Re: What could have been...

AAAAHHHHHGGGGG!

Damn...not again!

Um, what if the Oilers had never left?
What if Bum had never been fired?
What if the South had won the war?
What if your aunt had nads?

Bottom line; it doesn't matter...VY is not (and will probably never will be a Texan), so why even ask? Build a bridge; get over it.

Not trying to be harsh, but what the hell good does a post like this do? All indications are that we have a helluva QB, a nice pickup in JJ, and a chance to do something this franchise has never done (Win, baby!)

Nothing else really matters!
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yes, please...
make it STOP!!

what POSSIBLE purpose does this poll serve??
other than to keep...
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I vote to have kept David Carr. And to retain Casserly as GM, Capers as head coach, and make Victor Riley our franchise left tackle.
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Default Re: What could have been...

Whats the big deal? The funniest thing in the world to me is that people who don't like the thread are the only ones who have even posted. Guess how you let a thread go? You don't post in it. Then it fades away. By posting you bring it to attention

I have no problem with the poll. And you shouldn't either. Its a simple thing to read the thread and move on
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Schaub will make Houston forget/forgive them for not taking VY. Schaubby any day of the week because he can actually get the ball to our recievers.
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Whats the big deal? The funniest thing in the world to me is that people who don't like the thread are the only ones who have even posted. Guess how you let a thread go? You don't post in it. Then it fades away. By posting you bring it to attention

I have no problem with the poll. And you shouldn't either. Its a simple thing to read the thread and move on
We're voicing our opinion on the thread. What's wrong with that?

I don't want to hear any more about how we should have taken this guy or we should have taken that guy or we shouldn't have picked this guy or we shouldn't have taken that guy or blah blah blah. And this thread is my opportunity for me to vote without voting that we stop dwelling on the past and start looking forward to the future. If me (or the people who felt like me) had just ignored this thread and moved on, then that would be tacit approval for something I don't agree with.

That you don't agree with my disagreement is fine. And I've got no problem with keeping the thread alive. And I didn't negative rep the guy for asking the question. But I've used this thread to voice my opinion on the ideas behind it and THAT'S a good enough reason for me for this thread to remain alive for just a tad longer.
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I'd prefer to support the team we've got, not some fantasy that some might wish could have been.

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Default Re: What could have been...

If you want to continue to talk about VY...go the the Titans boards, or atleast take it to the NFL Section.

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Default Re: What could have been...

Ok, this poll isn't going to change the past. I enjoy looking at "what if's" every now and again. I understand those that don't like this thread because it can be tiring to hear the whole RB and VY debate-> very tiring. But i'm going to have to side with gtexan on this one....this is just a hey what do you think kinda poll, its not the normal texans are dumb VY is god kinda thing....everyone has their opinion but I do find when I there is a thread that irritates me...it ends up getting pushed back to page2 and nobody ever sees it again.

Getting back to the question at hand since I will humor this... I would have to vote Matt Schaub and Mario Williams. I think Schaub is exactly what this team needs in a QB in every aspect. I also think Mario is going to slowly develop and be a huge impact player for this team. I'm not predicting he averages 10 sacks a year but I'm predicting he shuts down the run and puts pressure on the QB a lot. no need to debate #1 overall cuz i'd take him over VY which I was really questioning myself why VY was doing well.. I will admit that : )

Another more viable option i think, would be Matt Schaub and Reggie Bush. But having Andre, Jacoby, Walter, Owen Daniels, and Reggie Bush at Schaub's disposal would be crazy. I would still like the Ahman signing- thats big for us. Green and Bush would have been sweet.

At least this is what im thinking as of 8/28/08 at 9:52 am. thoughts subject to change at any time without notice
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Default Re: What could have been...

I have been thinking about the 'What Ifs' and right now I really don't know.

I too am tired of talking about this but i'll throw my opinion on the matter.

The Positives with having VY is we would have had VY and Demeco, not to mention we would have probably drafted a RB 1st or second round in the 07 draft to help out VY. VY is a hometown guy, with a lot of love for Houston obviously and a passion for the game. The negatives... VY and tons of scrabling QBs still have to prove that they can win the big one. Also these QBs seem to have the career span of a RB...which is bad for QBs.

The positives of what we have now...well Matt Schaub is a more traditional QB. He gets the job done and also he is just like any other Rookie QB...except he's held the clipboard for a few years and played in a couple of NFL games. Its like how some people want Quinn to sit instead of throwing him out there to learn from his mistakes.
With Mario we have a guy whose potential says "HOF DE" now not saying he's going to be that, but that is what is expected of him and that's been his potential. I think great pass rushers are harder to come by than RBs...
All that talk about how there wasn't going to be another Reggie Bush...well Peterson came out and some were saying he was better than Bush. When McFadden comes out he will be all the rage.

So I have to say I rather support the team we have instead of some 'What if' team. Also so far, I am proud with how we are doing although it is only preseason...I am excited this year and I was thinking 8-8 or 9-7 before that Cowboys game. After that I am thinking 10-6...seriously. I seriously think 10-6 is a possibllity and if that happens, our fans can stop asking "What if we had him" and start asking "When will we win the superbowl."
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Since I never wanted VY or Reggie Bush, this is a flawed premise.
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If my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle!

I picked Schaub and Williams because iiwii.

The 'what if' game is fun to a point, but then we'd have Julius Peppers on our team and would be saying David Carr who?
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If my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle!

I picked Schaub and Williams because iiwii.

The 'what if' game is fun to a point, but then we'd have Julius Peppers on our team and would be saying David Carr who?
lol DB with the nuts joke

Let's play the "what if" game. What if we convinced Michael Vick to stay in college one more year. We wouldn't have David Carr or Mike Vick. Schaub would be somewhere else. I like how things turned out.

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If my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle!

I picked Schaub and Williams because iiwii.

The 'what if' game is fun to a point, but then we'd have Julius Peppers on our team and would be saying David Carr who?
Nice!

By the way...what does "iiwii" mean?
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By the way...what does "iiwii" mean?

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Matt Schaub and Vince Young are a wash to me and I wouldn't trade Mario and his potential for 2 second round picks.

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I wanted Vince Young.

In my mind, the stars aligned themselves so that we could take Vince with the first overall pick in the 2006 draft. I think he's going to be a much better QB than any Titan fan can imagine.

But oh well. He's not a Texan. We've beat Peyton Manning(albeit only once in 6 attempts) & we beat the Titans both times in '06(in my mind anyway).

I am not in the least bit upset that we didn't take Vince in the draft... it was the right decision to pass on him. We had already made a huge commitment to that position, earlier in the offseason.

Now that decision really lights a fire under my butt.

But it's been corrected.

We are now a football team with one goal, from top to bottom. Winning the SuperBowl. We aren't waiting for our QB to come around, or our defense to become dominate, or for our OL to learn how to protect our QB, or open holes for our RBs.

It's do or die. Either you get the job done, or you're out of herr.

And that's all I want. I don't care who is on the roster, as long as they deliver what they promise. Professional level quality football.
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