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Old 08-29-2007   #81
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Up to you to figure out what that reason was.
Maybe it was all that satin that Carr was draped in.
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Our gameplanning is going to be way different this year.

No more run, run, pass. I am sure that with Schaub they can open up the playbook more. Which in turn means that the defenses cannot pin their ears back on our offensive line on passing downs. Although, I don't think our team will convert many 3rd and longs. Our o-line isn't built to hold their blocks that long. We should see many deep dropbacks, IMO.
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I am so happy to have a QB who can stand in the pocket, read the defense, and deliver a catchable pass to the receiver. After watching years and years of David Carr it's a nice change to have a real quarterback on the team.
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The only regular season game I've looked at is the last Colts game and it might not be representative but over half our passes were 5 and 7 step drops. People talk about all the quick release throws, the roll outs, and the 3 step drops we had to run because our line was so bad... but we didn't do that as often as people think we did.

I also looked at the drops that we ran against the Bears in the first pre-season game, and the percentages were similar to the Colts game.

I'll look at the Cowboy game later tonight.
You know, it seemed to me Schaub was not dropping back and firing far downfield. Do let me know if you find something different. In a casual review of game logs, I only found two "deep" completions, both in the AZ game. I know it is a bad correlation between steps-back and deep balls, but I would assume you at least need more time to step back and launch that ball downfield. Maybe not.
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I wish the Cowboys would get a little better...

Then we could have a Texas Super Bowl this year!


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You know, it seemed to me Schaub was not dropping back and firing far downfield. Do let me know if you find something different. In a casual review of game logs, I only found two "deep" completions, both in the AZ game. I know it is a bad correlation between steps-back and deep balls, but I would assume you at least need more time to step back and launch that ball downfield. Maybe not.
Just going through the Cowboys game, I came up with 8 types of drops used:

1 Step - 2 - 6% - This was used on the TD to Andre.
3 Step - 7 - 21% - We did use this more against the Cowboys
3+2 Step - 2 - 6% - This was used on the TD to DA. 3 steps, pump, then 2 more steps and throw. Not a classic 5 step.
5 Step - 11 - 33% - Our bread and butter.
5+2 Step - 1 - 3% - We used this on a TE screen. 5 Steps back, pause, 2 steps to invite the rush, then throw.
7 Step - 5 - 15% - We even went 7 steps with an empty backfield.
Rollout - 2 - 6% - We didn't run this as often as normal. TTP might be right.
Shotgun+3 - 3 - 9% - Lined up in the shotgun, three steps and throw. The sack was actually on one of these. We also had a procedure call on one of these.

I counted even plays that were nullified because of penalties.

We used the 3 step more this game than against the Colts last year.

If I get some time, I'll try to go through and do this with the AZ game.
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Just going through the Cowboys game, I came up with 8 types of drops used:

1 Step - 2 - 6% - This was used on the TD to Andre.
3 Step - 7 - 21% - We did use this more against the Cowboys
3+2 Step - 2 - 6% - This was used on the TD to DA. 3 steps, pump, then 2 more steps and throw. Not a classic 5 step.
5 Step - 11 - 33% - Our bread and butter.
5+2 Step - 1 - 3% - We used this on a TE screen. 5 Steps back, pause, 2 steps to invite the rush, then throw.
7 Step - 5 - 15% - We even went 7 steps with an empty backfield.
Rollout - 2 - 6% - We didn't run this as often as normal. TTP might be right.
Shotgun+3 - 3 - 9% - Lined up in the shotgun, three steps and throw. The sack was actually on one of these. We also had a procedure call on one of these.

I counted even plays that were nullified because of penalties.

We used the 3 step more this game than against the Colts last year.

If I get some time, I'll try to go through and do this with the AZ game.
Thanks. Good info. IIUC, over 30% of the passes were three-step or less or roll-outs. The five-step was over 40%, and the remainder were shotguns and the great seven-stepper. But less than half these passes were made by Schaub and the first team. I suspect the numbers will shift when looking only at Matt's performance. Thanks again for collecting the info.
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Thanks. Good info. IIUC, over 30% of the passes were three-step or less or roll-outs. The five-step was over 40%, and the remainder were shotguns and the great seven-stepper. But less than half these passes were made by Schaub and the first team. I suspect the numbers will shift when looking only at Matt's performance. Thanks again for collecting the info.
I've got it set up so I can break it down by Schaub vs. Rosenfels.

BUt a little over half of these throws were Schaub; Schaub had 16 attempts to Sage's 13 (my numbers slightly higher).
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