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Who should be our two starting DT?

Okoye - our current starting RDT. I don't think Okoye has earn the rights to start. He shown little flashes in pre-season. Is only 19 years old and body still maturing, I don't think he should be thrown in the fire against bigger, stronger players at his young age.

Maddox - our starting LDT. Played pretty solid last year. Haven't watched him in the two pre-season, so don't know he playing so far.

TJ - Playing alot better then years before, showing good pressure in the two pre-season games. Our best dlinemen this preseason IMO, even though it was against 2nd String players. Will get some plays against the one this week to see if he can get the some results against the starting one Oline.
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Don't mean to be picky, but Okoye had a birthday over the summer.

and Okoye is GOING TO BE A STARTER, thats just the way today's NFL works. The kid makes too much money to sit. High #1s don't sit, they get snaps and a chance to gain live game experience and a chance to prove themselves......They get thrown into the fire, sink or swim.

The only position you will see drafted high that might sit is the quarterback and thats because some teams don't want to wreck a players confidence (who plays the most important position on the field) by throwing him to the wolves early
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no matter what okoye needs to be in there
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doesn't matter who starts, i think we're deep enough to rotate so everyone goes all out
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no matter what okoye needs to be in there
i don't know.. he's a rookie and only 19. i'd rather have someone with experience out there.
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i don't know.. he's a rookie and only 19. i'd rather have someone with experience out there.
He's 20 now so he should be OK.

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With TJ's emergence so far this offseason I expect there to be a fairly constant rotation of people at the DT spot, which shoud be a good thing.
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Who cares how old he is? Is he collecting a check? Is he the best option we have? Then I expect to see him out there.

Odd how we debate which of our 1st Round picks is going to start while we pencil in the Street FA as a starter. How's that for ironic?
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He's 20 now so he should be OK.

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From what Kubes has said, we have 6 guys that will all rotate regularly, as far as the first snap? It will probably depend on the team we play. heavy passing team probably Maddox and Weaver, heavy rushing team probably TJ and Maddox. I think Okoye will be rotated in regularly based on his progress and the down and yardage. So far Okoye has not done well in rushing situations, he gets pushed around creating holes that actually hurt us rather than help us, but he will get better.
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what about Jeff Zgonina? Any sign of him during pre-season?
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Who cares how old he is? Is he collecting a check? Is he the best option we have? Then I expect to see him out there.

Odd how we debate which of our 1st Round picks is going to start while we pencil in the Street FA as a starter. How's that for ironic?
Man, y'all sure do get wrapped around the axle on what flippin' round somebody got drafted in. That's all a bunch of crap if you ask me. Tom Brady was drafted in round six. He must REEEEALLY SUCK.
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Who should be our two starting DT?

Okoye - our current starting RDT. I don't think Okoye has earn the rights to start. He shown little flashes in pre-season. Is only 19 years old and body still maturing, I don't think he should be thrown in the fire against bigger, stronger players at his young age.

Maddox - our starting LDT. Played pretty solid last year. Haven't watched him in the two pre-season, so don't know he playing so far.

TJ - Playing alot better then years before, showing good pressure in the two pre-season games. Our best dlinemen this preseason IMO, even though it was against 2nd String players. Will get some plays against the one this week to see if he can get the some results against the starting one Oline.
I go with Travis Johnson. He has had a good TC and a start would be a boost to his confidence. Would also give an idea how he will do against first string. Okoye can get time in game later against 2s. Maddox is solid and can sit for next two games in my opinion and be ready for what is needed against KC.
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From what Kubes has said, we have 6 guys that will all rotate regularly, as far as the first snap? It will probably depend on the team we play. heavy passing team probably Maddox and Weaver, heavy rushing team probably TJ and Maddox. I think Okoye will be rotated in regularly based on his progress and the down and yardage. So far Okoye has not done well in rushing situations, he gets pushed around creating holes that actually hurt us rather than help us, but he will get better.
Sounds sensible enough...
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what about Jeff Zgonina? Any sign of him during pre-season?
I am sure they let him rest a bit more than others. I mean, he is like 50 years old right?

Speaking of our DT's... I think that this week we will learn a lot from how are guys respond going up against the Cowgirls o-line. If we get pressure from our front four this week I would venture to say that the last couple of games they were just playing around. If we get pressure this week, we are the real deal. And Mario will need more than bull rush moves to beat out Leonard Davis.

Wouldn't this be a great result after meeting the Texans D-line...

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The two guys playing the best with the D line the practice week leading up to the game are the two who should start. It really doesn't matter to me. We have depth, which is a really nice thing to be able to say.

Okoye will get lots of experience this year, but I don't know that we need to throw him to the fire. The depth gives the Texans a chance to bring him along without breaking him.

Man, I can't wait to see Okoye and Mario playing at full speed one day though.
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I think that this week we will learn a lot from how are guys respond going up against the Cowgirls o-line. If we get pressure from our front four this week I would venture to say that the last couple of games they were just playing around. If we get pressure this week, we are the real deal. And Mario will need more than bull rush moves to beat out Leonard Davis.
Not just the D line, but the O line as well. For some time I've wondered if the line is getting better or if they've really been challenged yet. We should get a good idea if both the D line and the O line have improved in this game. Even that vaunted Chicago line was missing it's DT's.
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I am sure they let him rest a bit more than others. I mean, he is like 50 years old right?

Speaking of our DT's... I think that this week we will learn a lot from how are guys respond going up against the Cowgirls o-line. If we get pressure from our front four this week I would venture to say that the last couple of games they were just playing around. If we get pressure this week, we are the real deal. And Mario will need more than bull rush moves to beat out Leonard Davis.

Wouldn't this be a great result after meeting the Texans D-line...

Davis is a guard now, not a tackle...
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