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Old 08-19-2007   #1
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I started thinking about Kubiak's comment that we're going to have 5 or possibly 6 WR's and then I started thinking about the 53 man roster. I put together a quick list of who I'd keep offhand. We're going to be cutting some good players no matter what happens.

This is premature but I made up a roster with:

5 WRs (AJ, KW, JJ, AD, JM)
4 Tackles - (ES, EW, KB, JB)
4 Guards - (CP, FW, KS, DH)
2 Centers - (MF, SM)
4 TE's - (OD, MB, JP, BP[longsnapper])
3 QB's - (MS, SR, JZ)
3 RB's - (AG, RD, SG)
2 FB's - (VL, JA)
4 DE's - (AW, MW, NK, JB)
4 DT's - (AO, AM, TJ-1, JZ?)
6 LB's - (DR, DC, MG, CA, SB, ZD)
4 CB's - (DR, PF, JF, FB)
4 S's - (JS, CCB, VH, BM)
And Turk and Brown as kickers.

That's 51 roster spots and it doesn't include: Brandon Harrison, Wali Lundy, Keenan McCardell, Bethel Johnson, Chris White, Patrick Pass, Cochran, Malone, Killings, TJ-2, Shantee Orr, Tyrone Poole, Dexter Wynn, Charles Spencer, Jameel Cook, Darius Walker, or Brandon Frye.

Ouch?
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I started thinking about Kubiak's comment that we're going to have 5 or possibly 6 WR's and then I started thinking about the 53 man roster. I put together a quick list of who I'd keep offhand. We're going to be cutting some good players no matter what happens.

This is premature but I made up a roster with:

5 WRs (AJ, KW, JJ, AD, JM)
4 Tackles - (ES, EW, KB, JB)
4 Guards - (CP, FW, KS, DH)
2 Centers - (MF, SM)
4 TE's - (OD, MB, JP, BP[longsnapper])
3 QB's - (MS, SR, JZ)
3 RB's - (AG, RD, SG)
2 FB's - (VL, JA)
4 DE's - (AW, MW, NK, JB)
4 DT's - (AO, AM, TJ-1, JZ?)
6 LB's - (DR, DC, MG, CA, SB, ZD)
4 CB's - (DR, PF, JF, FB)
4 S's - (JS, CCB, VH, BM)
And Turk and Brown as kickers.

That's 51 roster spots and it doesn't include: Brandon Harrison, Wali Lundy, Keenan McCardell, Bethel Johnson, Chris White, Patrick Pass, Cochran, Malone, Killings, TJ-2, Shantee Orr, Tyrone Poole, Dexter Wynn, Charles Spencer, Jameel Cook, Darius Walker, or Brandon Frye.

Ouch?
I like it. Maybe McCardell over Davis. And we will have to cut someone to make room for Spencer at week 7. And, while I am pulling for Abbate, I think Pass is a better FB. I hope I am wrong though.
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Default Re: How Many Roster Spots per Position

We will not carry three QB's on the roster. This is how I see it happening...

Roster - QB - Schaub, Rosenfels

Practice Squad - QB - Zabransky

I foresee Van Pelt and Porter getting the boot this year.
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We will not carry three QB's on the roster. This is how I see it happening...

Roster - QB - Schaub, Rosenfels

Practice Squad - QB - Zabransky

I foresee Van Pelt and Porter getting the boot this year.
I kept Zabransky on the roster because I'm not sure he clears waivers and I don't know if they're going to risk losing him.

Also, I put Abbate on but I haven't heard about his injury from yesterday. He might be out. Which means Pass gets on. Pass might get on the roster any way.

I'm not sure I have the right number of roster spots per position.
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I kept Zabransky on the roster because I'm not sure he clears waivers and I don't know if they're going to risk losing him.

Also, I put Abbate on but I haven't heard about his injury from yesterday. He might be out. Which means Pass gets on. Pass might get on the roster any way.

I'm not sure I have the right number of roster spots per position.
I don't think you're far off with your numbers.

I'm thinking Zabransky, Abbate, Harrison, and Frye go to the practice squad. Z didn't really show too much during his cameo in AZ so maybe he makes it thru waivers.

I think we keep both McCardell and Davis. JM makes the team as a double-duty guy.

I don't know about Drew Hogdgon making it as a guard. And I right now I like McKinney starting and Chris White as the backup. But Flanagan is Sherm's boy, so you're probably right about him staying.
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spencer and cook are on the pup list, doesn't that mean they don't count against your 53 man roster?

and hey, if we're getting to the point that we have to start cutting decent players then kubiak and smith are following through with some of their promises. i've heard kubiak mention that a number of times...
If we start the season with them PUP'd, then we have to make the decision on whether to IR them or put them on the roster and cut someone else around week 7. I expect Spencer to start the season PUP'd. I think Cook is off the PUP list at this point.
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Cook was taken off the PUP list last week I believe. He's taking snaps but isn't in football shape yet.

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Cook was taken off the PUP list last week I believe. He's taking snaps but isn't in football shape yet.

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he was in football shape. he just couldnt hold onto that football shape.
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Someone(s) on the left over list may be trade bait for KC safety Greg Wesley.
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Pretty good list, PN.

I think it's usually 9 o-linemen, 9 d-linemen, 5 CBs or some combination of 9 DBs.
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I started thinking about Kubiak's comment that we're going to have 5 or possibly 6 WR's and then I started thinking about the 53 man roster. I put together a quick list of who I'd keep offhand. We're going to be cutting some good players no matter what happens.

This is premature but I made up a roster with:

5 WRs (AJ, KW, JJ, AD, JM)
4 Tackles - (ES, EW, KB, JB)
4 Guards - (CP, FW, KS, DH)
2 Centers - (MF, SM)
4 TE's - (OD, MB, JP, BP[longsnapper])
3 QB's - (MS, SR, JZ)
3 RB's - (AG, RD, SG)
2 FB's - (VL, JA)
4 DE's - (AW, MW, NK, JB)
4 DT's - (AO, AM, TJ-1, JZ?)
6 LB's - (DR, DC, MG, CA, SB, ZD)
4 CB's - (DR, PF, JF, FB)
4 S's - (JS, CCB, VH, BM)
And Turk and Brown as kickers.

That's 51 roster spots and it doesn't include: Brandon Harrison, Wali Lundy, Keenan McCardell, Bethel Johnson, Chris White, Patrick Pass, Cochran, Malone, Killings, TJ-2, Shantee Orr, Tyrone Poole, Dexter Wynn, Charles Spencer, Jameel Cook, Darius Walker, or Brandon Frye.

Ouch?

Won't nit pick with you PN. I think Chriss White has played well enough to warrent consideration, especailly with the age and injury history of our two centers for a spot.

Charles Spencer is protected untill Mid October by the pup list. Also anyone who is currently hurt. They're waiting on Brandon Harrison. I doubt he gets exposed. We have no saftey currently above five ten. And you believe anything you can believe Herm Edwards has already figgured that out and looking for ways to expoilt that. Walker and Frye have a shot to go to the PS. Although, as I posted befor, if they expose Frye they will loose him.


All in all prety fair list PN.
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Trade Anthony Weaver for Wesley and carry Cochran as the fourth DE
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51 players mentioned on list leaves two more for NFL roster + 5 players for P.S. + any injured players such as Spencer. It is going to hard times for the "turk" this season. But that should mean we are a better team.
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Trade Anthony Weaver for Wesley and carry Cochran as the fourth DE
What kind of bonus $ do we have to eat?
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Cook was taken off the PUP list last week I believe. He's taking snaps but isn't in football shape yet.

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Yep and he is runnin out of time. I like the guy. He's made some bo bos. But I like him. He's just running out of time.
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Pretty good list, PN.

I think it's usually 9 o-linemen, 9 d-linemen, 5 CBs or some combination of 9 DBs.
Usually it is only nine . But they fooled me last year and kept ten. And....if Mario is in the tank....do you keep ten d-lineman. I truly don't know what they are going to do. I thought it was prety silly of Lance Z to post his six WRs last week. I'm glad I'm not doing the hacking. I count eight guys I'd like to keep.
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Exactly! Thanks for the assist. Besides that management would have to say they made a mistake on another player. Not happening.
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Trade Anthony Weaver for Wesley and carry Cochran as the fourth DE
I love this plan. It's not feasible, but I love it.
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Trade Anthony Weaver for Wesley and carry Cochran as the fourth DE
By George, I think he's got it.

And we "ate" DC's cap hit to upgrade the QB spot. If we can upgrade the safety spot significantly, Smithiak will take the cap hit.

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