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Old 08-10-2007   #1
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Default GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

Tough talk from Kubiak gets through

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"You've got to give them credit," Kubiak said. "When I called them in, it was, 'OK, listen, we've got to do something different.' One of 'em we wanted more from (Johnson); the other we wanted to get on the field more (Mathis).

"I wanted them to know, 'Look, you're not a conditioned player, either one of you. You're talented, but you don't work the way we think you've got to work to be a pro player.' I explained to them that we think if you do all these things, you're going to be a heck of a player. You've never done 'em before. Go do 'em, and then let's see what happens. They listened. It's a time of the year when coaches try to get away. There was nobody jumping them every day. Neither missed a day, and both of them have been out here every day. It's about being committed to being a football player."
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Johnson and Mathis said he didn't use any bad words with them. He simply laid out that they needed to make some dramatic changes. The unspoken was, "Or else."

"He just said, 'You've got to get better. You've got to improve,' " Johnson said.

Inside the building, Johnson was once the poster boy for an underachiever. In the last two months, he has completely changed the way some people look at him.

Mathis got the message as well. He played just two games last season, and when Kubiak didn't like what he saw during the offseason program, he decided enough was enough.

"I definitely agree with him," Mathis said. "I knew I wasn't in the best shape at all. I was constantly getting hurt. I also took it as a challenge."
I'm just so pleasantly surprised that these two seem to have finally gotten the message. Kudos extraordinaire to Kubiak.
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Well, it's going to come down to them proving it. Johnson has to work harder and Mathis has to stay healthy--I guess that means work harder at conditioning, and be smarter off the field.

I believe they will, but that's like believing in a lot of things that never quite work out. I have proof (in what's been said) that they have done better for a while, but it takes a career of that kind of effort.

I'm just glad that Kubiak is drawing lines in the sand. This team needs that special effort, whether it comes from past, present, or future players.
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Default Re: GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

I read the Justice column this morning. Very informative and encouraging, but the proof is in the pudding. Let's see these two perform on the field and see what happens.
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Default Re: GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

I just read the whole column. Folks. We have a football coach in Houston now. This guy gets me fired up about the potential of this team.
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Default Re: GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

Two important spokes in a large wheel if these two can contribute significantly. I am going to start a thread concerning these two players from another angle.
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Default Re: GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

I definitely got my reservations about Kubiak on some subjects, but these
jawboning tactics he uses on some players, epecially the underachieving high-draft picks, I'm all for because I think they are effective.
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Did anyone else see the title of this thread and think "Justice actually wrote something useful?"?
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Default Re: GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

there's a quote a couple years ago from john lynch when talking about the possibility of kubiak becoming a head coach and the effect was "kubiak's a well reserved guy and a great teacher, he doesnt have to yell often ... but when kubiak yells, even the defense stops." i love hearing things like this about a coach, he really seems to command a lot of respect and knows how to speak to each player in order to get the most from them.
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Default Re: GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

I like how he calls everyone "kid" no matter how old they are, as in Mark Breuner is a great kid. What does that makes Bruener's kids, tiny people?
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Default Re: GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

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Default Re: GOD DANG! I loved today's Justice column

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Did anyone else see the title of this thread and think "Justice actually wrote something useful?"?
No, because I had seen no other signs of the apocalypse to go along with it.
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No, because I had seen no other signs of the apocalypse to go along with it.
Now that's funny right there. Perhaps you will post in the devotionals?
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Did anyone else see the title of this thread and think "Justice actually wrote something useful?"?
The Twilight Zone theme started playing in the background.

I like what we're hearing so far, but obviously proof is in the puddding.
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I like how he calls everyone "kid" no matter how old they are, as in Mark Breuner is a great kid. What does that makes Bruener's kids, tiny people?
Wow Porkster, your such a biggot....I'm sure you know they like to be called "The wee people" these days.
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