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Old 07-30-2007   #1
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BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns rookie quarterback Brady Quinn missed his fourth day of training camp Monday in a contract holdout that shows no signs of ending anytime soon for the first-round draft pick.

Quinn, who figures to compete for the starting job with Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson, has missed six practices so far.

Browns general manager Phil Savage has been in negotiations with Quinn's agent, Tom Condon, but the team said there was nothing new to report.

"I'm glad we've got the other guys out there," Savage said. "If anything, it's given Charlie and Derek the chance to get more reps, and that's a positive."

Savage characterized talks with Condon as "in the same neighborhood, but not on the same street
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wow no hometown discount esp after all the "rah rah rah, my dream is to play of Cleveland etc etc hype"
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Brady Quinn has B-U-S-T written all over him...
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Prior to the Schaub trade, I was really afraid we were going to end up with this guy.
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the 22nd pick is acting like a #2 pick.
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Default Re: Unsigned Quinn misses 4th day of Browns camp

Poor Browns .... they knew passing on Quinn was a good idea in the beggining and now they realize why hey should never draft a QB again.

Couch ....

Fry ....

Quinn .... ?
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Brady Quinn has C-A-R-R written all over him...
sorry, i couldnt resist. brady quinn has "bust" tattoo'd across his forehead and is an exact replica of carr in football terms. all the physical tools with no head attached.
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the 22nd pick is acting like a #2 pick.
More evidence that the guy fell to #22 for a reason...
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the 22nd pick is acting like a #2 pick.
They NEED to make a stand for all the other teams; draft picks demanding money is getting our of control. Every year they have a new made up reason. What's his?

A. I went to Notre Dame.
B. Do you KNOW who I am?
C. I was a top 5 pick.
D. I'm pretty, white, family oriented, and religious. (sorry, couldn't resist)
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I dont think he should get paid more than his draft position, but anyone who thinks he is going to be a huge bust already is kidding themselves.

He may not make a huge impact already, but he proved himself at ND in my opinion, and I think he's going to make the Browns a much better team midway through the season
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I dont think he should get paid more than his draft position, but anyone who thinks he is going to be a huge bust already is kidding themselves.

He may not make a huge impact already, but he proved himself at ND in my opinion, and I think he's going to make the Browns a much better team midway through the season
What is it that he proved at ND that makes you think he will have a huge impact in the NFL?
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Default Re: Unsigned Quinn misses 4th day of Browns camp

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Brady Quinn has B-U-S-T written all over him...
Word....dude wants to be treated like he was a top 10 pick.....

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What is it that he proved at ND that makes you think he will have a huge impact in the NFL?
exactly....out of the 5 or 6 ND games I watched last year Quinn didn't impress me one bit...he seems like he's mistake prone and now with this hold out he looks like a jerk also
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I've been calling for quinn as a bust for literally months now...was absolutely terrified of him ending up here. That cold sweat lasted from the second the dolphins passed on him until we got amobi.....man he is going to suck.
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Default Re: Unsigned Quinn misses 4th day of Browns camp

He proved he can win games without much support, without much of an OL, and without any defense.

He has good form, good pocket presence, and good arm strength.

I dont seem to get why people are so quick to label him a bust?

I mean, Im pretty sure NFL talent scouts wouldn't have rated him in the top 3 of college QBs if he was complete trash, right?
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He proved he can win games without much support, without much of an OL, and without any defense.

He has good form, good pocket presence, and good arm strength.

I dont seem to get why people are so quick to label him a bust?

I mean, Im pretty sure NFL talent scouts wouldn't have rated him in the top 3 of college QBs if he was complete trash, right?
He played for Notre Dame, not an expansion team. I think he will be more Mirer than Montana myself. Parts is parts and hype is hype.
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Before the draft I thought he was the most overrated player on the most overrated team and I will continue to think that until he proves otherwise.
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He proved he can win games without much support, without much of an OL, and without any defense.

He has good form, good pocket presence, and good arm strength.

I dont seem to get why people are so quick to label him a bust?

I mean, Im pretty sure NFL talent scouts wouldn't have rated him in the top 3 of college QBs if he was complete trash, right?
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They NEED to make a stand for all the other teams; draft picks demanding money is getting our of control. Every year they have a new made up reason. What's his?

A. I went to Notre Dame.
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C. I was a top 5 pick.
D. I'm pretty, white, family oriented, and religious. (sorry, couldn't resist)
E. I like to touch the crotchs of other men...ahhh...boys

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Now this is just turning ridiculous.

First of all, some of those QBs failed because of the system they were put into. I still believe that David's biggest problem was his own mental toughness. Same with Ryan Leaf.

Second, you listed 6 QBs in the how many years of NFL drafting? If you look at the numbers of QBs drafted in the 1st round, I guarantee you more have been sucessful than failures. And I will also guarantee you that as you move furhter down into the later rounds the % sucess continues to get lower and lower.

Why? Because NFL talent scouts scout talent. Its their job. As much as we'd all love to assume we have some sort of insight thats better than talent scouts, the fact of the matter is we don't. So if a majority of teams rate him as 1st round talent, Im going to go with that until I see otherwise

Second of all, if this is an argument about football, why not keep it about football instead of bringing up some picture? Sports players have always been too close to homosexual in my opinion, but its just the culture I guess. If you doubt me, go watch the video of Aramis Ramirez on the Lance Z blog page.
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Now this is just turning ridiculous.

First of all, some of those QBs failed because of the system they were put into. I still believe that David's biggest problem was his own mental toughness. Same with Ryan Leaf.

Second, you listed 6 QBs in the how many years of NFL drafting? If you look at the numbers of QBs drafted in the 1st round, I guarantee you more have been sucessful than failures. And I will also guarantee you that as you move furhter down into the later rounds the % sucess continues to get lower and lower.

Why? Because NFL talent scouts scout talent. Its their job. As much as we'd all love to assume we have some sort of insight thats better than talent scouts, the fact of the matter is we don't. So if a majority of teams rate him as 1st round talent, Im going to go with that until I see otherwise

Second of all, if this is an argument about football, why not keep it about football instead of bringing up some picture? Sports players have always been too close to homosexual in my opinion, but its just the culture I guess. If you doubt me, go watch the video of Aramis Ramirez on the Lance Z blog page.
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