Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-27-2007   #1
gtexan02
Working?
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Boston
Age: 30
Posts: 15,673
Rep Power: 66827 gtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Starting SAM?

I heard on 610 this afternoon, that Charlie Anderson was getting the majority of 1st team reps.

Theres Shantee from last year

Who else is in the mix?
__________________
Drinking the kool aid
gtexan02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #2
nunusguy
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 8,991
Rep Power: 185 nunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respectednunusguy is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

On the Channel 13 show the other night they said the primary competition for
the strong-side backer position would between Anderson & Shantee Orr, who were described as "best friends".
Also on that show one of the FA LBs, either Danny Clark or Shawn Barber, described Anderson as having an unusual body type, and said it in a complimetary manner as if he was well suited to play his position. Found that interesting, but unsure exactly of what he meant ?
nunusguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #3
HOU-TEX 
Ah, Football!
 
HOU-TEX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: P-land
Age: 43
Posts: 15,474
Rep Power: 114958 HOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

I'd like to get more opinions on the LBs as well. D-Ryans is undoubtedly our Mike. IMO, the Sam and Will positions should be up for grabs. I just don't see alot of talent other than D-Ryans.

Kubiak gave Anderson quite a bit of praise during mini camps so I hope he's just as improved when they strap on the pads.

I think Greenwood's a great guy but there's just not enough talent there to justify his pay or a guaranteed starting position. He showed decent improvement throughout last season but will it continue?

I think there are still big questions to be answered at LB. I hope somebody will step up like D-Ryans did last TC.
__________________
Kubiak: "They’re battling their tail off." Translation: They suck.
HOU-TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #4
gtexan02
Working?
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Boston
Age: 30
Posts: 15,673
Rep Power: 66827 gtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

I think Demeco is locked in as MLB
Greenwood is a guaranteed starter in my book, as he would have already been cut if he wasn't going to start
Barber is Greenwoods backup
Clark will backup Ryans

I think SLB is by FAR our weakest position. I think Orr was the weakest link on our entire defense last year, adn to think his backup is now in line for the starting position doesnt inspire a lot of confidence in me at all
__________________
Drinking the kool aid
gtexan02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #5
kravix
Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 57
Rep Power: 9 kravix is on the Pro-Bowl ballotkravix is on the Pro-Bowl ballot
Default Re: Starting SAM?

Demeco and Greenwood are starting Mike and Will. Kubes said the Sam is a competition between Orr, Anderson, Clark, and Barber. Honestly I couldnt pick between them at this point, but if I hade to make an uneducated personal opinion I would say that Anderson beats out Orr for the starting position this year.
kravix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #6
gtexan02
Working?
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Boston
Age: 30
Posts: 15,673
Rep Power: 66827 gtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respectedgtexan02 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

All the vets in the TC quotes raved about Barber. I'd love to see him out there if what they say is even half true
__________________
Drinking the kool aid
gtexan02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #7
Bull Pen 1
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cut N Shoot, Texas
Age: 58
Posts: 4,460
Rep Power: 1621 Bull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respectedBull Pen 1 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kravix View Post
Demeco and Greenwood are starting Mike and Will. Kubes said the Sam is a competition between Orr, Anderson, Clark, and Barber. Honestly I couldnt pick between them at this point, but if I hade to make an uneducated personal opinion I would say that Anderson beats out Orr for the starting position this year.
I hate to sound stupid, but what is a SAM?

Am I only one who doesn't know or the only one to ask?
__________________
Original Bull Pen member :banana:
One of the original Blue Crew Member
http://texanstalk.com/pics/bptatto.jpg
Bull Pen 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 07-27-2007   #8
infantrycak
Lead Moderator
 
infantrycak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 47
Posts: 46,284
Rep Power: 331516 infantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bull Pen 1 View Post
I hate to sound stupid, but what is a SAM?
Strong side LB.

Often designated as Sam for SLB, Mike for MLB and Will for WLB.
__________________
The Art of War
infantrycak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #9
Vinny
shiny happy fan
 
Vinny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 50
Posts: 21,844
Rep Power: 161784 Vinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

Greenwood and Ryans are locks but the slb is wide open imo. I'm sure we see different guys getting reps with the first team as the evaluation period is on now that the speculation period dies.

At the other two linebacker spots I see Greenwood as a Jay Foreman level player with a bit more physical ability, so maybe Coach Bush can get him to play at a higher level. Bush is the guy Kubiak wanted to begin with and specializes in linebackers. This is a key year for Greenwood going forward as to the future of this defense in any case. Since I read that one of the coaches commented that Ryans may have been the most improved player coming into camp I'm thinking that this just has to be another sign he is who we think he is (insert Denny Green imagery)....I think they move him around and use him at the will in some down and distance packages. I bet we see him all over the field this year and we now have the ability to put Dunta on one edge over the slot and DeMeco at the Will drooling to beat the rb block. DeMeco can get deep knee bend and explode low, getting under the blocks and around blockers like few peers....teams have to pay attention to Williams and Okoye right? We have the tools for an explosive defense in nickel packages because we have blitzing ability and body control on two sides of the ball, with most of the O-line attention aimed at all the 1st round pick linemen manning the trenches.
__________________
http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk


"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow
Vinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #10
V3rm0nt3r
All Pro
 
V3rm0nt3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Springfield MA for the next 4 years
Section: Wherever the biggest TV is
Age: 29
Posts: 597
Rep Power: 2846 V3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respectedV3rm0nt3r is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

Ryans is Mike
Greenwood is Will
Anderson/Orr split Sam

Clark backs up Ryans
Barber is Nickel
V3rm0nt3r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007   #11
Porky
Hall of Fame
 
Porky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 51
Posts: 12,238
Rep Power: 57261 Porky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respectedPorky is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Starting SAM?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny View Post
Greenwood and Ryans are locks but the slb is wide open imo. I'm sure we see different guys getting reps with the first team as the evaluation period is on now that the speculation period dies.

At the other two linebacker spots I see Greenwood as a Jay Foreman level player with a bit more physical ability, so maybe Coach Bush can get him to play at a higher level. Bush is the guy Kubiak wanted to begin with and specializes in linebackers. This is a key year for Greenwood going forward as to the future of this defense in any case. Since I read that one of the coaches commented that Ryans may have been the most improved player coming into camp I'm thinking that this just has to be another sign he is who we think he is (insert Denny Green imagery)....I think they move him around and use him at the will in some down and distance packages. I bet we see him all over the field this year and we now have the ability to put Dunta on one edge over the slot and DeMeco at the Will drooling to beat the rb block. DeMeco can get deep knee bend and explode low, getting under the blocks and around blockers like few peers....teams have to pay attention to Williams and Okoye right? We have the tools for an explosive defense in nickel packages because we have blitzing ability and body control on two sides of the ball, with most of the O-line attention aimed at all the 1st round pick linemen manning the trenches.

Nice analysis!
__________________
Your local CruiseOne Vacation specialist. www.firstclasscruising.biz Visit me on Facebook.
Porky is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger