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Old 07-09-2007   #1
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Bethel Johnson to a deal Monday.

Johnson, 5-foot-11 and 200 pounds, will add another kick returner to the Texans' roster as well as a speedy target for quarterback Matt Schaub.



Does this mean Mathis is a goner?
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Was just about to make this thread...

Don't know what it means for Mathis but it's definitely not a positive for him..
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Good to see some speed added to the WR Corps. Too bad we still have AJ and a bunch of 3rd WRs/Slot Guys and no real number 2.
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Hopefully he can make the team. I like the speed. Hey if it works out we will have Johnson&Johnson.
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Just throwing another body at the problem and hoping for something.
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Good to have another Aggie on the team. Naturally, I like the signing, so long as the price was right (which it was, I am sure).
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Mathis should not be cut before training camp unless a medical report rules him out. He should be treated like any other injured player especially one going to the pro bowl the last season he played (2 years ago).
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Just throwing another body at the problem and hoping for something.


::: SIGH ::: sadly that is all we ever do. CAN'T, WON'T spend the money on good young players. I just hope that we get some good out of our rookies this next year.
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Mathis should not be cut before training camp unless a medical report rules him out. He should be treated like any other injured player especially one going to the pro bowl the last season he played (2 years ago).
Saving a roster spot for a Special Teamer who made the Pro Bowl two years ago, during his rookie year, is not a strong value proposition to keep him in my opinon. The more I chew on this, the more I would be behind his release should he be unable to perform at the same level as a KR, and as a viable WR.
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Saving a roster spot for a Special Teamer who made the Pro Bowl two years ago, during his rookie year, is not a strong value proposition to keep him in my opinon. The more I chew on this, the more I would be behind his release should he be unable to perform at the same level as a KR, and as a viable WR.
Kubiak has said that he isn't going to assume anyone whose been injured is coming back from that injury. There was some of that going on last year, and it bit them in the posterior.

So, he's making it hard to make the team by creating more competition in camp.

That is an obvious change from last year. What I want to know is what steps they are taking to reduce the numbers on IR. They said in the offseason they were going to look at that issue, but I never heard what things if any, they are doing about that.
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Interesting signing. I know they wanted another veteran who has seen NFL action. I bet this rules out McCardell signing here now.

As interesting as i thought the 3rd RB battle would be WR might well end up being just as good. Davis is looking to regain form again. Walters has a slight edge from the little showcasing time he got last year. Mathis should be healthy enough to compete. Johnson adds some intrigue to the group now. Oh yeah we drafted Jacoby Jones who no doubt will make the roster one way or another. This could not bode well for a guy like David Anderson.

Anyone know if we'll carry 4 or 5 receivers on the roster?

RK and PR will be interesting too. If Mathis is healthy he should be in... I don't think we'd release him before TC. That'd just be stupid, if he's healthy, to deny him a shot at least. It won't take him long to find a home either after we release him. I just hope he stays out of our division if that comes true.
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::: SIGH ::: sadly that is all we ever do. CAN'T, WON'T spend the money on good young players. I just hope that we get some good out of our rookies this next year.
Let me be fair to the Texans. If you have limited funds (not discussing the why at the moment) there really is not another legitiamte way to improving your squad. Not predicting this for the Texans, but the 1st Patriots Superbowl winner had a ton of these no name signings where the staff there was better at placing people in the correct roles than other teams. If the 2006 regular season is any indication, the current administration seems to have good feel for doing similiar things with lower level signings.
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Y'all don't seen to be too happy about this signing, but don't kid yourself, Bethel Johnson has some skills. Granted, being an Aggie, I've followed his career and have been disapointed so far. But, if he applies himself, he could easily make this team and be a solid contributer.

If nothing else, Mathis will have to look over his shoulder this Spring.

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I like the signing...

I think the guy has some skills and can make some plays for us. I also like the fact that he played a role for a superbowl winning team...Despite the over-stated factor of experience, I truly believe his experience will rub off on a couple of guys....He knows about being an underdog and winning...He knows about being on a team that knows how to consistently put up W's....He didn't have a great role on those Patriot teams, but he's atleast been around it enough to know what it takes, and what things to steer clear of...
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::: SIGH ::: sadly that is all we ever do. CAN'T, WON'T spend the money on good young players. I just hope that we get some good out of our rookies this next year.
Who should they have signed this past offseason? Oh yeah let me add that this is Smith's first full year with the team and there was not much cap room because so doofus over spent or players.
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Mathis should be worried.

If Bethel can be a viable KR/PR and have the ability to play WR, Mathis will be gone. Mathis needs to stay healthy and contribute as a wideout to make this team. Jacoby alone makes it hard on Mathis to keep his job, now there's 2.

I like Mathis and I hope he has been practicing his route running and recieving skills.

I like the added competition. Maybe this can make our herd of number 3's play hard and someone becomes a real number 2.
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There's nothing to not like about this signing. Nothing was given up to get him and he's cheap. We definitely have the best competition at the WR spot in our short history.

I think we need to keep everything in perspective. Remember that we opened last season with Edell Sheperd and Derrick Lewis active at WR. And our kick returners were a mix between those 2 guys with Roc Alexander, Wali Lundy and Dexter Wynn. B. Johnson is a huge upgrade over all of those guys.
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Who should they have signed this past offseason? Oh yeah let me add that this is Smith's first full year with the team and there was not much cap room because so doofus over spent or players.
Well... let's look at the top of the 2007 WR FA class...

Stallworth
Lelie
Stokely
Curtis
Bennett
Washington

We went after Lelie who ended up getting overpaid in SF. The other guys are average at best and were all overpaid by another team.
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Hard for me to post this (an Aggie thing), but I remember some of this baggage about Bethel Johnson from before:
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He was traded to the Saints on June 5, 2006 for defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan, who was drafted sixth overall by the Saints in 2003. [2] Johnson was criticized in New England for his ego and his work ethic. And Saints coach Sean Payton questioned Johnson's "conditioning, his stamina and endurance" during the preseason. [3]

Johnson was cut from the Saints before the 2006 regular season began after injuring his knee in a preseason game and then was signed by the Minnesota Vikings on October 10th, 2006.[4]

On March 8, 2007 he signed a one year contract with the Philadelphia Eagles. He was released on June 5th after he failed a physical
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