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Old 07-06-2007   #1
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http://www.kffl.com/team/18/NFL

"Carmine Pirone, of HoustonTexans.com, reports Houston Texans DT Anthony Maddox is expected to start at one of the defensive tackle positions this season."

Not a shock, but it's still good to have some solid information, especially in the off-season.

Also, a nice read about Maddox on the Texans site...

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/St...?story_id=3393

Maddox is one of the guys that I specifically watched for last year. He definitely made a big splash, especially by the end of the year. Hopefully he will continue to improve and, with the help of Super Mario and Obi Won Okoye, create the dominant D-line that we have all dreamt about!

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The front side of our defense is pretty solid. Teams are going to have a tough time running against our defense. I predict our run defense to be top 10 next year.
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That does make things look ok for the moment, but im not going to go as far as saying top 10 yet, although Akoye has alot of upside, we are yet to see what he can do in the NFL, as is the same with Mario, he hasn't shown us consitantly that he is a dominant defensive end, yes we have seen flashes, however to be a top ten run stuffing defence, we need consistency.

Yes the pieces of the puzzle are coming into place, but they are far from the finished jigsaw.
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Way to go TJ...*cough*scrub*cough*

Way to go Maddox - Guys like you are why we watch.
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The front side of our defense is pretty solid. Teams are going to have a tough time running against our defense. I predict our run defense to be top 10 next year.
I think that Okoye will have trouble against the run for at least the first couple years.
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I think it will be fun watching this line come together. Finally we have a line that we are comfortable with.
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I had a dream last night that Mario was going to be a beast...
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If the season starts that way, it would be a great success story for the team finding a street free agent.

Definitely not a success story for various first round picks and big dollar free agents on the d-line.

The trend may be up - we'll have to see what data points this season generates.
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Is Babin starting or can he join TJ and Carr on the bust train?
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Is Babin starting or can he join TJ and Carr on the bust train?
Babin will be a situational pass rushing DE. I'm not sure I'd pin the bust tag on Babin. Sure, he's been an average player, but not a bust. I consider a bust to be someone who is unable to perform at the NFL level. IMO,Babin has done decent in the NFL. It's not his fault CC did what he did in order to get him. Personally, I think Babin will have his best season this year.

Now TJ on the other hand, has been subpar at best. I'm not sure what to think of him. He might be in the rotation, but I think Kubiak/Smith will get rid of him as soon as it's not such a financial kick in the pants.
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IMO, if you are a first rounder and your still just a situational player after 4 years (I think) you are a bust. Babin gets a bigger bust label because we basically gave up half the draft to get him.

That loss of picks, coupled with the P-Burnt trade after that set back the franchise for years.
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IMO, if you are a first rounder and your still just a situational player after 4 years (I think) you are a bust. Babin gets a bigger bust label because we basically gave up half the draft to get him.

That loss of picks, coupled with the P-Burnt trade after that set back the franchise for years.
Was it Babin that gave up the picks? Was it Buchanon that made the trade. The bust is Casserly! The guy should be banned from the NFL for ever.

It might of set us back a year or two considering next season we're going to be in good shape capwise.
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Was it Babin that gave up the picks? Was it Buchanon that made the trade. The bust is Casserly! The guy should be banned from the NFL for ever.
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IMO, if you are a first rounder and your still just a situational player after 4 years (I think) you are a bust. Babin gets a bigger bust label because we basically gave up half the draft to get him.

That loss of picks, coupled with the P-Burnt trade after that set back the franchise for years.
I don't get bummed out too much about Babin for two reasons:

1. The guy was a 4-3 guy in a 3-4 for his first two seasons. He has admitted having trouble with the 3-4. So he wasn't used well and, like several other players, he is starting over in his learning process.

2. While playing in situational downs, Babin garnered 5 sacks (most of any defensive player that year). He also produced comparably to his first two years - again - even without being an every-down kind of player.

In short, I think he is doing fine. I'm not ecstatic, but I think he's doing well. I think the more time in the system, the better he'll play.
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I hope for great things out of our D-line, but I think we'll need to be patient, as well. Okoye, with as much potential, will still just be a very young rookie in a pro league of sharks. He won't be dominant out of the game, and just like Mario, it'll take him awhile just to get used to the speed of the game and the strength of his opponents.

I only mention this because our high hopes need to be more long term than immediate gratification. Otherwise, the inevitable reality of the situation will only serve to pop our collective balloons.
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I would say I feel positive as far as the future goes, short term though there are just too many unknown quantities. I think this is probably TJ's last chance to cancel his ticket out of town and I think Maddox will be the key to his future. On the one hand having to battle Maddox for the other DT spot will potentially push TJ to wake up and play football. On the other hand having the depth we now have at DT will make it easier to get rid of him. It would have to be a trade to dump him this year, so if he comes to camp physically ready and shows the effort, I look for the PR machine to pump him up to leave open a possible trade. If he doesnt show up ready and put forth the effort, he will ride the pine and they will dump him next offseason. IMHO.
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Okoye, with as much potential, will still just be a very young rookie in a pro league of sharks. He won't be dominant out of the game, and just like Mario, it'll take him awhile just to get used to the speed of the game and the strength of his opponents.
I'm not so sure. A lot depends on how Okoye is used. I see Amobi as more of a pass rush specialist, initially. And I think it will be the offensive linemen he faces who must adjust to his unique explosiveness. I'd hate to see him worn down playing on an every down basis.

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While playing in situational downs, Babin garnered 5 sacks (most of any defensive player that year). He also produced comparably to his first two years - again - even without being an every-down kind of player.

In short, I think he is doing fine. I'm not ecstatic, but I think he's doing well. I think the more time in the system, the better he'll play.
I agree, and I think the Texans will be more aggressive with their stunts and games along the defensive front, this season. New DL coach Jethro Franklin did a great job in Green Bay with KGB as a pass rusher. I think he will be a real boon to Babin, as well as the other D-lineman. Isee a career high in sacks for both Babin, and the team.
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I hope for great things out of our D-line, but I think we'll need to be patient, as well. Okoye, with as much potential, will still just be a very young rookie in a pro league of sharks. He won't be dominant out of the game, and just like Mario, it'll take him awhile just to get used to the speed of the game and the strength of his opponents.

I only mention this because our high hopes need to be more long term than immediate gratification. Otherwise, the inevitable reality of the situation will only serve to pop our collective balloons.
I agree with you completely, but I think it extends much further than just the D-line. "Okoye" could be substituted with any number of players brought into the organization this year.
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