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Old 06-18-2007   #1
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Just because it's slow .

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Absolute garbage........

No way VY should be that high after 1 avg. to below avg. year.

& no matter how you slice it Mr. Kang' Jon Kitna is not better than McNabb, Roethlisberger & Favre. 3 QB's who've each led their teams to superbowls.
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Kitna had better Stats but his team finished the season with the second pick of the draft. McNabb prior to another freak injury was putting up career numbers.

I think it took a while for big Ben to get back mentally into playing shape myself and i expect a bounce back type of year for him.

Was i the only one entertained about the Schaub/Vick Comments?

The VY comments are laughable but i'll hold reservations until next year.

I think Cutler will make some noise next year in Denver though. I said it before and i'll say it again out of the big three QB's drafted last year Cutler will have the better career.
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You don't see or here about how the Texans got screwed anymore ... at least by the Falcon fans .
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When you base your opinion off of stats and media hype, this is what you get
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Peter King is a racist ****bag. Look at the "intangibles"......the intangibles list is code for being lily white. average out the black qb's intangibles and the white qb's intangibles, and then look down the list......apparently jon kitna has more "it" than steve mcnair. *****. He should be banned from breathing.
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What I've done: ranked the 2007 starting quarterbacks in the league from 1 to 32, from Manning (Peyton) to Croyle (Brodie). The rankings are in the order of who will have the best seasons in 2007 and 2007 only.
read what he is saying. He ranks Kitna higher then others due to his team, and King is basing this on the 2007 stats as he estimates them.

Roy Willimas and C Johnson are going to be a nice group for a salty vet like Kitna. I could see him having a solid season if his line can keep him off the ground. I mean in that group who gets the double? Leave CJ alone or in S coverage I can not see that being good, same with Williams.

Young I am bias so I will hold my comments.

McNabb has what? He is expected to come back next season. Most likely he will not be at full speed and take allot of pressure. With the loss of Stallworth I do not see many options. It could be a long season for the birds.
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Peter King is a racist ****bag. Look at the "intangibles"......the intangibles list is code for being lily white. average out the black qb's intangibles and the white qb's intangibles, and then look down the list......apparently jon kitna has more "it" than steve mcnair. *****. He should be banned from breathing.
I disagree with your thought of Peter King being racist. But we all have our own opinions. I just think you're wrong.

And I would take Kitna over McNair right now if I had to choose one or the other.
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McNabb has what? He is expected to come back next season. Most likely he will not be at full speed and take allot of pressure. With the loss of Stallworth I do not see many options. It could be a long season for the birds.[/QUOTE]

Overall Kitna has never been a BAD QB...but i think his best Season was in Cinci with 8-8 pre Carson Palmer. I do agree on CJ and Williams though...assuming Roy keeps quiet and plays football.

McNair has had an MVP Kitna could never say that...much less get a sniff of one.

McNabb will be fine next year. They added Kevin Curtis opposite Reggie Brown, have a solid TE in LJ, and Brian Westbrook finally had a healthy Season(he was the reason they made the playoff push, not Garcia.) Overall they hada solid draft...though after signing Feeley to a deal and making Kolb their first pick does puzzle me.I thought i heard a trade to the bears rumor.....that would be a sick team.
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[quote=Blazing Arrow;682137]read what he is saying. He ranks Kitna higher then others due to his team, and King is basing this on the 2007 stats as he estimates them.

Roy Willimas and C Johnson are going to be a nice group for a salty vet like Kitna. I could see him having a solid season if his line can keep him off the ground. I mean in that group who gets the double? Leave CJ alone or in S coverage I can not see that being good, same with Williams.

Young I am bias so I will hold my comments.

McNabb has what? He is expected to come back next season. Most likely he will not be at full speed and take allot of pressure. With the loss of Stallworth I do not see many options. It could be a long season for the birds.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? So Stallworth is gone, considering who the guy was throwing to all those years when they lost the NFC Championship
games (Todd Stinkston & James Trash) I'd say He doesn't need much to put up great stats & have a winning team. Lets not even mention how many games Stallworth missed with injury & what Mcnabb was doing prior to his injury last year.
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Peter King is a racist ****bag. Look at the "intangibles"......the intangibles list is code for being lily white. average out the black qb's intangibles and the white qb's intangibles, and then look down the list......apparently jon kitna has more "it" than steve mcnair. *****. He should be banned from breathing.
i didnt get that at all tbh..

anyway he seems to think schaub will be pretty good so thats a +
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i didnt get that at all tbh..

anyway he seems to think schaub will be pretty good so thats a +
I did not get it either. I think he is trying to hard. Anyhow, Schaub at #19 is fair enough. I think he will be good as well, but realistically you can throw him in the upper tier until he has a few games under his belt.
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Average white QB intangible rating: 6.6
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Are you serious? So Stallworth is gone, considering who the guy was throwing to all those years when they lost the NFC Championship
games (Todd Stinkston & James Trash) I'd say He doesn't need much to put up great stats & have a winning team. Lets not even mention how many games Stallworth missed with injury & what Mcnabb was doing prior to his injury last year.
In Case you haven't checked Tood Pinkston has rightfully been released. James Thrash might still be with Washington.

As far as what McNabb was doing PRIOR to his injury

180/316 for a 58.2 completion percentage with 2647 yards
8.38 Yards per completion with the longest being 91 yards
18 to 6 TD/INT ratio

You'd have be crazy not to take those kind of numbers prior to his injury. I might add that even with that severly inept receiving corps...they made the NFC championship several times. To me that says something in itself. Speaking when is the last time we made it to ONE?

Some people have a hangup on Philly understandably. I became a fan during the Cunningham days and followed through ever since. I do think some people want to Hose Donovan despite everything he's accomplished and been through.
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Well your boy Vick is bringing the average down with his pure tangible only negative intangibles. McNair is existing on intangibles at this point and of course Young is off the charts. Despite McNabb's play, he hasn't built a consensus in his own locker room. Where's the conspiracy.
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You're not considering sample size.

Would you rather have a .300 hitter with 25 at-bats or a .750 hitter with 4 at-bats?
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I'm more interested in the one with 4 at bats!

Regardless, I can't take Peter King all that serious. Every article he ends with comments about Starbucks coffee.

smh, real men don't need that frappucino/mochalatte stuff. I'm even disgusted at myself for even knowing those drinks.
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