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nunusguy · 11-01-2004

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Originally Posted by STEEL BLUE TEXANS

Champ Bailey struggles against big physical receivers. This week will be no different.

Yup. And to complicate things for Bailey, this one is about 30 pounds bigger and about as fast as him. And I'm sure they won't give the "Champ" any help with a safety, so it's gonna get real interesting when Carr flips that little
pass to AJ out there in the flat - and it's just AJ & Champ out there.

ColdSteelBlue · 11-01-2004

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Originally Posted by Grid

WHY arent we seeing more of armstrong? .

I heard on the radio that he has a deep quad bruise.

Andre_Johnson80 · 11-03-2004

AJ most def got size on him but Champs got some ups. I say he works over the middle, that's where AJ will hurt Denver

El Tejano · 11-03-2004

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Originally Posted by Grid

fans to jump the gun on personel moves.. but WHY arent we seeing more of armstrong?
If Bradford is not 100%.. then why dont we put Armstrong in and give Bradford a week of playing 4th WR to heal up? it would be nice to see if Armstrong can handle the pressure of being out there on a regular basis.

I am noticing a pattern of Armstrong coming along in the 4th quarter. Armstrong did make a couple of appearances in the last game but he went out with a bruised thigh. I assume we will see/need him more in this game. I think he is a heck of a WR and has been the difference maker for us in many games this year.

Andre_Johnson80 · 11-03-2004

I just hope AJ keep up his pro bowl #s

Blake · 11-03-2004

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Originally Posted by BradK10

thats laughable

Who are you quoting in the above post? Next time leave their name in the quote.

BradK10 · 11-03-2004

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Originally Posted by DC_ROCK

Who are you quoting in the above post? Next time leave their name in the quote.

what are you, the posting police?

wolf123 · 11-03-2004

If chad johnson with carson palmer throwing him the ball was able to tear up champ than i see no reason why andre johnson with david carr can't tear up champ too. andre is a much better receiver than chad. and if champ is vonuerable to deep passes than andre definatly has the advantage their.

Rosusu · 11-03-2004

Great article about dre on the front page of sportsline.com, we are finally getting some coverage around here!

TexansTrueFan · 11-04-2004

no doubt david and johnnson will make champ look silly out there ! We have seen it week in and week out even if its a short short pass johnnson will use his feet and body and totllay make champ look bad ,,,and still get his yards ! The boy is a beast and will get his catches (The out law and his trusty sidekick are going to denver gonna tame some horses)

phan1 · 11-04-2004

Top DBs, in general, are usually at a disadvantage against the top recievers in the league (Moss, Owens, ect.). Especially with the new rules being implemented this year. You really can't expect any DB in the league to stop a WR like AJ. But what Champ is going to do is limit opportunities for AJ, and that's something he can do. I really hope our Oline does well so we can get some deep ones to AJ so he can really try to break this game open.

Blake · 11-04-2004

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Originally Posted by BradK10

what are you, the posting police?

Nope. But learn how to use the quote tags smarty. Its really not that hard...

Blake · 11-04-2004

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Originally Posted by georgewashington

Chad may be a little bit faster than AJ.

See how easy that was Brad?

TheTim5125 · 11-04-2004

Chump Bailey is amazing but AJ is big and physical and Chump might have a hard time... Derrick Armstrong caught a touchdown does anyone remember who he caught it against in pre-season.

ledzeppelin229 · 11-04-2004

I think the speed issue in comparison to Chad is pretty minimal and irrelevant. I haven't seen Andre really just blow by anyone on a deep route but when he gets good positioning it doesn't matter, he just uses his frame to block out the DB and if Carr gets the throw right, he's the only one with a real shot to catch it.

The good thing about Armstrong is that while he may not have top tier speed, as the #4 guy he's getting matched up with nickels and safeties, who he seems to generally out run. He's also a pretty big guy with great hands so the shorter DBs will always have some disadvantage.

With our receivers it's all about matchups. If they go 1 on 1 with Andre, they're gambling. If they double him, they're gambling with Gaffney/Bradford/Armstrong. I really haven't seen single man coverage shutting down any of our receivers, so there's always going to be someone open if Carr can get them the ball.

El Tejano · 11-04-2004

To me it seemed like when Andre had these well talked about corners trying to cover him, he stepped up his game even more to hush people. My example is the Raider game. All you heard about was Woodson and Buchanan and he made them look silly. Here is hoping for the same result against Bailey.

On the reverse side, how do you think we fair against Lelie and RSmith? Doesn't Bailey line up at WR also?

ledzeppelin229 · 11-04-2004

I think that depends on how we do against Plummer. If we get a lead and rattle him up a little, games just about over the way I see it. We're tied for the lead in interceptions (12) and Plummer sometimes gets "DBs" and "Denver Broncos" confused.

El Tejano · 11-04-2004

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Originally Posted by ledzeppelin269

Plummer sometimes gets "DBs" and "Denver Broncos" confused.

Nice! Very Funny. Pretty creative man. I sure hope that is the case come Sunday.

TexansTrueFan · 11-04-2004

yeah we got something special when we drafted him and everyone knows it ! I bet detroit feels dumb they passed Johnnson for Rogers !

HardCoreTxn · 11-04-2004

I think by seasons end, AJ will be the talk!!,....not T.O/Moss :hehe:

11-03-2004	#29
Rosusu All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columba, SC GO GAMECOCKS! Age: 27 Posts: 535 Rep Power: 9	Great article about dre on the front page of sportsline.com, we are finally getting some coverage around here! __________________ In Kubiak I trust!

11-04-2004	#34
TheTim5125 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Age: 26 Posts: 349 Rep Power: 9	Chump Bailey is amazing but AJ is big and physical and Chump might have a hard time... Derrick Armstrong caught a touchdown does anyone remember who he caught it against in pre-season. __________________ Carr to Johnson...... Touch Down

11-04-2004	#40
HardCoreTxn Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 228 Rep Power: 9	Andre's the man! I think by seasons end, AJ will be the talk!!,....not T.O/Moss :hehe:

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11-03-2004	#23
Andre_Johnson80 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 9	AJ most def got size on him but Champs got some ups. I say he works over the middle, that's where AJ will hurt Denver

11-03-2004	#28
wolf123 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 27 Posts: 694 Rep Power: 1857	If chad johnson with carson palmer throwing him the ball was able to tear up champ than i see no reason why andre johnson with david carr can't tear up champ too. andre is a much better receiver than chad. and if champ is vonuerable to deep passes than andre definatly has the advantage their.

11-04-2004	#30
TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Huntsville Tx Age: 28 Posts: 2,600 Rep Power: 11	no doubt david and johnnson will make champ look silly out there ! We have seen it week in and week out even if its a short short pass johnnson will use his feet and body and totllay make champ look bad ,,,and still get his yards ! The boy is a beast and will get his catches (The out law and his trusty sidekick are going to denver gonna tame some horses)

11-04-2004	#31
phan1 All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 650 Rep Power: 9	Top DBs, in general, are usually at a disadvantage against the top recievers in the league (Moss, Owens, ect.). Especially with the new rules being implemented this year. You really can't expect any DB in the league to stop a WR like AJ. But what Champ is going to do is limit opportunities for AJ, and that's something he can do. I really hope our Oline does well so we can get some deep ones to AJ so he can really try to break this game open.

11-04-2004	#36
El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	To me it seemed like when Andre had these well talked about corners trying to cover him, he stepped up his game even more to hush people. My example is the Raider game. All you heard about was Woodson and Buchanan and he made them look silly. Here is hoping for the same result against Bailey. On the reverse side, how do you think we fair against Lelie and RSmith? Doesn't Bailey line up at WR also?

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