Dre vs. Champ - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

BradK10 · 11-01-2004

Should be a fantastic matchup to watch next week.

**TEXANS84** · 11-01-2004

Hopefully Champ will have a game like he did against the other Johnson.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 11-01-2004

Champ Bailey struggles against big physical receivers. This week will be no different.

**Vinny** · 11-01-2004

That is a bit of an overstatement. Bailey rarely struggles against anyone. He was lit up on prime time a few weeks ago but that was rare.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 11-01-2004

According to a Skins' fan, Champ struggles against speedy receivers and has a tendency to get beat deep which is his biggest weakness.

I must have mixed him up with someone else I was thinking of.

chicagotexan · 11-01-2004

Before the game against Cincy I remember the last time he was smoked. The guy is very good. I think Johnson has the ability to get the upper hand on any CB in the league. But Champ will be his bigget challenge of the season.

Nawzer · 11-01-2004

It should be a great matchup between Champ and Andre Johnson. AJ has already gone up against some pretty good db's, but this will be his toughest test yet. The one good thing though is that we don't need Andre to catch 10 balls every game. David Carr is spreading the ball around very nicely so it shouldn't be that much of a problem.

ccdude730 · 11-01-2004

with champs skill that he is supposed to have do you think they will leave him 1 on 1 with AJ more often or will they keep a safety over him?

georgewashington · 11-01-2004

They left him one on one with Chad Johnson for most of the game last monday so they will probably do the same with AJ. Chad may be a little bit faster than AJ, but the two are very similar, and AJ is probably more physical. I think the Texans can exploit the same thing as the bengals. Also, the other receivers will also be very capable of making the big plays as well. They just need to watch out for Lynch coming across and knocking them out. They need to look for the deep balls, outs, and shorter slants. DD should have some good receiving chances as well.

RTP2110 · 11-01-2004

They didn't trade away Portis for a CB that needs saftery help. Bailey will be 1 on 1 with any WR he lines up againt. AJ will have make some plays against Champ. Probably not to the extent that Chad Johson did, but he will make some plays. At the same time Champ will make his plays. Let's hope that this is the game that the run game breaks out. DD looked VERY good against Denver in the preseason.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 11-01-2004

Lynch is injured. He won't play next week.

LoNghoRn-TeXaN · 11-01-2004

Is he definitely out or is he just probable or even questionable?

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 11-01-2004

definitely out. 2 to 4 weeks

LoNghoRn-TeXaN · 11-01-2004

I dont like saying this, but this just helps us and our passing game. DD could have a big day, with John Lynch out.

Grid · 11-01-2004

Speaking of bradford healthy.. I know its a tendency of the fans to jump the gun on personel moves.. but WHY arent we seeing more of armstrong? Obviously Gaffney and Johnson are playing well together.. Bradford HAS had a fairly good couple of games.. but every time Johnson is in the game he seems to make a big play.

If Bradford is not 100%.. then why dont we put Armstrong in and give Bradford a week of playing 4th WR to heal up? it would be nice to see if Armstrong can handle the pressure of being out there on a regular basis.

TexansTrueFan · 11-01-2004

i agree, plus braford is going to be a free agent after this season and i doubt we'll resign him so we should give armstrong as much play time as possible. Plus he is the future there once braford is gone !

Fiddy · 11-01-2004

While AJ vs. Champ will be fun to watch, I think the most important matchup will be Herdon vs. Gaffney. Gaffney has really come on and Herdon was beat deep a couple of times by Peerless Price..

BradK10 · 11-01-2004

Quote:

Chad may be a little bit faster than AJ,

thats laughable

Rosusu · 11-01-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grid

WHY arent we seeing more of armstrong?

Bradford is more of a deep threat than armstrong. He has more speed, armstrong is more of a possession guy.

Grid · 11-01-2004

yah I understand that.. but the bulk of our 20+ yard catches have been made by Johnson and Gaffney.. and the bulk of our 40+ yard catches have been made by Johnson (this is a correct statement isnt it?.. i cant get NFL.com to load up so I havent been able to check that :P)

it is great to have a deep threat like Bradford.. but it isnt a NECESSITY. Anquan Boldin isnt a deep threat either.. but you wouldnt play Bradford over him would you? Armstrong is looking like a playmaker.. and you want your playmakers ON THE FIELD.

11-01-2004	#1
BradK10 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Age: 33 Posts: 1,097 Rep Power: 10	Dre vs. Champ Should be a fantastic matchup to watch next week. __________________ For the love of God, I'm from Houston, NOT Arizona. I only live here.

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Nawzer Alienz Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 30 Posts: 6,084 Rep Power: 14368	It should be a great matchup between Champ and Andre Johnson. AJ has already gone up against some pretty good db's, but this will be his toughest test yet. The one good thing though is that we don't need Andre to catch 10 balls every game. David Carr is spreading the ball around very nicely so it shouldn't be that much of a problem. __________________ Fortune favors the brave NOT the stupid!

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ccdude730 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Corpus Christi Posts: 1,615 Rep Power: 128	with champs skill that he is supposed to have do you think they will leave him 1 on 1 with AJ more often or will they keep a safety over him? __________________

11-01-2004	#17
Fiddy Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Age: 25 Posts: 4,314 Rep Power: 17	While AJ vs. Champ will be fun to watch, I think the most important matchup will be Herdon vs. Gaffney. Gaffney has really come on and Herdon was beat deep a couple of times by Peerless Price.. __________________ 'Anyone ready to go outside so I can make you look bad?' - Matt Schaub talking to the DBs

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11-01-2004	#2
TEXANS84 Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Age: 35 Posts: 7,447 Rep Power: 3116	Hopefully Champ will have a game like he did against the other Johnson.

11-01-2004	#3
STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	Champ Bailey struggles against big physical receivers. This week will be no different.

11-01-2004	#4
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	That is a bit of an overstatement. Bailey rarely struggles against anyone. He was lit up on prime time a few weeks ago but that was rare.

11-01-2004	#6
chicagotexan All Pro Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 547 Rep Power: 9	Before the game against Cincy I remember the last time he was smoked. The guy is very good. I think Johnson has the ability to get the upper hand on any CB in the league. But Champ will be his bigget challenge of the season.

11-01-2004	#9
georgewashington Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 129 Rep Power: 9	They left him one on one with Chad Johnson for most of the game last monday so they will probably do the same with AJ. Chad may be a little bit faster than AJ, but the two are very similar, and AJ is probably more physical. I think the Texans can exploit the same thing as the bengals. Also, the other receivers will also be very capable of making the big plays as well. They just need to watch out for Lynch coming across and knocking them out. They need to look for the deep balls, outs, and shorter slants. DD should have some good receiving chances as well.

11-01-2004	#10
RTP2110 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Shore Age: 33 Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 1845	They didn't trade away Portis for a CB that needs saftery help. Bailey will be 1 on 1 with any WR he lines up againt. AJ will have make some plays against Champ. Probably not to the extent that Chad Johson did, but he will make some plays. At the same time Champ will make his plays. Let's hope that this is the game that the run game breaks out. DD looked VERY good against Denver in the preseason.

11-01-2004	#12
LoNghoRn-TeXaN Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, TX Age: 28 Posts: 120 Rep Power: 9	Is he definitely out or is he just probable or even questionable?

11-01-2004	#15
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	Speaking of bradford healthy.. I know its a tendency of the fans to jump the gun on personel moves.. but WHY arent we seeing more of armstrong? Obviously Gaffney and Johnson are playing well together.. Bradford HAS had a fairly good couple of games.. but every time Johnson is in the game he seems to make a big play. If Bradford is not 100%.. then why dont we put Armstrong in and give Bradford a week of playing 4th WR to heal up? it would be nice to see if Armstrong can handle the pressure of being out there on a regular basis.

11-01-2004	#16
TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Huntsville Tx Age: 28 Posts: 2,600 Rep Power: 11	i agree, plus braford is going to be a free agent after this season and i doubt we'll resign him so we should give armstrong as much play time as possible. Plus he is the future there once braford is gone !

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