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Old 11-01-2004   #21
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The Edge wont be leaving Indy , you can forget it
How do you figure? He already said he wants to play in Miami and there is no way Indy can afford to keep Peyton, James, and Harrison who will also be a free agent next year.
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This team has some talent at RB with DD and JW but neither one of them is a gamebreaking running back. DD did well in his first year as a rookie but this year he hasn't done much to impress me or probably anyone else. He is still owed either 2-3 years on his contract. If any of you watch college football than you would know that there are a couple of big named backs coming up this year and next year. Cedric Benson of Texas is entering the Draft this year and he will be a good one but more important in 2 years Adrian Peterson of OU will be entering and if he gets any better than he is know he will be The Running back in the Draft in 2 years. The teams best bet is to just draft another back within the next two years if DD can't get the job done. Let me know your thoughts...
Just keep in mind that in the 2002 draft Clinton Portis was sitting there for us with that 33 selection! Not selecting him bothered me then and it bothers me now!
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You guy's may be right about Edgerrin goin to Miami but the Dolts could still slap the franchise tag on him meaning he would stay at least one more year at an avg of the top five paid players at his positions salaries ( that would probably be less than his asking price).
I think he's on the downside of his carreer . He may have a couple productive years left but is most likely gonna ask for a 6+ year deal , then end up like Eddie George was at the begining of this season , over paid and over the hill (a couple seasons from now) .
The Dolts are gonne have cap problems for as far as the eye can see with Peytons big contract ..... they did it to themselves . Those type of contracts in a league with a cap are like wearing lead boots .
As far as playing in Miami , the dolphins are in sad shape , not so sure I'd leave a team with a chance (although the window of opportinity may be closing FAST) to win it all for a cellar dwellar (Miami will be bad for a couple seasons , they have more problems than one player can fix)
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Just keep in mind that in the 2002 draft Clinton Portis was sitting there for us with that 33 selection! Not selecting him bothered me then and it bothers me now!
31 other teams passed him too. Most of them are over it by now. You really ought to let go one of these years. You post this comment about every 10 posts it seems.
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I don't see it happening, but Shaun Alexander is a free agent after this season, and it would be nice to have a back with that body type, not to mention skill set.
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If any of you watch college football than you would know that there are a couple of big named backs coming up this year and next year. Cedric Benson of Texas is entering the Draft this year and he will be a good one but more important in 2 years Adrian Peterson of OU will be entering and if he gets any better than he is know he will be The Running back in the Draft in 2 years. The teams best bet is to just draft another back within the next two years if DD can't get the job done. Let me know your thoughts...
Well. with Peterson, you'd have to have the TOP pick in the draft. With Benson, he'd probably be one of the top 10 picks in the draft.

Do you plan on the Texans being that bad of a football team to have that high of a pick? FORGET IT! The Texans will probably in the 20th pick or higher range this season, and even higher next season, and those players you mentioned will be long gone.
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well here's a thought what about travis henry...with mcgahee taking control of that team you know henry will be trade bait if the upcoming draft...but i don't know if i take a chance on a guy who has yet to stay healthy through a whole season...so maybe a 3rd round pick for him...but as for the draft i do see us drafting a back on the first day...the running game is so cretical for capers offense...i've yet to hear anyone mention cadillac williams...he's a sure first rounder if you ask me...way better than benson...but 3rd round material would be in jj arrington of cal and vernon morency(not sure on the spelling) from osu...both very capiable backs both excellent speed and size
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31 other teams passed him too. Most of them are over it by now. You really ought to let go one of these years. You post this comment about every 10 posts it seems.
The fact that other teams in the NFL passed on Portis for some strange reason does not make me feel much better! I only care who WE missed out on! As for me mentioning it before...yep, I guilty of that because to me it's a big deal when opportunity is there and we blinked! Reality is sometimes harsh and the reality is we stepped over a factor back like Portis to select a "nice" WR like Gaffney.
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We def. need to beef up the O-line. If we can get them to be solid we can put anyone at runnning back and it wouldn't matter. Look at Denver they have like 9 RB's on the roster( exagerating(spelling)) and the all have success with that offense.
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well here's a thought what about travis henry...with mcgahee taking control of that team you know henry will be trade bait if the upcoming draft...but i don't know if i take a chance on a guy who has yet to stay healthy through a whole season...so maybe a 3rd round pick for him...but as for the draft i do see us drafting a back on the first day...the running game is so cretical for capers offense...i've yet to hear anyone mention cadillac williams...he's a sure first rounder if you ask me...way better than benson...but 3rd round material would be in jj arrington of cal and vernon morency(not sure on the spelling) from osu...both very capiable backs both excellent speed and size
Vernon or Cadillac would both be very good picks if you can find them in the 3rd round, but back 2 years ago I didn't expect Lee Suggs and Chris Brown to still be available in the 3rd and 4th round but they where and look at them, they where steals.. Your right, I guess we should wait till the third round since we have two thirds....Unless DD starts to get on a roll then we can just forget about all of this.
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Well. with Peterson, you'd have to have the TOP pick in the draft. With Benson, he'd probably be one of the top 10 picks in the draft.
You must remember that The #1 rated RB (Jackson) went 24th last draft. And the year before that it was #23 with Willis.

We CAN get the #1 RB with our first pick. Even #2 and #3 arent bad picks.

#1 Benson
#2 Williams
#3 Brown
#4 J.J. Arrington, RB, California (SR)
#5 Vernand Morency, RB, Oklahoma St. (JR)

#3-#5 are second round picks though.
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It will be a interesting Draft when the time comes..
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It will be a interesting Draft when the time comes..
I am not in a hurry to get to the draft though...
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Ronnie Brown is our guy if he makes it to the 2nd round.
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Lets hope RBs go late in the draft again this year
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The fact that other teams in the NFL passed on Portis for some strange reason does not make me feel much better! I only care who WE missed out on! As for me mentioning it before...yep, I guilty of that because to me it's a big deal when opportunity is there and we blinked! Reality is sometimes harsh and the reality is we stepped over a factor back like Portis to select a "nice" WR like Gaffney.


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There are things we all wish we could go back and change ..... unfortunately we cant .

Lets Learn from our mistakes and focus on the future .
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There are hundreds of NFL stars picked in round 2 or 3, or 4 or 5, 6 or 7th rounds that teams passed on over the years that teams would go back and take if they had to do it over. Besides if you think Portis's production has declined at Washington what do you think it would have looked like our first season? It's not like we were a mature team and was one key back away from contention. We needed to fill and entire NFL roster and 22 starting positions. It's not like we have had bad drafts. I can criticize all 32 teams drafts by cherry picking names later and playing the shoulda, woulda, coulda game. There is no team that has an ideal draft every year. None. To take one pick and drone on endlessly about how big a mistake it was is ridiculous. Heck, it's been THREE years! Too bad it set this franchise and the other 30 teams that passed him back nearly 5 years. The entire NFL may not be able to overcome this. The Broncos have won all those Super Bowls with Portis and the Skins are well on their way to the crown because Clinton Portis is their feature back. The horror of passing on Portis continues to haunt us as well as the Browns, Lions, Patriots, Bills, Eagles, and...
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If we get Ronnie Brown in the draft I will be a happy guy. But I don't see him making it out of the first round, and since we're looking D it seems sort of unlikely.

Don't forget people were predicting Willis for our #3 AJ pick until he blew out his knee. That's the only reason he fell that far. (Would have been farther if the Bills hadn't gambled)
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If we get Ronnie Brown in the draft I will be a happy guy. But I don't see him making it out of the first round, and since we're looking D it seems sort of unlikely.

Don't forget people were predicting Willis for our #3 AJ pick until he blew out his knee. That's the only reason he fell that far. (Would have been farther if the Bills hadn't gambled)
Yeah but look at Willis Now, He is a good strong runner and his stiff arm puts people on the ground every game. I have always been a bills fan but I have always had much respect for this young Texans team and always will. The RB situation in Buffalo leaves me to believe Travis Henry will be traded for a draft pick at seasons end. Buffalo has the worst Oline in the game and for willis to come in and on both of his starts to post 100 yrd games is special. I was glad to see him go to buffalo in the draft but, I wanted to move up to get either AJ or Terrell suggs which I knew would never happen. AJ was a great pick for the Texans in that draft and I bet David Carr couldn't have been any happier about the pick.
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