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Old 10-31-2004   #1
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Im tired of all this Babin is improving talk. Did anyone watch him today, his pass rush is terrible. He got pressure twice, once Byron completed a 20 yard pass still, and the other time he wiffed and missed a sack. And if you watch the tackle even cheated by letting him get a step high because everytime he rolled back to the inside. And half of the spins he stopped halfway around and just stood there with his back to the ball. He made one good open field tackle, but most of the time he is just standing around. You cant really be improving much when you dont do anything. He is very over rated.
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Im tired of all this Babin is improving talk. Did anyone watch him today, his pass rush is terrible. He got pressure twice, once Byron completed a 20 yard pass still, and the other time he wiffed and missed a sack. And if you watch the tackle even cheated by letting him get a step high because everytime he rolled back to the inside. And half of the spins he stopped halfway around and just stood there with his back to the ball. He made one good open field tackle, but most of the time he is just standing around. You cant really be improving much when you dont do anything. He is very over rated.
He's a rookie making a transition from DE to OLB, it will take time. Why are you always complaing about him anyway, you know Robinson has made some rookie mistakes also, but I am pleased with both of their play this season.
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Not only that, but our defense played great today. We stopped the run game, and we did get pressure on Leftwich. We played as a cohesive unit today, and as a cohesive unit, Babin played great today. I don't think we can complain about his performance. Did he miss any big plays today? No. Did he do what was asked of him? Yes. Also, every time we blitzed today, we got great pressure on the QB. We did not get beat on a blitz at all today. You can't expect Babin to get sacks with a 4-man rush. We even put a good amount of pressure with our 3-man rushes. This has absolutely been our best defensive effort all year.

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We used to have Gaffney trolls when Gaff was developing too. It took a year and a half for Gaff to get his game up to the NFL level. We give up ZERO TD's and Babin is the bad guy once again for good ol George here. You are certainly our number one Babin troll though. I got to hand it to you.

Give the guy time to develop. Sheesh.
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Its not the development Im talking about, I realize that and dont disagree. I may be a troll but its because of the multiple times he gives up during plays. You cant give up after trying one move on a pass rush. Watch the game and you will see that if the move doesnt work he stands up and does try a second move. That has nothing to do with changing positions or being a rookie. And how about the genius comment by the other guy "you cant expect him to get a sack on a four man rush", are you kidding me, you are telling me that DE and DT, and in our case OLB arent supposed to get sacks with out a blitz? If you are getting one on one blocking, you should be expected to beat that man at some points in the game.
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Last time I checked the Jags didn't run the ball too well at Babin and that is a big part of playing defense. Babin is going to be fine. We had an outstanding day defensively.

Every week you come in here and bash him like he ran off with your wife. Give it a rest whydontcha.
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didnt run too well at him? they only ran 10 times. I bash him because there is no excuse for giving up on a pash rush. and if you watched he really didnt collapse the pocket that well, and yes i do say this every week because it happens every week. call me a babin hater or whatever else but as long as i see him giving up on plays before they are over there is not going to be any respect from me, no excuse to stopping during a play with your back to the ball that many times.
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i thought master was usually a good thing.
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He is using sarcasm since he comes in every week and bashes Babin.
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...call me a babin hater...
OK, you're a Babin hater. 26 of your 37 posts have bashed Babin. That says it all.
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call me a babin hater or whatever else but as long as i see him giving up on plays before they are over there is not going to be any respect from me, no excuse to stopping during a play with your back to the ball that many times.
It just really amazes me sometimes how impatient you and others are with rookies.

When David Carr was a rookie, look at how disappointed all of you were with him. In his third season, are you disappointed with him now?

When Jabar Gaffney was a rookie, look at how disappointed all of you were with him. In his third season, are you disappointed with him now?

georgewashington, 3 years from now, I want you to tell me how disappointed you are with Jason Babin.
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Sheesh I thought Babin played a good game ...... several pressures ..... I'm beginning to smell a rat in George's weekly Babin bashing ....

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Babin had 3 solo tackles and at least two QB pressures, I think that is pretty good for a rookie.
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Why everytime we win a game somebody has to ***** about something? Why look at the negatives! If babin wasnt doing good, we have a solid group of linebackers that could replace him. The coaches obviously see something in him. Please let everyone enjoy the win for at least 3 hours at least before you bring up what you didnt like about our awesome victory over the jags.
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I have a feeling that even if Babin was the illegitimate love child of LT/Ray Lewis/ Mike Singletary (take that image with you when you sleep tonight) that georgy would still bash Babin. Does he need to break the single season sack record for you to stop bashing him? Or would you find a way to bash him on the "way" he got sacks? This is becoming alot like the "Fire so and so" threads.
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Yes you are all correct, except that you did not respond to my main point. I said i dont like how he would give up so much on his rushes. and i agree he probably will be good in a few years, but that doesnt mean i have to like the lack of hustle i saw. he did have some good plays today, but thats no reason to stop in the middle of a spin move with your back to the QB who still has the ball.
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Last time I checked the Jags didn't run the ball too well at Babin and that is a big part of playing defense. Babin is going to be fine. We had an outstanding day defensively.

Every week you come in here and bash him like he ran off with your wife. Give it a rest whydontcha.



. 39 TOTAL RUSHING YARDS for the Jag's ..... Nuff said.
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yeah i dont think you can call it a lack of effort when they only gained 39 rushing yards on us !!! and ya know some of the guys he's trying to spin off of our pretty big atleast he was attempting i've seen guys just stand their in a stale mate and try nothing !!! Be happy they didnt have a big day on us ,,,passing our rushing do our D and babin had to do something right !
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I thought Babin had a good game today.
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