Is kicker a need for us? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**gtexan02** · 05-01-2007

I remember one mock had us taking a kicker in the 3rd.

I remember KB shanking a good number of kicks over the last 2 years, and failing to register a significant number of touchbacks.

And then I saw Mason Crosby from Colorado (the guy with the 60 yard leg) fall to us in the 6th round, and watched as we passed him up.

Whats the deal? Are we giving KB some more time due to his Indy game winning FG or what?

**Cjeremy635** · 05-01-2007

I don't know Gtex...hopefully we will pick someone up around the June 1st cuts or sometime before training camp.....and may the best man win. As it stands right now, I would like to see Kris get cut due to his declining accuracy over the past couple of seasons. I'm too lazy to check it out, but I wonder how many games we've lost in the last few years, by 3 points or less, where we would have won had he made a field goal he missed at some point in the game. Does that make any sense? I'm not asking for specific game winning drive field goals, but games in which we could have won if one was made that was missed during the 4 quarters of play.

**HOU-TEX** · 05-01-2007

IIRC, wasn't there an article or something about how Brown switched his kicking style a year or two ago, then switched back due to performance? I could be wrong, but he began kicking with more accuracy afterwards. I'd still hope for some sort of competition for him in camp.

Am I still allowed to post here?

bigbrewster2000 · 05-01-2007

I think that KB will be fine. I was just happy to see uss grab a Punter in the UDFA pool because Punter is a much larger issue IMO.

76Texan · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

IIRC, wasn't there an article or something about how Brown switched his kicking style a year or two ago, then switched back due to performance? I could be wrong, but he began kicking with more accuracy afterwards. I'd still hope for some sort of competition for him in camp.

Am I still allowed to post here?

I heard something like that.
I like Brown, but seems like he's just about average.
Yeah, I'd like to see come competition in camp, too!

whatcha mean by allowing to post?

76Texan · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by bigbrewster2000

I think that KB will be fine. I was just happy to see uss grab a Punter in the UDFA pool because Punter is a much larger issue IMO.

Yes, but it would never hurt when we improve any position we can.

**infantrycak** · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by bigbrewster2000

I think that KB will be fine. I was just happy to see uss grab a Punter in the UDFA pool because Punter is a much larger issue IMO.

We did--Eric Wilbur from Florida.

powerfuldragon · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

We did--Eric Wilbur from Florida.

boo. hiss.

hadaad · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by PowerfulDragon

boo. hiss.

Come on, PD. You know.

You know.

That's why your boo and hiss were all lower-case.

You know.

It's time.

**PapaL** · 05-01-2007

I wouldnt mind bringing in some folks to challenge Kris. Guys like Olindo Mare and such, who were once top notch and maybe needed a change of scenary.

**HOU-TEX** · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by 76Texan

I heard something like that.
I like Brown, but seems like he's just about average.
Yeah, I'd like to see come competition in camp, too!

whatcha mean by allowing to post?

I used to frequent the old board and was unaware of this one taking it's place. I guess since it allowed me to post, nothing's really changed much. This board is by far the better of all the boards.

powerfuldragon · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by hadaad

Come on, PD. You know.

You know.

That's why your boo and hiss were all lower-case.

You know.

It's time.

i just....

it's so hard to let go...

76Texan · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

I used to frequent the old board and was unaware of this one taking it's place. I guess since it allowed me to post, nothing's really changed much. This board is by far the better of all the boards.

keep on trucking then!

bigbrewster2000 · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

We did--Eric Wilbur from Florida.

I know that is what I said.

**eriadoc** · 05-01-2007

Kris Brown's accuracy from 30-39, over the last three years, has bothered me a lot. It bothered me enough to look up a few stats.

FGs from 30-39 over the past three seasons

Kris Brown 18/27 .666 (60/76 career, which is .789)
David Akers 16/20 .800
Rob Bironas 13/14 .929 (only 2 years)
Matt Bryant 15/16 .938 (no attempts in 2004)
Phil Dawson 24/29 .828
Jason Elam 22/23 .957 (115/125 for career at that range)
Jay Feely 30/34 .882

I got tired of going through kickers alphabetically at that point, but I'm pretty sure my point is made.

**HOU-TEX** · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

Kris Brown's accuracy from 30-39, over the last three years, has bothered me a lot. It bothered me enough to look up a few stats.

FGs from 30-39 over the past three seasons

Kris Brown 18/27 .666 (60/76 career, which is .789)
David Akers 16/20 .800
Rob Bironas 13/14 .929 (only 2 years)
Matt Bryant 15/16 .938 (no attempts in 2004)
Phil Dawson 24/29 .828
Jason Elam 22/23 .957 (115/125 for career at that range)
Jay Feely 30/34 .882

I got tired of going through kickers alphabetically at that point, but I'm pretty sure my point is made.

Indeed! Let the kicking competition begin.

**Specnatz** · 05-01-2007

can we haire this guy to do the job, he seems pretty accurate.

The1ApplePie · 05-01-2007

KB was good for shanking FGs to get the first pick in the later parts of 2005, but he is alright.

I'd rather have him than Cortez or Vandershank.

What's Paul Edinger up to these days?

**gtexan02** · 05-01-2007

So was no one els eshocked to watch Crosby go by us in the 6th?

Errant Hothy · 05-01-2007

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Originally Posted by gtexan02

So was no one els eshocked to watch Crosby go by us in the 6th?

Was Crosby even the first kicker taken?

05-01-2007	#1
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	Is kicker a need for us? I remember one mock had us taking a kicker in the 3rd. I remember KB shanking a good number of kicks over the last 2 years, and failing to register a significant number of touchbacks. And then I saw Mason Crosby from Colorado (the guy with the 60 yard leg) fall to us in the 6th round, and watched as we passed him up. Whats the deal? Are we giving KB some more time due to his Indy game winning FG or what? __________________ Adios until next season. See you then

05-01-2007	#2
Cjeremy635 Overtraining Join Date: May 2005 Location: Huffman, Texas Age: 35 Posts: 7,649 Rep Power: 28643	I don't know Gtex...hopefully we will pick someone up around the June 1st cuts or sometime before training camp.....and may the best man win. As it stands right now, I would like to see Kris get cut due to his declining accuracy over the past couple of seasons. I'm too lazy to check it out, but I wonder how many games we've lost in the last few years, by 3 points or less, where we would have won had he made a field goal he missed at some point in the game. Does that make any sense? I'm not asking for specific game winning drive field goals, but games in which we could have won if one was made that was missed during the 4 quarters of play. __________________ If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you'll find an excuse.

05-01-2007	#3
HOU-TEX Ah, Football! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: P-land Age: 42 Posts: 14,149 Rep Power: 19780	IIRC, wasn't there an article or something about how Brown switched his kicking style a year or two ago, then switched back due to performance? I could be wrong, but he began kicking with more accuracy afterwards. I'd still hope for some sort of competition for him in camp. Am I still allowed to post here? __________________ "We wanted to make a statement, run the ball and make them like it." - Duane Brown

05-01-2007	#10
PapaL Loose Screw Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 8,638 Rep Power: 17051	I wouldnt mind bringing in some folks to challenge Kris. Guys like Olindo Mare and such, who were once top notch and maybe needed a change of scenary. __________________ Tried and true, I'm rep'in Texan (Steel) Blue.

05-01-2007	#15
eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,354 Rep Power: 69629	Kris Brown's accuracy from 30-39, over the last three years, has bothered me a lot. It bothered me enough to look up a few stats. FGs from 30-39 over the past three seasons Kris Brown 18/27 .666 (60/76 career, which is .789) David Akers 16/20 .800 Rob Bironas 13/14 .929 (only 2 years) Matt Bryant 15/16 .938 (no attempts in 2004) Phil Dawson 24/29 .828 Jason Elam 22/23 .957 (115/125 for career at that range) Jay Feely 30/34 .882 I got tired of going through kickers alphabetically at that point, but I'm pretty sure my point is made. __________________ “The Conservative’s first concern will always be: Are we maximizing freedom?” - Barry Goldwater

05-01-2007	#4
bigbrewster2000 4th Infantry Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Woodlands Age: 35 Posts: 1,332 Rep Power: 4861	I think that KB will be fine. I was just happy to see uss grab a Punter in the UDFA pool because Punter is a much larger issue IMO.

05-01-2007	#17
Specnatz Site Contributor Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,620 Rep Power: 3239	can we haire this guy to do the job, he seems pretty accurate. __________________ The Invisible Poster! Cynic at work, do not mind me; move along nothing to see here!

05-01-2007	#18
The1ApplePie Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 7,796 Rep Power: 19070	KB was good for shanking FGs to get the first pick in the later parts of 2005, but he is alright. I'd rather have him than Cortez or Vandershank. What's Paul Edinger up to these days?

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