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View Poll Results: Who would you rather start at SS next year ?
C.C Brown 18 19.78%
Glen Earl 73 80.22%
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Old 03-27-2007   #1
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Default C.C Brown Vs. Glenn Earl

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I know this topic has been discussed a few times, but seeing that the draft is around the corner, and most(if not all) are hoping for a new FS, I thought I'd bring it back up. IMO, both of these guys are strong safeties, and neither is suited to play the Free.

Here are C.C's career stats:

2005: 79 Tackles, 1 int, 1 pass deflections, 1 forced fumble
2006: 76 Tackles, 1 int, 4 pass deflections, 1 forced fumble, 1 sack

Here are Earl's career stats:

2004: 44 Tackles
2005: 35 Tackles, 2 Int, 3 pass deflections
2006: 74 Tackles, 1 int, 3 pass deflections, 1 forced fumble, 2 sacks

I remember C.C's rookie year, he lead the team in tackles through a good portion of the beggining of the season. I really liked C.C as a rookie playing SS. Of course he made rookie mistakes, but I thought he was very active and had good instincts at the position. He was also, IMO, very fast to the ball carrier. Originally I think I may have wanted Earl to play the position, but thinking about it, I'd rather have C.C start at the Strong Safety position. He's not as big as Earl, but he hits just as hard. I don't have their actual 40 times, but to me it seems as if C.C plays faster. I also like how C.C plays around the line of scrimmage.

Who would you rather start ?

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Default Re: C.C Brown Vs. Glenn Earl

Good thread for discussion. IMO, it's a toss up. I think they're similar in the way they play. Although I voted for Earl, they both have decent ability to play the position. Earl just seems to lay the wood a little harder than C.C.
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Default Re: C.C Brown Vs. Glenn Earl

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I know this topic has been discussed a few times, but seeing that the draft is around the corner, and most(if not all) are hoping for a new FS, I thought I'd bring it back up. IMO, both of these guys are strong safeties, and neither is suited to play the Free.

Here are C.C's career stats:

2005: 79 Tackles, 1 int, 1 pass deflections, 1 forced fumble
2006: 76 Tackles, 1 int, 4 pass deflections, 1 forced fumble, 1 sack

Here are Earl's career stats:

2004: 44 Tackles
2005: 35 Tackles, 2 Int, 3 pass deflections
2006: 74 Tackles, 1 int, 3 pass deflections, 1 forced fumble, 2 sacks

I remember C.C's rookie year, he lead the team in tackles through a good portion of the beggining of the season. I really liked C.C as a rookie playing SS. Of course he made rookie mistakes, but I thought he was very active and had good instincts at the position. He was also, IMO, very fast to the ball carrier. Originally I think I may have wanted Earl to play the position, but I thinking about it, I'd rather have C.C start at the Strong Safety position. He's not as big as Earl, but he hits just as hard. I don't have their actual 40 times, but to me it seems as if C.C plays faster. I also like how C.C plays around the line of scrimmage.

Who would you rather start ?
I'm in favor of moving Glenn Earl and starting him at FS. That's where he played at ND if I'm not mistaken. C.C. should provide depth at SS. If I'm the Texans I'm drafting Aaron Rouse in the 3rd round and letting Rouse battle it out with C.C. in Training Camp.
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Good thread for discussion. IMO, it's a toss up. I think they're similar in the way they play. Although I voted for Earl, they both have decent ability to play the position. Earl just seems to lay the wood a little harder than C.C.
So far it seems as if I'm the only one who likes C.C...

I really don't think it's fair to judge him from this last year because he was playing out of position IMO. IMHO, I think C.C played better or just as good at SS his rookie year that Glen Earl played this past year.

Wouldn't be upset with either, but I think C.C has a chance to be a darn good SS. JMO
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Default Re: C.C Brown Vs. Glenn Earl

I went with CC Brown, but really I can't pin point why... I mean its a toss up as far as I'm concerned.... Maybe because of the story I saw about him when he was being drafted and his duty with the National Guard...
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I voted... but for the wrong guy... Signing off now to drink some coffee.
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Glenn Earl! WOO! Earl all the way!
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Default Re: C.C Brown Vs. Glenn Earl

I have to go with Gleen Earl after he Posterized Shockey
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Default Re: C.C Brown Vs. Glenn Earl

I picked C.C. baby, I say give him the chance and draft a free saftey. I agree with you on the fact that I dont think either one can really play free.
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I have to go with Gleen Earl after he Posterized Shockey
I'm not going to lie...


That was a really nice hit.....Good payback for how Shockey did us in the pre-season his rookie year...
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I like CC at Free Safety. Show me 5 FS with better stats...

He's still young, his DC didn't know what he was doing, his DL didn't know what they were doing, His corners sure as heck didn't know what they were doing.

I'm not saying CC was the only one on the team who knew what he was doing, but I'd totally understand if Smith gets us a CB in the first round, and not a FS.
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I have to go with Gleen Earl after he Posterized Shockey
Exactly.....Shockey got JACKED UP! Love that more so since for the longest of times, the kept replaying when Shockey ran over several Texans his rookie year.
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Default Re: C.C Brown Vs. Glenn Earl

i agree with you kiss...although i have to stay loyal to my earl moniker, i keep hearing (from 26) that safety is an issue but the real help they need is up front. I agree both are ss playing fs, but help up front would make a significant difference for both players---vote earl
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I like CC at Free Safety. Show me 5 FS with better stats...

Making this thread was the first time I actually looked at our safeties stats...

They actually both had quite a few tackles...Both had Sacks, Int's, and Forced fumbles....

But I still don't like C.C at the free....I don't like his pass coverage skills...He's not really the ball-hawking type I would like to have back there...

But you're absolutely right about the cornerback position...If we went Leon Hall or Chris Houston in the first I wouldn't be mad at that at all...

Though everyone probably knows I'd prefer the Mayor of Hit City.
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ok I have a question. What if we do pick Hall or a stud corner do you think we can move Flanagan(how ever you spell it) to free safety until say a rookie that we draft later (second day or something) can fill in. Im just wondering I know that the corner position is much harder to play then say the free safety IMO.
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ok I have a question. What if we do pick Hall or a stud corner do you think we can move Flanagan(how ever you spell it) to free safety until say a rookie that we draft later (second day or something) can fill in. Im just wondering I know that the corner position is much harder to play then say the free safety IMO.
Faggan's??

I'd still prefer CC to Faggans as a safety. Now Dunta, I'll take Dunta as a safety over CC.
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IMO its Glenn Earl's spot to lose.
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IMO its Glenn Earl's spot to lose.

I dunno...

I'm thinking they put C.C at Free because he's slightly smaller, and probably a bit better at playing deep than Earl although that's not saying much...

I have no idea what the Texans are going to do next, but my guess is that they are going to do like TKyss mentioned, and draft a corner in the first round...

But if they did draft a safety, I dunno that that spot will be Earls to lose...He wasn't any better than C.C last year IMO...
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I dunno...

I'm thinking they put C.C at Free because he's slightly smaller, and probably a bit better at playing deep than Earl although that's not saying much...

I have no idea what the Texans are going to do next, but my guess is that they are going to do like TKyss mentioned, and draft a corner in the first round...

But if they did draft a safety, I dunno that that spot will be Earls to lose...He wasn't any better than C.C last year IMO...
Im not saying that C.C wouldnt earn the spot before preseason ended because I think their is a good chance that he would. For some reason I cant really explain why I just would.
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I like CC at Free Safety. Show me 5 FS with better stats...

He's still young, his DC didn't know what he was doing, his DL didn't know what they were doing, His corners sure as heck didn't know what they were doing.

I'm not saying CC was the only one on the team who knew what he was doing, but I'd totally understand if Smith gets us a CB in the first round, and not a FS.
And to add to this post C.C. didn't know what he was doing I don't know it isn't really about stats as much as it was C.C> was caught out of position alot last year in coverage and pretty consistenly got fooled by play action

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