Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Spled · 03-25-2007

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4659070.html

TwinSisters · 03-25-2007

Yeah, I saw that earlier. Good stuff even from Oliver Luck!

Not so sure about Dan and his knocking of the sidearm. You see more passes knocked down because more passes are called short and underneath, as opposed to something longer on a 5 to 7 step drop.

axman40 · 03-25-2007

A good read much like what has been said for the past __months/years on this board!

Texan Asylum · 03-25-2007

I'm saddened that Carr didn't work out here. He'll always be one of my favorite Texans. I've been a fan since day one, and will continue to follow him no matter where he lands. I truly do hope he finds a team that'll work out for him.

But now we move forward. It's been along time coming. I'm very much encouraged that the team had the fortitude to do what needed to be done.

Enter Schaub stage left. Not only a bright future for him, but one for us Texans as well. Change has been needed for quite some time, and now the fresh air breathed into this team should propel us to the next stage...playoff contention and respectability.

Go Texans and Good Luck David!

Second Honeymoon · 03-25-2007

wow, they all said the same things I have been saying since Day One. i guess they must be 'carr haters' too. i guess i wasnt a 'hater' all along..maybe I was just smarter than you homers. it just speaks volumes on how ignorant the Carr homers were in regards to being objective in their opinions and observations. you lose.

oh and is anyone that surprised that Carr hasnt been picked up yet? i said it before, and I will say it again. the guy sucks as an NFL QB and the fact that he hasnt been signed yet just shows you how poorly he is viewed by anyone outside of the Carr family, outside of California, or those caught up in his image/faith.
dude was a bum and I can't wait to see him continue to prove me more and more right every day....good riddance

Second Honeymoon · 03-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Texan Asylum

I'm saddened that Carr didn't work out here. He'll always be one of my favorite Texans. I've been a fan since day one, and will continue to follow him no matter where he lands. I truly do hope he finds a team that'll work out for him.

But now we move forward. It's been along time coming. I'm very much encouraged that the team had the fortitude to do what needed to be done.

Enter Schaub stage left. Not only a bright future for him, but one for us Texans as well. Change has been needed for quite some time, and now the fresh air breathed into this team should propel us to the next stage...playoff contention and respectability.

Go Texans and Good Luck David!

something tells me that you only may be a little biased towards Carr....enjoy following his career in teh Arena League or Canada.

**Hookem Horns** · 03-25-2007

This says it all ...

"It was Casserly, the Texans' personnel expert, who played the point in selling the Fresno State phenom as possibly another John Elway, Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman, fellow former No. 1 picks who have arrived at, or are headed to, the Hall of Fame."

Gawd I hate that guy.

ledzeppelin229 · 03-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

This says it all ...

"It was Casserly, the Texans' personnel expert, who played the point in selling the Fresno State phenom as possibly another John Elway, Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman, fellow former No. 1 picks who have arrived at, or are headed to, the Hall of Fame."

Gawd I hate that guy.

Sometimes I wonder if he was planted by the other Owners to screw over our franchise for a few years. Maybe it was like freshmen hazing. The guy just made so many decisions that can be best described as "bonehead" that they couldn't all be on accident.

**Trap_Star** · 03-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

This says it all ...

"It was Casserly, the Texans' personnel expert, who played the point in selling the Fresno State phenom as possibly another John Elway, Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman, fellow former No. 1 picks who have arrived at, or are headed to, the Hall of Fame."

Gawd I hate that guy.

[John Granato] WHO DOES'NT!! [/John Granato]

**Vinny** · 03-26-2007

oye

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Further, those who observed Carr in social settings were occasionally surprised by his unworldly behavior. After following Carr for a few holes at a celebrity golf tournament, a prominent local doctor who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject said: "He acted like a teenager. It was hard for me to picture him in a huddle, trying to lead an NFL team."

ledzeppelin229 · 03-26-2007

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Originally Posted by Vinny

oye

Is that pretty standard behavior for DC? And what does the guy mean...teenagerish in that he is joking around too much, or just acting somewhat immature as his personality?

aj. · 03-26-2007

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Originally Posted by Vinny

oye

What's a bit strange is that paragraph is not in the original article (the version I read early Sunday morning in the paper version). I see the article was udpated Sunday afternoon ...

03-26-2007

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Originally Posted by ledzeppelin269

Sometimes I wonder if he was planted by the other Owners to screw over our franchise for a few years. Maybe it was like freshmen hazing. The guy just made so many decisions that can be best described as "bonehead" that they couldn't all be on accident.

The problem was he was a good friend of McNairs. McNair knew nothing about how a team was run or made and gave Casserly free reign to do what he wanted, and McNair trusted him 100%.

aj. · 03-26-2007

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Originally Posted by whiskeyrbl

The problem was he was a good friend of McNairs.

Are you sure about that?

I didn't think they knew each other before '00 or whenever he was hired, and McNair was basing his first GM hire on who was available (CC had just been fired by Snyder) and advice from other owners and football people.

Not saying you're wrong but I can't see where these two guys paths would have crossed before the hiring.

**HoustonFrog** · 03-26-2007

Again, good luck to Carr and his family but I read this article yesterday and just shook my head up and down. These guys said the same things alot of us have been saying all along. You get labeled a hater for saying them but it is just football. If you read what Minn's coach said and look at Moon and Pastorini, I think you get a clearer picture of the true persepctive out there. I think there are alot more out there that don't look at him as a "franchise" guy but just a QB with some skills. It will always come down, at least to me, as the franchise wanting a face for the franchise that was pure compared to someone who might have an edge to them.

NFLforher · 03-26-2007

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Originally Posted by ledzeppelin269

Is that pretty standard behavior for DC? And what does the guy mean...teenagerish in that he is joking around too much, or just acting somewhat immature as his personality?

It means the young California guy wasn't acting as the old southern doctor thought he should.

03-26-2007

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Originally Posted by ledzeppelin269

Is that pretty standard behavior for DC? And what does the guy mean...teenagerish in that he is joking around too much, or just acting somewhat immature as his personality?

I listened to David every Monday morning on 610...

He jokes and laughs about everything...

Even last year when they were showing the Texans training camp, David was joking around a lot..

I'm not against being light hearted and not taking everything so serious, but I think at times he went overboard.

Schaub_to AJ_YES! · 03-26-2007

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Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

This says it all ...

"It was Casserly, the Texans' personnel expert, who played the point in selling the Fresno State phenom as possibly another John Elway, Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman, fellow former No. 1 picks who have arrived at, or are headed to, the Hall of Fame."

Gawd I hate that guy.

Carr was like fools gold. If you were a prospector drilling for oil, and you saw some black goo bubbling up in Texas, when you drilled for oil, after spending a fortune to set up, you would find that you drilled thru a sewage line.

**Texan_Bill** · 03-26-2007

lol at Dan Pastorinin critiquing anyone....

I loved Dante, but seriously, its not as though he ever "lit it up"

NFLforher · 03-26-2007

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Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

lol at Dan Pastorinin critiquing anyone....

I loved Dante, but seriously, its not as though he ever "lit it up"

I was thinking the same thing.

03-25-2007	#1
Spled All Pro Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 761 Rep Power: 50	Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4659070.html

03-25-2007	#2
TwinSisters Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my mind. Posts: 1,470 Rep Power: 11	Re: Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr Yeah, I saw that earlier. Good stuff even from Oliver Luck! Not so sure about Dan and his knocking of the sidearm. You see more passes knocked down because more passes are called short and underneath, as opposed to something longer on a 5 to 7 step drop. __________________ First of all you should always take the best player-Polian.

03-25-2007	#3
axman40 Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin Age: 51 Posts: 20,168 Rep Power: 16113	Re: Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr A good read much like what has been said for the past __months/years on this board! __________________ “The highway’s jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive.”

03-25-2007	#4
Texan Asylum Christian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas Age: 49 Posts: 5,948 Rep Power: 13326	Re: Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr I'm saddened that Carr didn't work out here. He'll always be one of my favorite Texans. I've been a fan since day one, and will continue to follow him no matter where he lands. I truly do hope he finds a team that'll work out for him. But now we move forward. It's been along time coming. I'm very much encouraged that the team had the fortitude to do what needed to be done. Enter Schaub stage left. Not only a bright future for him, but one for us Texans as well. Change has been needed for quite some time, and now the fresh air breathed into this team should propel us to the next stage...playoff contention and respectability. Go Texans and Good Luck David! __________________

03-25-2007	#5
Second Honeymoon Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 5,330 Rep Power: 2730	Re: Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr wow, they all said the same things I have been saying since Day One. i guess they must be 'carr haters' too. i guess i wasnt a 'hater' all along..maybe I was just smarter than you homers. it just speaks volumes on how ignorant the Carr homers were in regards to being objective in their opinions and observations. you lose. oh and is anyone that surprised that Carr hasnt been picked up yet? i said it before, and I will say it again. the guy sucks as an NFL QB and the fact that he hasnt been signed yet just shows you how poorly he is viewed by anyone outside of the Carr family, outside of California, or those caught up in his image/faith. dude was a bum and I can't wait to see him continue to prove me more and more right every day....good riddance __________________ @DougVanHorne on Twitter (CardinalDoug) Last edited by Second Honeymoon; 03-25-2007 at 11:58 PM.

03-25-2007	#7
Hookem Horns Lets Go Rangers Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 31176	Re: Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr This says it all ... "It was Casserly, the Texans' personnel expert, who played the point in selling the Fresno State phenom as possibly another John Elway, Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman, fellow former No. 1 picks who have arrived at, or are headed to, the Hall of Fame." Gawd I hate that guy.

03-26-2007	#15
HoustonFrog Chitown Frog Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chicago Age: 43 Posts: 12,221 Rep Power: 19526	Re: Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr Again, good luck to Carr and his family but I read this article yesterday and just shook my head up and down. These guys said the same things alot of us have been saying all along. You get labeled a hater for saying them but it is just football. If you read what Minn's coach said and look at Moon and Pastorini, I think you get a clearer picture of the true persepctive out there. I think there are alot more out there that don't look at him as a "franchise" guy but just a QB with some skills. It will always come down, at least to me, as the franchise wanting a face for the franchise that was pure compared to someone who might have an edge to them. __________________ Desperation is a stinky cologne. -Super Troopers

03-26-2007	#19
Texan_Bill Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston. Mediocrity Lives Here!! Section: Bull Pen!! Age: 45 Posts: 47,093 Rep Power: 42178	Re: Oiler quarterbacks weigh in on Carr lol at Dan Pastorinin critiquing anyone.... I loved Dante, but seriously, its not as though he ever "lit it up" __________________ DeAndre!

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