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Old 03-22-2007   #1
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Default Vikings disinterest in Carr

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Based on a morning appearance on KFAN, Vikings coach Brad Childress would seem to have little interest in trading for Houston Texans quarterback David Carr.

"David Carr is a tremendous person," Childress said. "I always struggled with where his release came from. It's kind of a drop-down, three-quarter release. ... He can make some of the throws; he can't make all the throws."
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Default Re: Vikings disinterest in Carr

Well, make that 30 teams that want him now.
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Default Re: Vikings disinterest in Carr

I didn't expect them to take David Carr. I would imagine that they're pretty happy with Tarvaris Jackson.

By the way, who is that in your avatar?
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Default Re: Vikings disinterest in Carr

Could be telling the truth...could be trying to diminish his value. (Trying to be optimistic here)


Come on Oakland!
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Default Re: Vikings disinterest in Carr

There's been a lot of "talk" going around.....now we'll see what actually happens.
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I didn't expect them to take David Carr. I would imagine that they're pretty happy with Tarvaris Jackson.

By the way, who is that in your avatar?
if you are talking about mine, then it is Amobi Okoye. i'd to pick up him or Levi Brown.
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I've stated for a while that Carr has a funky hitch and doesn't have a good intermediate or long ball...but the forum called me crazy and a hater. I guess I'm not so bonkers now.


....well, maybe I am and this has nothing to do with it.
vinny... is that glee you write with? i haven't ever seen you as happy as you've been this past day or two.
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vinny... is that glee you write with? i haven't ever seen you as happy as you've been this past day or two.
Ditto, it's almost odd.
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I've stated for a while that Carr has a funky hitch and doesn't have a good intermediate or long ball...but the forum called me crazy and a hater. I guess I'm not so bonkers now.


....well, maybe I am and this has nothing to do with it.
Crazy, bonkers hater. Just like Brad Childress. That guy's been a Carr Hater from day one!



Thanks, DSteve. I wouldn't mind Okoye. His name makes me happy, even if he weren't as good as he likely is.
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Default Re: Vikings disinterest in Carr

vin--
did you add the link? sorry i didnt.
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I haven't been this happy about the direction of this offense for years. I think that we have a young line, a franchise WR, a solid proven NFL back, a QB that has been groomed in the NFL for the last three years, a promising young TE, and the Emperor's New Clothing era is officially over to boot.

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I haven't been this happy about the direction of this offense for years. I think that we have a young line, a franchise WR, a solid proven NFL back, a QB that has been groomed in the NFL for the last three years, a promising young TE, and the Emperor's New Clothing era is officially over to boot.

Check out Vinny using the dancin' Elmo smiley...should we be scared?
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Check out Vinny using the dancin' Elmo smiley...should we be scared?
I am...but I'm just as happy as Vinny is.
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Crazy, bonkers hater. Just like Brad Childress. That guy's been a Carr Hater from day one!
Well, I have to admit that he's been right about Carr from day one, so I give him his props.

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I am...but I'm just as happy as Vinny is.
I'm kinda stoked about it, myself. I think Schaub will flourish with Kubes and Sherman. And I'm so glad Plummer retired, or this deal probably wouldn't have gone down.
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I remember the side-arm delivery being discussed when they drafted Carr.
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I've stated for a while that Carr has a funky hitch and doesn't have a good intermediate or long ball...but the forum called me crazy and a hater. I guess I'm not so bonkers now.


....well, maybe I am and this has nothing to do with it.
vinny, both of us have been saying the same thing for going on 3 years...i have had problems with Carr's fundamentals since Day One.

it took someone outside 'the loop' to finally call a spade a spade. remember casserley allaying all our fears on his horrible release point. they were going to change it then there was the whole dad at practice drama and all that junk.

thank god we arent in Romper Room anymore...Schaub delivers the ball overhead and actually reminds me of Peyton as far as releases go.
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I've stated for a while that Carr has a funky hitch and doesn't have a good intermediate or long ball...but the forum called me crazy and a hater. I guess I'm not so bonkers now.


....well, maybe I am and this has nothing to do with it.
See, still hating like crazy. Be quiet you crazy hater.



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I remember the side-arm delivery being discussed when they drafted Carr.

Remember the ladders? Remember how they just disappeared the next year in training camp like everything was fixed and working fine? I always thought that was weird. Chris Palmer (who also had something of a reputation of being a QB guru before his stint as our offensive coordinator) went through all the trouble of these photo-op practices and talked about correcting his mechanics. Then the very next year none of that was happening and David was back to throwing like he'd always thrown.

Did Palmer just give up on trying to fix that through coaching? In retrospect was that an early sign that we had a QB who either wasn't going to or wasn't able to change what he was doing wrong?
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Default Re: Vikings disinterest in Carr

I think they eventually decided to just let Carr do what worked for him, mechanics be damned. It works for VY.

(P.S. I know it never worked very well for David, which makes me think he didn't adapt to the new throwing mechanics very well.)
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I'll dissent from Brad Childress.

I've seen this argument too many times and too many times proven to be false. Unorthadox throwing motions don't equate into inability to make a wide range of throws. From Stabler to Kosar to currently Rivers and Young, there have been guys making passes work where dozens of traditional arms have failed.

Besides that... his offense was terrible. The worst one fielded in Minnesota in over 20 years ( since 1984 and that's with Birk, Hutchinson, McKinnie ).
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