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Old 03-11-2007   #1
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Default See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

From the Chronicle:


For the second consecutive week, there has been a report that the Texans might be trying to move up in the draft to select quarterback Brady Quinn.

Neither report is true.

As the Chronicle reported last week, the Texans are not expected to pass up Quinn if he is available with the eighth pick, but they haven't tried to move up.

The Texans have denied they are interested in moving up. Executives with five of the teams that draft in front of the Texans said last week they haven't been contacted by general manager Rick Smith or coach Gary Kubiak about the Texans trying to move up in the first round.

Publicly and privately, the Texans insist they are trying to add draft choices, not surrender them.

As the draft draws closer, there will be a lot of reports involving a lot of teams, including the Texans, about moving up or down in the draft. A few might even be true.

The Texans have the same quarterbacks David Carr, Sage Rosenfels and Bradlee Van Pelt as they had at the end of the season.

They made an effort to sign Jeff Garcia and Patrick Ramsey. Why? Garcia would have been the starter with Rosenfels as the backup and, more than likely, a rookie selected in the second or third round.

If they had signed Ramsey, he would have backed up Rosenfels. A rookie would have been the third quarterback.

They wouldn't have signed Garcia to compete with Carr for the starting job and have Rosenfels as the third quarterback. Kubiak kept only two veterans on the roster last season.

They wouldn't have signed Ramsey as the third quarterback behind Carr and Rosenfels.

Even though the Texans never will admit it, both of those scenarios would have played out without Carr.

If the Texans end up with Quinn in the first round or a quarterback in the second or third round, the rookie is going to be developed. A veteran, probably Rosenfels, would start this season.

Rosenfels also is the type of veteran who will work with a rookie and help develop him.

So where does that leave Carr? Still on the trading block, but it takes two to make a trade.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/4619278.html
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Old 03-11-2007   #2
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

thank god we arent moving up (allegedly)...that would just be stupid
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

i am in complete agreement against a trade up. in trying to do a mock draft for the Texans, i realized that i could have used at least one more pick, not less. let's stay where we are at, take the player we want, or entertain offers for a reasonable trade down scenario that get us at least one extra day one pick.
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

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i am in complete agreement against a trade up. in trying to do a mock draft for the Texans, i realized that i could have used at least one more pick, not less. let's stay where we are at, take the player we want, or entertain offers for a reasonable trade down scenario that get us at least one extra day one pick.
I agree. I would like to see Quinn in a Texans uniform though. Hopefully he's there at 8.
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

I had a crazy thought - would the Pats trade 2 late first round picks for our 8 and would we accept it?

Its that a crazy, stupid idea or not........
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I had a crazy thought - would the Pats trade 2 late first round picks for our 8 and would we accept it?

Its that a crazy, stupid idea or not........
I don't think they'd like that too much if we proposed a deal like that. I think they're salivating at the chance to draft Gonzales or Pozluszny at 24 and Willis or Hughes at 28.
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I had a crazy thought - would the Pats trade 2 late first round picks for our 8 and would we accept it?

Its that a crazy, stupid idea or not........
Maybe the Pats would trade if McNair also offered to pay some of Tom Brady's child support bill next year...
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Maybe the Pats would trade if McNair also offered to pay some of Tom Brady's child support bill next year...


rofl...anyways, i just read this article in the paper and then logged on here lol. i'm glad that we're not moving up for Quinn and even if he's available at 8 I REALLY HOPE we take Landry instead.
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The pats can take late 1st rounders and make them superheros. No way they move up in the draft
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

if this is true, it's music to my ears. If peterson, landry, and thomas are gone by #8, i'd love to trade down.
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March 9: "The Texans are trading up to 6."
OMG OMG OMG ..... Everybody, did you see this? Check this out ....OMG <insert visual of phone booth scene in the movie Airplane here - with the people running left to right>

March 11: "The Texans are not trading up to 6."
OMG OMG OMG ..... Everybody, did you see this? Check this out ....OMG <insert visual of phone booth scene in the movie Airplane here - with the people running right to left>

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rofl...anyways, i just read this article in the paper and then logged on here lol. i'm glad that we're not moving up for Quinn and even if he's available at 8 I REALLY HOPE we take Landry instead.
I second that. Landry at no. 8. Let us not forget, as bad as Carr played all year there were 3 games that our defensive blew in the final seconds, not car inablility to be P. Manning and win it for us. I know we all recall, 3rd and 20. Opponents have the ball, quarterback drops back, hits a pass over the middle for 25 yrds and an automatic first down........now how many times have we heard that last year.
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

Its the offseason, what else do you want us to do?

We've been stuck with mediocrity leading our team for 5 years, even the CHANCE that he's going away is the most exciting news I've heard in years
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There's a lot of optimism this off season. Maybe we will get back on track after all this time.
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

If the Texans are planning on taking anyone but Landry if its between Landry and Quinn then I hope with every fiber of my being that we're trading out of 8.
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

First off this article is written by John McClain. McClain likes to write in a way that sounds like he knows exactly what is going to happen. Remember last season it was first "The Texans are going to draft Vince Young," then it became "The Texans will draft Reggie Bush." Neither came true.

Do you think that the Texans would actually tell McClain if they want to trade up to get Quinn?
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First off this article is written by John McClain. McClain likes to write in a way that sounds like he knows exactly what is going to happen. Remember last season it was first "The Texans are going to draft Vince Young," then it became "The Texans will draft Reggie Bush." Neither came true.

Do you think that the Texans would actually tell McClain if they want to trade up to get Quinn?
I hope so, because if they take Quinn over Landry....
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i don't think the texans told mclain anything he's a good reporter but he doesn't always know everything. I'm not saying it's true but the guy from espn that has good sources is saying that we are gonna trade up but only if quinn is there at #6. So if we trade it only be on draft day.
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Default Re: See-Saw, See-Saw, now we won't move up to take Quinn

Quinn seems to be thought by most experts to be the best QB in the draft, so dropping to 8th would be unusual. But you never know. Remember how Aaron Rodgers was supposed to be picked in the top two? I'd be surprised if the Texans didn't take him at 8 though.
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IMHO...Sage,Quinn WILL NOT BE AN UPGRADE for the upcoming season. Carr isn't great but he would be better this season than Sage or Quinn. So why down grade? Why cant we wait till next year when Carr's contract is up and there are more options at QB? Oh! Texans fans want change NOW regardless of if it is good or bad for the team. Doesn't this sound a lot like the way Bud Adams ran his Oilers in the 70's. I am ready for a QB change too, but not at any cost. If the Texans only problem was QB my story may be diffrent, but there are so many needs with higher priority than QB, taking cap hits and trading away draft picks for lateral QB moves makes no sense!
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