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Old 03-10-2007   #1
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From what I have seen Jordan Black is a good offensive tackle (He plans on playing left tackle) with this in mind I don't feel the need for the Texans to draft Levi Brown or Joe Thomas. Since we have drafted four defensive players in the first round and two offensive, I would like the Texans to fill our WR2 hole by adding Dwayne Bowe (A Junior Andre Johnson who can block for us.) But, at #8 I belive thats to high for his stock so after many endless nights of researching I have made a conclusion, we need to either add a DT or CB. With this in mind, Leon hall or Alan Branch should be selected. Here's what NFL has to say about these two players (This is from NFL.com):




Leon Hall, CB

5'11 190-Lbs.



Pros:

Well defined athlete in both his upper and lower body Looks the part, physically Prepares off the field as well as he performs on it Knows his opponent and though he has played only cornerback, his coaches will tell you that he knows the other defensive backs' assignments as well as his own Looks born to play the position Good speed to run with receivers Very good short-area burst to close on the ball Very good use of his hands to jam the receiver at the line of scrimmage and battle throughout the route Quick hands and excellent hand-eye coordination help him consistently deflect passes Times his leaps well and competes for the ball Good hands for the interception and is a reliable runner with the ball in his hands Experience as a punt returner is a plus and shows in his ability to gain yardage after the interception Reacts quickly to the running game Reliable open-field tackler Mature, hard-working player who will maximize his ability.


Cons:

Not the classic burner at cornerback Estimated at a 4.50-second 40-yard dash by NFL scouts entering his senior season Has been surrounded by a great deal of talent throughout his career, not the least of which is a terrific pass rush.





Alan Branch, NT

6'6" 330-Lbs.


Pros:

Has a thick chest, big back, broad shoulders and very big arms and hands. He has a good bubble, wide hips, thick thighs and calves Tall, physical and powerful athlete with very good flexibility for a player of his size Has good change-of-direction agility and moves well in the open Can be explosive coming off the snap when he remains focused, and is a good pursuit player with nimble feet working down the line Has an instinctive feel for the ball, but needs to keep his head in the game in order to have success Can simply dominate the line of scrimmage and force teams to abandon their interior ground game because of his ability to occupy space and handle multiple blockers Shows very good determination working down the line and likes the physical aspect of playing in the trenches Can be sudden and create advantage that he will retain Shows good change of direction agility and recovers quickly coming off the ground Uses his hands well to get a good push off the defender and shocks blockers back with his strength and forceful hand jolt Can split double teams consistently with leverage. He is quick to recover and create a pile Is almost always double teamed, but once he sets his anchor, he is impossible to move out Knows his job is to occupy multiple blockers, yet with his defensive end experience he could be quite effective playing end in a 3-4 alignment, bringing to mind New England's Ty Warren Has the quick lateral initial step and strength to string plays wide and shows good body control when changing direction Plays with good leverage and flexibility, knowing how to use his size and long arms to engulf the ball carrier Will collide and wrap with good force and can be a decent striker in tight quarters if he chooses to use his hands more often The team held opponents to 43.38 yards per game rushing in 2006, thanks largely to Branch's ability to not only tie up multiple blockers, but to also engulf the ball carrier Plays with very good leverage and when he keeps his pad level down, Branch can hold the point Gets such a strong push off the snap, offensive linemen are quickly neutralized and the inside rush lanes get clogged Has a good concept for taking angles and gets a good push when he sees the lane Seemed more acceptable to sitting back in run containment in 2006, but this player can really get to a quarterback when he cuts it loose Has a good feel for the offensive scheme and can react and get back in the play if he over-pursues Shows good vision to locate the ball moving laterally,


Cons:

Would be even quicker if he dropped some bulk, but he uses his frame well to get leverage and defeat blocks Learns plays with minimal reps, but is more comfortable with practice reps rather than learning plays in the classroom (better when plays are explained rather than when having to digest the playbook) When he gets lazy or runs out of gas, he will push and lean and is prone to disappearing from the action for long stretches When he gets too high in his stance, he might have a strong hand punch, but fails to use them effectively to defeat the low blocks and will then get taken off his feet Has those naturally strong hands that simply obliterate his opponent, but he needs to shoot them more often and be quicker to reset vs. counter moves and also must use them more to protect his legs from cut blocks Might get a little out of control at times, but has a quick burst to recover and level the passer Will lose sight of the ball at times when he has to handle double teams (sometimes gets too caught up in destroying the blockers and forgets about the ball).




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why choose hall when he's not the best DB available? even with hall, the CB's are still going to get beat if there isnt a safety covering their mistakes behind them. take the elite safety in landry who can blitz and help against the run and the pass. dont take hall just because he's the best CB available (there is debate as to who the best CB is, but ill give him this one). take the best DB overall, who is landry, and you can take a small school CB later in the 5th or so like corey graham or bain.
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one thing that hall did to help him out was run that 4.39 40yard dash at the combine. If I were take any corner in the draft it'd be him.

branch is a mammoth beast...i think of charles spencer at DT. there is a debate whether we would/should take amobi okoye who is lighter and quicker..to rush up the middle or alan branch who would be very good a stopping the run up the middle and taking on 2 guys as well. i don't know which way our texans would go.

after thinking long and hard over the past few months..i would rather us take landry in the 1st than a cb...faggins is pretty good for about 10 yards or so. but he doesn't have the speed. cc brown we've seen all year cannot cover a lick as far as pass coverage so iw would much rather landry who could help out faggins, run support, lay the big hit on the TE over the middle, or blitz.

as for DT...I really hope we get one in FA so we wouldn't need to address it in the draft. i'm torn between okoye and branch, and quite frankly i'd be happy with either...just make the decision for me!
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id rather have okoye. he's a much better pass rusher than branch is. if we take okoye, maybe we dont need a DE so early to add to the pass rush. my dream draft would be:

1-okoye dt
2-meriweather/griffin fs
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4-mike walker wr
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take landry in the first and bannister in the 5th
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why bannister when you can take bain or graham...or irons or wilson in the 3rd
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DRAFT CJ OR Joe THOMAS!!!!
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From what I have seen Jordan Black is a good offensive tackle (He plans on playing left tackle) with this in mind I don't feel the need for the Texans to draft Levi Brown or Joe Thomas. Since we have drafted four defensive players in the first round and two offensive, I would like the Texans to fill our WR2 hole by adding Dwayne Bowe (A Junior Andre Johnson who can block for us.) But, at #8 I belive thats to high for his stock so after many endless nights of researching I have made a conclusion, we need to either add a DT or CB. With this in mind, Leon hall or Alan Branch should be selected. Here's what NFL has to say about these two players (This is from NFL.com):




Leon Hall, CB

5'11 190-Lbs.



Pros:

Well defined athlete in both his upper and lower body Looks the part, physically Prepares off the field as well as he performs on it Knows his opponent and though he has played only cornerback, his coaches will tell you that he knows the other defensive backs' assignments as well as his own Looks born to play the position Good speed to run with receivers Very good short-area burst to close on the ball Very good use of his hands to jam the receiver at the line of scrimmage and battle throughout the route Quick hands and excellent hand-eye coordination help him consistently deflect passes Times his leaps well and competes for the ball Good hands for the interception and is a reliable runner with the ball in his hands Experience as a punt returner is a plus and shows in his ability to gain yardage after the interception Reacts quickly to the running game Reliable open-field tackler Mature, hard-working player who will maximize his ability.


Cons:

Not the classic burner at cornerback Estimated at a 4.50-second 40-yard dash by NFL scouts entering his senior season Has been surrounded by a great deal of talent throughout his career, not the least of which is a terrific pass rush.





Alan Branch, NT

6'6" 330-Lbs.


Pros:

Has a thick chest, big back, broad shoulders and very big arms and hands. He has a good bubble, wide hips, thick thighs and calves Tall, physical and powerful athlete with very good flexibility for a player of his size Has good change-of-direction agility and moves well in the open Can be explosive coming off the snap when he remains focused, and is a good pursuit player with nimble feet working down the line Has an instinctive feel for the ball, but needs to keep his head in the game in order to have success Can simply dominate the line of scrimmage and force teams to abandon their interior ground game because of his ability to occupy space and handle multiple blockers Shows very good determination working down the line and likes the physical aspect of playing in the trenches Can be sudden and create advantage that he will retain Shows good change of direction agility and recovers quickly coming off the ground Uses his hands well to get a good push off the defender and shocks blockers back with his strength and forceful hand jolt Can split double teams consistently with leverage. He is quick to recover and create a pile Is almost always double teamed, but once he sets his anchor, he is impossible to move out Knows his job is to occupy multiple blockers, yet with his defensive end experience he could be quite effective playing end in a 3-4 alignment, bringing to mind New England's Ty Warren Has the quick lateral initial step and strength to string plays wide and shows good body control when changing direction Plays with good leverage and flexibility, knowing how to use his size and long arms to engulf the ball carrier Will collide and wrap with good force and can be a decent striker in tight quarters if he chooses to use his hands more often The team held opponents to 43.38 yards per game rushing in 2006, thanks largely to Branch's ability to not only tie up multiple blockers, but to also engulf the ball carrier Plays with very good leverage and when he keeps his pad level down, Branch can hold the point Gets such a strong push off the snap, offensive linemen are quickly neutralized and the inside rush lanes get clogged Has a good concept for taking angles and gets a good push when he sees the lane Seemed more acceptable to sitting back in run containment in 2006, but this player can really get to a quarterback when he cuts it loose Has a good feel for the offensive scheme and can react and get back in the play if he over-pursues Shows good vision to locate the ball moving laterally,


Cons:

Would be even quicker if he dropped some bulk, but he uses his frame well to get leverage and defeat blocks Learns plays with minimal reps, but is more comfortable with practice reps rather than learning plays in the classroom (better when plays are explained rather than when having to digest the playbook) When he gets lazy or runs out of gas, he will push and lean and is prone to disappearing from the action for long stretches When he gets too high in his stance, he might have a strong hand punch, but fails to use them effectively to defeat the low blocks and will then get taken off his feet Has those naturally strong hands that simply obliterate his opponent, but he needs to shoot them more often and be quicker to reset vs. counter moves and also must use them more to protect his legs from cut blocks Might get a little out of control at times, but has a quick burst to recover and level the passer Will lose sight of the ball at times when he has to handle double teams (sometimes gets too caught up in destroying the blockers and forgets about the ball).




http://youtube.com/watch?v=GfFBKO0v2pc




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbcevKPe5hU





Draft Elmo from Seasemee Street University at #8!
In response to Leon Hall at #8, he's not even the best corner in the draft. Why take him? If anybody, I'd go with Chris Houston...but Houston isn't worth #8.

Landry and Okoye will be there at #8, but my gut is telling me to go with Brady Quinn. He has all the tools necessary to blossom into a star in this league. Sit him behind Sage and put a clipboard in his hands right next to Gary next season.

I was watching Extra Points earlier tonight and Ralph Cooper was saying to draft Quinn at #8 and Kolb in the 3rd round and let the two rookies battle it out for the starting spot. I don't think that's wise.

I wouldn't jump through any hoops to get Quinn, but if he's there at #8, take him. If he's already gone, take Okoye, then go with Justin Blalock in the 2nd.

We have the following players at DT:

Travis Johnson
Thomas Johnson
Lional Dalton
Cedric Killings
Anthony Maddox

That's hardly a formidable group of guys at DT. You need a star here, and Okoye is sure to be one at the DT position for years to come.
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