We are Loser #5 on ESPN - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**gtexan02** · 03-08-2007

According to ESPNs 5 winners and losers from Free Agency, we are the #5 biggest loser.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2789661

**infantrycak** · 03-08-2007

So much for another example of Clayton's intelligence. So the Texans with limited cap space are bigger losers than the Titans with huge cap space and so far their net is loss of their #1 receiver and #1 RB--gotcha John.

**Trap_Star** · 03-08-2007

Why isnt Tennessee #1? They have all that money and they have'nt done a thing....

thunderkyss · 03-08-2007

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

So much for another example of Clayton's intelligence. So the Texans with limited cap space are bigger losers than the Titans with huge cap space and so far their net is loss of their #1 receiver and #1 RB--gotcha John.

Didn't they also lose Bobby Wade?? & Chris Brown as well??

Dime · 03-08-2007

It is credible if you

1. Find anything that John Clayton says as important.

2. Care about espn analyists have to say.

3. and dont have a clue what the current FO is trying to do.

I am quite happy with the moves in FA and we are seeing some real progress done, without paying stupid prices for them.

**gtexan02** · 03-08-2007

The only thing I don't like is the Moulds release, but without being privy to his demands, who knows if it is on the FO or on the player

Spike · 03-08-2007

Until we turn things around, the national media is going to continue to pile on the Texans. We are damned if we do, damned if we don't.

Stros5Texans80 · 03-08-2007

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Originally Posted by Spike

Until we turn things around, the national media is going to continue to pile on the Texans. We are damned if we do, damned if we don't.

QFT Until we do something that grabs people's attention, I don't think we will ever stop hearing from them.

macaronitoni · 03-08-2007

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Originally Posted by Trap_Star

Why isnt Tennessee #1? They have all that money and they have'nt done a thing....

We Lost a legitimate number 2 wide receiver, have done nothing (before today, which even that is not nearly enough) to better our two worst areas, offensive line, and secondary which we lost a guy there as well. Oh and not to mention we still have Carr and nobody wants him. The only positive to this offseason thusfar is Green and he alone won't turn us around.

As far as the Titans are concerned, they haven't done anything stupid. Holding onto money isn't exactly a bad thing. Its only been a week.

**mexican_texan** · 03-08-2007

Sports Illustrated > ESPN
NFL Network > ESPN
That dog turd at the bus stop > ESPN

fdknuckles · 03-08-2007

ESPN KNOWS NOTHING!!!!

Those desk jokeys at ESPN just follow the $money$

The Texans are moving...more than others. We are moving up, little by little, our "no name" hombres are going to move up until Manning, Schein, and Kiper are licking their wounds in Nov.

GET SOME TEXANS!!!

fdknuckles · 03-08-2007

OOOPs...Jockeys

Reddevil63 · 03-08-2007

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Originally Posted by macaronitoni

As far as the Titans are concerned, they haven't done anything stupid. Holding onto money isn't exactly a bad thing. Its only been a week.

Your right, they haven't spent the money they had while losing their top 2 RB's and #1 WR

keyfro · 03-08-2007

you know this is why espn is espn and why the nfl network was created...it's a double-edge sword when you ask who the biggest winners of free agency are...to me it's not the teams it's the players...because we've seen it too many times that when a player gets paid then his production all of a sudden starts to fall...sometimes this is because the player only excelled on the team that they were originally on...and sometimes it's because since they got their big signing bonus they're simply not as hungry as they were before the big payday

that's why i'm glad we didn't go after the big name guys...that's why you see teams like new england constantly in the playoffs...because they don't overpay for guys...because they don't always go after the big time players unless they know they fit their system

we've seen first hand what happens when you go after names...*cough todd wade cough*...most of the time it just doesn't work

GTFan · 03-08-2007

So, we're a top 5 loser because we still have Carr on the roster? We're losers b/c we didn't trade for Plummer? We're losers b/c it's March and we're not entirely sure who our QB is going to be in Sept? Pretty harsh. I didn't expect us to be on this list.

Texans Horror · 03-08-2007

1 - SI also has questioned the Texans' offseason, particularly the Green signing. Though everyone agrees the Texans need a RB, Green's age (30) and his signing ($8 mil) are considered big negatives.

2 - I still think Moulds wanted out and that if the Texans hadn't let him go, they would be dealing with a Lance Briggs situation.

3 - Coming out of last year's offseason, the big winner was considered Cleveland, who hired a lot of guns and fixed their o-line woes with the Bentley signing. Surely, Cleveland would do well in 2006.

4 - One pattern I have noticed is that the Texans don't like getting "sandwiched" into a deal. They know it is easy to do to them this year, but have done everything possible to avoid it. Think not trading for Plummer and signing Green when it is starting to look like AP has a reasonable chance of falling to the Texans.

5 - I think the Green signing is awesome. Green will make holes (BYOBlocker) like Dayne did, only better. Batman is also a good running blocker, which the Texans have always lacked. He knows the system. For the situation the Texans are in, it is one of the best pick-ups they could have made, and I applaud it.

Carr Bombed · 03-08-2007

Hold on a sec, How the hell is Tamp Bay a "winner", they signed a old QB (I'm not sold on Garcia, too many bad Lions and Browns games), traded for one that won't even report, signed a Ancient DE, and signed a "okay" LT.

Texans Horror · 03-08-2007

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Originally Posted by Carr Bomb

Hold on a sec, How the hell is Tamp Bay a "winner", they signed a old QB (I'm not sold on Garcia, too many bad Lions and Browns games), traded for one that won't even report, signed a Ancient DE, and signed a "okay" LT.

Made headlines. JMO, but if they drafted Plummer to trade to the Texans, then they royally messed up.

run-david-run · 03-08-2007

We are a week into FA...

shakes head in disgust

Low Life · 03-09-2007

Yes. A week. I couldn't have expressed my emotions more elaborately on a valentine's day card to to my one true love.

03-08-2007	#2
infantrycak Lead Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 45 Posts: 37,398 Rep Power: 76017	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN So much for another example of Clayton's intelligence. So the Texans with limited cap space are bigger losers than the Titans with huge cap space and so far their net is loss of their #1 receiver and #1 RB--gotcha John. __________________ The Art of War

03-08-2007	#3
Trap_Star SiteContributor Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: xvideo Age: 27 Posts: 4,348 Rep Power: 9782	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN Why isnt Tennessee #1? They have all that money and they have'nt done a thing.... __________________ Sorry Brakos! I need to change my Sig for Texan_Bill's friend!! RIP Stephen "Bubba" Carranza!! You will always be loved!! RIP!!!

03-08-2007	#6
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN The only thing I don't like is the Moulds release, but without being privy to his demands, who knows if it is on the FO or on the player __________________ Adios until next season. See you then

03-08-2007	#7
Spike Veteran Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 493 Rep Power: 19	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN Until we turn things around, the national media is going to continue to pile on the Texans. We are damned if we do, damned if we don't.

03-08-2007	#11
fdknuckles Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN ESPN KNOWS NOTHING!!!! Those desk jokeys at ESPN just follow the $money$ The Texans are moving...more than others. We are moving up, little by little, our "no name" hombres are going to move up until Manning, Schein, and Kiper are licking their wounds in Nov. GET SOME TEXANS!!!

03-08-2007	#1
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	We are Loser #5 on ESPN According to ESPNs 5 winners and losers from Free Agency, we are the #5 biggest loser. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2789661 __________________ Adios until next season. See you then

03-08-2007	#5
Dime Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Age: 42 Posts: 1,377 Rep Power: 12	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN It is credible if you 1. Find anything that John Clayton says as important. 2. Care about espn analyists have to say. 3. and dont have a clue what the current FO is trying to do. I am quite happy with the moves in FA and we are seeing some real progress done, without paying stupid prices for them. __________________ You can get more with a 2 by 4 and a kind word then just with a kind word.

03-08-2007	#12
fdknuckles Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN OOOPs...Jockeys

03-08-2007	#14
keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN you know this is why espn is espn and why the nfl network was created...it's a double-edge sword when you ask who the biggest winners of free agency are...to me it's not the teams it's the players...because we've seen it too many times that when a player gets paid then his production all of a sudden starts to fall...sometimes this is because the player only excelled on the team that they were originally on...and sometimes it's because since they got their big signing bonus they're simply not as hungry as they were before the big payday that's why i'm glad we didn't go after the big name guys...that's why you see teams like new england constantly in the playoffs...because they don't overpay for guys...because they don't always go after the big time players unless they know they fit their system we've seen first hand what happens when you go after names...cough todd wade cough...most of the time it just doesn't work __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

03-08-2007	#15
GTFan Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 40 Posts: 50 Rep Power: 8	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN So, we're a top 5 loser because we still have Carr on the roster? We're losers b/c we didn't trade for Plummer? We're losers b/c it's March and we're not entirely sure who our QB is going to be in Sept? Pretty harsh. I didn't expect us to be on this list.

03-08-2007	#16
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN 1 - SI also has questioned the Texans' offseason, particularly the Green signing. Though everyone agrees the Texans need a RB, Green's age (30) and his signing ($8 mil) are considered big negatives. 2 - I still think Moulds wanted out and that if the Texans hadn't let him go, they would be dealing with a Lance Briggs situation. 3 - Coming out of last year's offseason, the big winner was considered Cleveland, who hired a lot of guns and fixed their o-line woes with the Bentley signing. Surely, Cleveland would do well in 2006. 4 - One pattern I have noticed is that the Texans don't like getting "sandwiched" into a deal. They know it is easy to do to them this year, but have done everything possible to avoid it. Think not trading for Plummer and signing Green when it is starting to look like AP has a reasonable chance of falling to the Texans. 5 - I think the Green signing is awesome. Green will make holes (BYOBlocker) like Dayne did, only better. Batman is also a good running blocker, which the Texans have always lacked. He knows the system. For the situation the Texans are in, it is one of the best pick-ups they could have made, and I applaud it. __________________ "It is what it is."

03-08-2007	#17
Carr Bombed Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wherever the US govt. sends me Posts: 12,615 Rep Power: 18373	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN Hold on a sec, How the hell is Tamp Bay a "winner", they signed a old QB (I'm not sold on Garcia, too many bad Lions and Browns games), traded for one that won't even report, signed a Ancient DE, and signed a "okay" LT.

03-08-2007	#19
run-david-run Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The University of Texas Age: 24 Posts: 3,370 Rep Power: 1329	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN We are a week into FA... shakes head in disgust __________________ Andre Johnson is The Answer

03-09-2007	#20
Low Life Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 36 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 9	Re: We are Loser #5 on ESPN Yes. A week. I couldn't have expressed my emotions more elaborately on a valentine's day card to to my one true love. __________________ www.lowerlifeform.com

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