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Old 03-06-2007   #1
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I just wanted to throw this out there but it seems to me that the Texan FO doesnt like University of Texas players. Sloan Thomas was cut, Derrick Johnson was passed over for....get this Travis Johnson, VY is in there too. What about Leonard Davis? He may have sucked but the Cowboys got him.
No Cedric Benson. No trades for Ricky Williams, or Roy Williams. I hate the FO for not giving me one player to get excited to watch, except Demeco maybe.

I think that the organization doesnt seem to respect that its fan base is primarily UT and ATM fans. (sorry everyone else) To think that Adrian Peterson would get drafted and not VY is insane, even though AP is good. We should be looking at Aaron Ross, Blaylock and Marcus Griffin in the draft. We should draft players that looked good against real teams from real conferences not players with planters faschitis or whatever from the ACC, or Tattoo Boy Babin. Why, because when you play teams like Duke, at football, your sack totals can get a tad bit inflated.

In short, I have to give a Dan Aykroyd "bah" to the FO. (See trading places as Aykroyd in the Santa suit, stuffs food down his shirt, and takes slugs of his pint of Whiskey; he tries to say Bah Humbug but it comes out as "BAHH!") Green is a good addition but prepare for another season where you cant find anyone to go to the game because the team is BORING to watch. PATRICK RAMSEY are you kidding me!!! Come on give me a QB that I might actually use in fantasy. (Carr was better from a fantasy perspective)

Oh and whoever spent all of the cap money needs to get their azz kicked. We have spent a ton of money on DLinemen and LB's only to find out every year that DL and LB are areas of need. Hey but the real joke is on us season ticket holders. Yeah!!!
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Yes, our FO goes out of our way to NOT sign players because of where they played college football.
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Yea, I'd rather our FO consider alma mater over talent evaluation as well. I mean, the burnt orange stamp is exponentially more important than what a player can do on the field.

Let's bring Sloan back in place of Andre because the majority of our fans are UT fans and not UM fans.
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uhh, sorry, this is real life. no professional team has "biases" against potential players because of the colleges they played for.
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The last GM did not care for UT players. I've posted this before. He didn't feel UT was honest in their reviews of their own players. He believed they overstated their abilities' knowledge and leadership. These are things he stated directly to me. That said Sloan Thomas is not an NFL caliber receiver. Leonard Davis is way overrated and was overpaid by the Cowboys. Ricky and Cedric aren't Bob McNair type of players... to many off the field issues. CC wasn't a Chris Simms fan. He felt that he was too much of a lightning rod for those who thought he could play and those who thought he couldn't. That other quarterback... he might actually turn into something and maybe should have been considered last year. Derrick Johnson can play, but so can Demeco Ryans. You can bad mouth Travis Johnson all you want, but... well actually you may be right. =)
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I know this may be news to you, but the vast majority of potential football fans DID NOT go to UT nor Texas. There is absolutely no reason the draft players to market (nice word) to that relatively small fan base.
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I just wanted to throw this out there but it seems to me that the Texan FO doesnt like University of Texas players. Sloan Thomas was cut, Derrick Johnson was passed over for....get this Travis Johnson, VY is in there too. What about Leonard Davis? He may have sucked but the Cowboys got him.
No Cedric Benson. No trades for Ricky Williams, or Roy Williams. I hate the FO for not giving me one player to get excited to watch, except Demeco maybe.

I think that the organization doesnt seem to respect that its fan base is primarily UT and ATM fans. (sorry everyone else) To think that Adrian Peterson would get drafted and not VY is insane, even though AP is good. We should be looking at Aaron Ross, Blaylock and Marcus Griffin in the draft. We should draft players that looked good against real teams from real conferences not players with planters faschitis or whatever from the ACC, or Tattoo Boy Babin. Why, because when you play teams like Duke, at football, your sack totals can get a tad bit inflated.

In short, I have to give a Dan Aykroyd "bah" to the FO. (See trading places as Aykroyd in the Santa suit, stuffs food down his shirt, and takes slugs of his pint of Whiskey; he tries to say Bah Himbug but it comes out as "BAHH!") Green is a good addition but prepare for another season where you cant find anyone to go to the game because the team is BORING to watch. PATRICK RAMSEY are you kidding me!!! Come on give me a QB that I might actually use in fantasy. (Carr was better from a fantasy perspective)

Oh and whoever spent all of the cap money needs to get their azz kicked. We have spent a ton of money on DLinemen and LB's only to find out every year that DL and LB are areas of need. Hey but the real joke is on us season ticket holders. Yeah!!!
Tell me what DJ has done in teh NFL...cause I can tell you it ain't that much.

Leonard Davis is one of the bigger OT busts in recent memory and just sign for some stupid money.

Ricky Williams is a pot head

Trading for Roy Williams isn't possible because there is no way in hell Det would give him up.

Sloan Thomas is no longer in teh nfl (I think).

Cedric Benson...See Roy Williams, espically after they traded away Jones.

As for this years class of longhorns in the draft:

Ross is a tad overrated and we'll be in position to draft a better CB

Griffin is more suited to playing SS in the NFL, and we already have several SS on the roster.

Blaylock may or may not be that suited to the ZB scheme we run.

AS for inflated sack totals yeah those ACC DE's suck I mean who the hell would want Julius Peppers on their team. I mean he didn't even play in the state of Texas for crying out loud.

There is no reason for the FO to draft palyers from the state of Texas just to appaise the fan base. It's stupid and will lead us to being a worse team then we already are.

I can't fight through the morinicy of your post anymore. Sorry.
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uhh, sorry, this is real life. no professional team has "biases" against potential players because of the colleges they played for.
Really? How do you explain all of the Denver and GB signing? It's not just a coincidence. Sloan Thomas was cut by Dom Capers, who had no real eye for talent, and when it did fall in his lap he didn't know what to do with it. Kubiak signed a guy named Derrick Johnson, just not the one we wanted to see here. haha.
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Really? How do you explain all of the Denver and GB signing? It's not just a coincidence. Sloan Thomas was cut by Dom Capers, who had no real eye for talent, and when it did fall in his lap he didn't know what to do with it. Kubiak signed a guy named Derrick Johnson, just not the one we wanted to see here. haha.
Uhmmm, last time I checked Denver and GB are not college teams.
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^^^Someone missed a joke....
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Uhmmm, last time I checked Denver and GB are not college teams.
omg, just making the argument.
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This is a buisness like any other, and any chance to pick up a top notch player with solid character would never be passed up in regards to regional or collegiate bias. However, alot of Texas talent does get "stolen" from here by great Universities like USC, Michigan, Florida and Oklahoma. I play varsity ball right now, and Nebraska recruits the heck out of our district and I've had the chance to personally talk to one of their recruiters. I've seen Colorado, Arkansas, and LSU in my district quite a bit. There's no bias, the talent is just really spread out.
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Could be...this whole imagined anti-UT bias is a sore spot with me.
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I just wanted to throw this out there but it seems to me that the Texan FO doesnt like University of Texas players. Sloan Thomas was cut, Derrick Johnson was passed over for....get this Travis Johnson, VY is in there too. What about Leonard Davis? He may have sucked but the Cowboys got him.
No Cedric Benson. No trades for Ricky Williams, or Roy Williams. I hate the FO for not giving me one player to get excited to watch, except Demeco maybe.

I think that the organization doesnt seem to respect that its fan base is primarily UT and ATM fans. (sorry everyone else) To think that Adrian Peterson would get drafted and not VY is insane, even though AP is good. We should be looking at Aaron Ross, Blaylock and Marcus Griffin in the draft. We should draft players that looked good against real teams from real conferences not players with planters faschitis or whatever from the ACC, or Tattoo Boy Babin. Why, because when you play teams like Duke, at football, your sack totals can get a tad bit inflated.

In short, I have to give a Dan Aykroyd "bah" to the FO. (See trading places as Aykroyd in the Santa suit, stuffs food down his shirt, and takes slugs of his pint of Whiskey; he tries to say Bah Humbug but it comes out as "BAHH!") Green is a good addition but prepare for another season where you cant find anyone to go to the game because the team is BORING to watch. PATRICK RAMSEY are you kidding me!!! Come on give me a QB that I might actually use in fantasy. (Carr was better from a fantasy perspective)

Oh and whoever spent all of the cap money needs to get their azz kicked. We have spent a ton of money on DLinemen and LB's only to find out every year that DL and LB are areas of need. Hey but the real joke is on us season ticket holders. Yeah!!!
this from a cherry poster? nahhhhh...take your played out argument somewhere.
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Really? How do you explain all of the Denver and GB signing? It's not just a coincidence. Sloan Thomas was cut by Dom Capers, who had no real eye for talent, and when it did fall in his lap he didn't know what to do with it. Kubiak signed a guy named Derrick Johnson, just not the one we wanted to see here. haha.
We go after Denver and Green Bay players because our head coach spent most of his career in Denver and our offensive coordinator/assistant head coach spent most of his career in Green Bay. Green Bay and Denver players fit the system that we run and Our coaches have experience with those players in their system.
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We go after Denver and Green Bay players because our head coach spent most of his career in Denver and our offensive coordinator/assistant head coach spent most of his career in Green Bay. Green Bay and Denver players fit the system that we run and Our coaches have experience with those players in their system.
that's obvious. but, let's give players from some of the other 29 teams a shot is all i'm saying.
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that's obvious. but, let's give players from some of the other 29 teams a shot is all i'm saying.
I think we will once we have a foundation of a team to run the system.
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You mean this isn't our beloved Houston Louagars (pronouced loogie-ers)! (Longhorn/Aggies/Cougars/Bears)
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The last GM did not care for UT players. I've posted this before. He didn't feel UT was honest in their reviews of their own players. He believed they overstated their abilities' knowledge and leadership. These are things he stated directly to me. That said Sloan Thomas is not an NFL caliber receiver. Leonard Davis is way overrated and was overpaid by the Cowboys. Ricky and Cedric aren't Bob McNair type of players... to many off the field issues. CC wasn't a Chris Simms fan. He felt that he was too much of a lightning rod for those who thought he could play and those who thought he couldn't. That other quarterback... he might actually turn into something and maybe should have been considered last year. Derrick Johnson can play, but so can Demeco Ryans. You can bad mouth Travis Johnson all you want, but... well actually you may be right. =)
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Yes, our FO goes out of our way to NOT sign players because of where they played college football.
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