Texan's Defense so close...

[CarolinaTexan]

Long time reader of the MB's here, just now making my first post.
This offseason has huge potential for the Texans, and i like the Green signing a lot. I think with the pick up of a proven (and i think very good) RB that we can focus on defense in this draft. The texan's defense really came alive this past year after a rocky start, and i saw glimpses of a great defense. With a few holes filled i think they could be dominate!! I am praying we draft Laron Landry, he could become a huge addition to our defense, and would help make one awesome (and young...) defensive core. (mario, meco, dunta..and landry). He is a huge ball hawk and fly's around the field, can make the big hit, and can *gasp* create turnovers. He has good vision and and with 4.48 speed can help stop big plays that usually crush us. I just see him as a perfect fit and as a player than boost this defense and become a star. The point of this post is to try and say that our defense is almost there, and id rather have a dominate defense and pretty stale offense, than a so-so defence and a so-so offense. I love AP, and calvin johnson is nasty, but landry has a superb answer to our gaping safety problem. What do yall think?

[Ole Miss Texan]

hmm i don't know where to start. I guess I'll start by saying that i agree with 99% of your post. I have your thinking EXACTLY

one correction. Landry doesn't have 4.48 speed. That's what I though for a while and thought he may be a reach at 8. But at the combine he ran a 4.35. That completely blew me away. He needs to be our pick...hands down..i just hope he is still there for us.

Great first post.

[Ole Miss Texan]

I think we just need a DT, LB, and #2 CB. ..if we draft Landry.

I think we can get one of those in the draft too, and hopefully one in FA.

Our Defense is going to be KILLER.

[autch14]

i think that we either take landry or quinn, both could be there at #8 kubiak was very impressed with him on sunday. Landry would be a great defensive playmaker so i'd be ok with either pick.

[mexican_texan]

Our defense would play great and then Petey or one of our scrub corners got beat.

[CarolinaTexan]

Wow...thanks for the update, 4.35 time is sick, i had not seen that yet! I agree with you, landry would just be a big piece to our defensive puzzle..but a DT, LB would be needed no doubt, and #2 cb i think would be our last priority. Can't wait to see things unfold up to and on draft day

[Insideop]

Welcome to the board CarolinaTexan!

I too would be happy with Landry at #8, although my 1st choice is Okoye. But, I definately agree with you about being close on Defense, and I think Landry would be great if we don't pick a Safety in FA, which is what I was hoping they would do.

Anyway, welcome aboard!

[HuttoKarl]

Landry at 8 and Aaron Ross in the second round would make for an dramatically improved defense by mid-season. O-line help from there on out, minus one pick for a QB (edwards from Stanford, Beck from BYU???).

[TheCD]

I would LOVE for us to take Landry. One think I covet in a defense is an intelligent, quick, hard-hitting safety, and I think he fits the bill.


That being said however, I'm starting to get the feeling Kubiak might go offensively this draft. Last year was for defensive, this year I think Kubiak wants his turn.

[keyfro]

you know i honestly think they'll trade down a few if they can...they won't trade down for nothing or for future picks like casserly always did but i think rick smith and kubiak are really looking for a team to give them atleast one 1st day pick this year...if they get that i think they'll trade down...if not i'm right with most of ya'll i want laron landry

[Ole Miss Texan]

Originally Posted by TheCD

I would LOVE for us to take Landry. One think I covet in a defense is an intelligent, quick, hard-hitting safety, and I think he fits the bill.


That being said however, I'm starting to get the feeling Kubiak might go offensively this draft. Last year was for defensive, this year I think Kubiak wants his turn.

I really hope they just take what the draft gives them. This draft is a lot better with defensive talent in day one than offense imo.

2008 draft may be different....08 will be stacked with offensive talent all through the first and probably the 2nd..

thats why i hope we continue defense this draft and take offense next draft when our o-line is improved.

[hot pickle]

i like landry and hughes in the 3rd
OL in the 2nd

[DocBar]

This should be a very good draft for us, however it goes. It's very deep at some of our most needed positions(yes, I typed that with a straight face). About the only position I'm dead set against on the 1st day is QB(maybe 3rd rnd.). Rick Smith seems to be a very shrewd judge of talent(despite all the BS threads wondering what the FO is doing) and has impressed me so far by not trying to sign a big name to a bigger contract for the sake of just doing something. My jury is still out on Kubes. He's made some very questionable in-game decisions that concern me. I tend to think that they are based on observations made during practices and his overall feel for what we're capable of as team, so I give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I would be MUCH happier if we had a Mike Sherman type guy as AHC/ D-line/D coordinator instead of Sherman, but that's just opinion. I wouold also like to see us get a different secondary coach. Hoke's been a joke since he's been here. Our players just don't seem to be utilized to maximize their strengths. Same old same old there-trying to put square players into round schemes. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth.

[Clash_Fan3605]

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

I think we just need a DT, LB, and #2 CB. ..if we draft Landry.

I think we can get one of those in the draft too, and hopefully one in FA.

Our Defense is going to be KILLER.

Ole Miss Texan, how about this in our draft: LaRon Landry, DeMarcus Tyler, & Daymeion Hughes, Aaron Ross, or Marcus McCauley in rounds 1-3. I'm loving that draft. Defense could be something special. Only thing is we still would need 1 or 2 pieces for the O-Line.

[Ole Miss Texan]

Originally Posted by Clash_Fan3605

Ole Miss Texan, how about this in our draft: LaRon Landry, DeMarcus Tyler, & Daymeion Hughes, Aaron Ross, or Marcus McCauley in rounds 1-3. I'm loving that draft. Defense could be something special. Only thing is we still would need 1 or 2 pieces for the O-Line.

Clash, you and I are thinking similar to this years draft.

Landry is just a no brainer.
There are some really good DT,DE, and CB prospect that should be at our pick in the 2nd round. That may be the way to go...but I am REALLY sold on kalil for C. I just don't know if we're going to do enough to get him.

Marcus McCauley intrigues me. He is 6'1...205 lbs and ran a 4.39 at the combine. His stock was severly hit after this past season in which he really underperformed and got beat a lot. I think he may go late 1st ..but probably sometime in the 2nd round because of his size, speed, and athletic ability in general....he may be a prospect but there isn't confusing he looks good.

I think the whole Fresno St. team did bad last season...Paul Williams..WR..didn't really do all that good either..i think he could be good too. I guess my point it...I wouldn't mind seeing him in the 3rd round if he's there. After all..Dunta Robinson really hasn't looked all that good lately beacuse the rest of our secondary sucked. If we add landry in the 1st...I think McCauley could start for us by the end of the season...he just needs a lilttle coaching..he's got the size and speed...landry will really help him and dunta can be free.

IMO that solves our secondary problem. We could easily go rounds 1-3 this draft and our Defense would just about be complete....and they could do it with those Defensive players actually being BPA too.

If we can't go Kalil in 2nd or Kolb in 3rd ..I'd be happy with this....
1. Landry...duh
2. BPA...LB, DT, DE-DeMarcus Tyler would be great...
3. Marcus McCauley

I think aaron ross may go 1st or 2nd round. daymeion hughes i've seen him all over the place. I would take a gamble on McCauley just because the rest of our defense would be set.

we could then go bpa...rest of the way Desmond Bishop LB CAl in 4th?? then OL,WR, in rounds 5,6,7?

our defense would be virtually complete.

[kcwilson]

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

Clash, you and I are thinking similar to this years draft.

Landry is just a no brainer.
There are some really good DT,DE, and CB prospect that should be at our pick in the 2nd round. That may be the way to go...but I am REALLY sold on kalil for C. I just don't know if we're going to do enough to get him.

Marcus McCauley intrigues me. He is 6'1...205 lbs and ran a 4.39 at the combine. His stock was severly hit after this past season in which he really underperformed and got beat a lot. I think he may go late 1st ..but probably sometime in the 2nd round because of his size, speed, and athletic ability in general....he may be a prospect but there isn't confusing he looks good.

I think the whole Fresno St. team did bad last season...Paul Williams..WR..didn't really do all that good either..i think he could be good too. I guess my point it...I wouldn't mind seeing him in the 3rd round if he's there. After all..Dunta Robinson really hasn't looked all that good lately beacuse the rest of our secondary sucked. If we add landry in the 1st...I think McCauley could start for us by the end of the season...he just needs a lilttle coaching..he's got the size and speed...landry will really help him and dunta can be free.

IMO that solves our secondary problem. We could easily go rounds 1-3 this draft and our Defense would just about be complete....and they could do it with those Defensive players actually being BPA too.

If we can't go Kalil in 2nd or Kolb in 3rd ..I'd be happy with this....
1. Landry...duh
2. BPA...LB, DT, DE-DeMarcus Tyler would be great...
3. Marcus McCauley

I think aaron ross may go 1st or 2nd round. daymeion hughes i've seen him all over the place. I would take a gamble on McCauley just because the rest of our defense would be set.

we could then go bpa...rest of the way Desmond Bishop LB CAl in 4th?? then OL,WR, in rounds 5,6,7?

our defense would be virtually complete.

I totally agree with you about Landry first, Kalil 2nd, but I am not a fan of Kolb... system QB, Klingler all over again, would rather focus on getting Edwards from Stanford in teh third hopefully.

And then I think we are deep enough in talent on Defense that we can pick up a LB or CBin the 4th that has a decent chance of being an impact player this year.

I want receivers fearing running down the field on us.

[Ole Miss Texan]

Finish off our Defense this year...

1-Laron Landry FS LSU
2-DeMarcus Tyler DT NC St.
3-Marcus McCauley CB Fresno St.
4-Desmond Bishop LB Cal

5-Jacoby Jones WR Lane
6-Mario Henderson OL FSU
7-Daniel Sepulveda P Baylor

Dunta---Landry---Earl---McCauley
Greenwood-Demeco-Bishop
Mario--Maddox-Tyler-Weaver

[Ole Miss Texan]

then the 2008 draft we can focus on the offense

Brohm, Henne, Brennan, Booty = QB's
McFadden, Rice, Slaton = RB's
Baker, Long, Gaither = OT's
Manningham, Sweed..=WR's

Depending on where we're picking...let's just say about the middle..16th. we should have a highly rated OL, WR, RB, or QB fall to us..depending on what our team looks like take BPA there

no idea what the rest of the draft looks like. If our running game isn't looking good we could go with Rb if we think that's the problem..w/ rice or slaton..mcfadden would be gone #1. or if we think its the oline we could select OL finally in the first (and then trade for kalil whos was selected '07..lol jk)

next year should be offense..

i'm so excited how these two drafts can turn out. '07 and '08...'06 was already a winner.

[Clash_Fan3605]

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

Clash, you and I are thinking similar to this years draft.

Landry is just a no brainer.
There are some really good DT,DE, and CB prospect that should be at our pick in the 2nd round. That may be the way to go...but I am REALLY sold on kalil for C. I just don't know if we're going to do enough to get him.

Marcus McCauley intrigues me. He is 6'1...205 lbs and ran a 4.39 at the combine. His stock was severly hit after this past season in which he really underperformed and got beat a lot. I think he may go late 1st ..but probably sometime in the 2nd round because of his size, speed, and athletic ability in general....he may be a prospect but there isn't confusing he looks good.

I think the whole Fresno St. team did bad last season...Paul Williams..WR..didn't really do all that good either..i think he could be good too. I guess my point it...I wouldn't mind seeing him in the 3rd round if he's there. After all..Dunta Robinson really hasn't looked all that good lately beacuse the rest of our secondary sucked. If we add landry in the 1st...I think McCauley could start for us by the end of the season...he just needs a lilttle coaching..he's got the size and speed...landry will really help him and dunta can be free.

IMO that solves our secondary problem. We could easily go rounds 1-3 this draft and our Defense would just about be complete....and they could do it with those Defensive players actually being BPA too.

If we can't go Kalil in 2nd or Kolb in 3rd ..I'd be happy with this....
1. Landry...duh
2. BPA...LB, DT, DE-DeMarcus Tyler would be great...
3. Marcus McCauley

I think aaron ross may go 1st or 2nd round. daymeion hughes i've seen him all over the place. I would take a gamble on McCauley just because the rest of our defense would be set.

we could then go bpa...rest of the way Desmond Bishop LB CAl in 4th?? then OL,WR, in rounds 5,6,7?

our defense would be virtually complete.

I seem to think that 3 CBs will be drafted in the 1st round. Those CBs will be (in this order): Darrelle Revis, Leon Hall, and Chris Houston. But you do have a point in McCauley, he could very well sneak into the 1st. If thats the case we should go with Hughes. I definitely agree with you on McCauley, if he's coached well, he'll be a heck of a player. IMO, if he was drafted by the Texans, I think he could start by Week 3. He should be the 1st CB to look at in Round 2. (If not picked yet, of course)

[Clash_Fan3605]

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

then the 2008 draft we can focus on the offense

Brohm, Henne, Brennan, Booty = QB's
McFadden, Rice, Slaton = RB's
Baker, Long, Gaither = OT's
Manningham, Sweed..=WR's

Depending on where we're picking...let's just say about the middle..16th. we should have a highly rated OL, WR, RB, or QB fall to us..depending on what our team looks like take BPA there

no idea what the rest of the draft looks like. If our running game isn't looking good we could go with Rb if we think that's the problem..w/ rice or slaton..mcfadden would be gone #1. or if we think its the oline we could select OL finally in the first (and then trade for kalil whos was selected '07..lol jk)

next year should be offense..

i'm so excited how these two drafts can turn out. '07 and '08...'06 was already a winner.

I like this idea as well. Draft defensively in '07, and draft BPA offensively in '08. Surely at least 3 players from your list will drop to us. I'm pretty sure the 1st 15 picks won't be all offense. These 3 drafts could be straight up amazing.