O-Line OR D-Line? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**beerlover** · 03-01-2007

which line is the least of your worrys the offensive or defensive line?

OL-

LT Ephraim Salaam (FA)
LG Chester Pitts
C Steve McKinney
RG Fred Weary
RT Eric Winston

DL-

LE N.D. Kalu
DT Thomas Johnson
DT Anthony Maddox (FA)
RE Mario Williams

if your wondering about Spencer, Johnson & Weaver they are in rehab/recovering from surgery. going into year 6 it kinda makes you wonder just what happend.....

p.s. but it does make me feel a little better about the Mario Williams pick

bATXle red · 03-01-2007

yikes... both line-ups scare me. alot. I'm going to pretend the Texans do really well in the draft and hope that scenario doesn't ever happen....
unless thats the best we can do during a horrible injury plagued season... which sounds too familiar.

dbspi · 03-01-2007

Both line stinks and needs complete over haul but DL is more in bad shape then OL depending on health of Spencer. We didn't have a single guy last year on DL who could collapse the middle. Kubiak had mentioned this last year in the training camp and letter in the season. Out side of Mario we really don't have any one who is capable of putting pressure on the QB or help collapse the middle.

brewhaus · 03-01-2007

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Originally Posted by dbspi

We didn't have a single guy last year on DL who could collapse the middle. Kubiak had mentioned this last year in the training camp and letter in the season.

Exactly. Which kind of baffled me when the Texans wouldn't pay Robaire Smith 2 seasons ago. I thought he was solid in the middle and I believe it was a mistake to let him go, and as we all saw he ended up in East Austin.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 03-01-2007

Robaire was just another overpaid player on the Texans. We got a much better bargain with Anthony Maddux who played just as well as Robaire did during his stint here.

brewhaus · 03-01-2007

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Originally Posted by STEEL BLUE TEXANS

Robaire was just another overpaid player on the Texans. We got a much better bargain with Anthony Maddux who played just as well as Robaire did during his stint here.

Gotta' love those bargins. As a matter of fact, we kind of played like a bargin team last year, didn't we?

texans83 · 03-01-2007

im scared!!!!

**beerlover** · 03-01-2007

been searching for line help via FA & cannot find any affordable viable options.

A. will the Texans resign their current lineman who are free agents, Ephraim Salaam/Anthony Maddox?

B. what 2nd tier players could be signed via free agency?

C. possible trades? (wonder why the Texans release players instead of using them at least as trade fodder)

D. all lineman draft 1st day picks?

E. other ideas, both lines really need addressed.

TexanAddict · 03-01-2007

Our O Line is the weaker of the two

**edo783** · 03-01-2007

Almost a coin toss IMO, but the O-line gets the nod as the worst of that pathetic group.

TEXANRED · 03-01-2007

First you would have to ask yourself what are you trying to accomplish this year.

For me, its keeping VY from coming into Reliant and claiming it as his own, or Peyton putting up a forty spot, or Jones-Drew/Taylor getting a free pass to go.

I would draft Okaye with the 8 pick and from what I have been told by the "Experts" is that this is a deep draft for DE's so I would then pick the best DE available (Unless of course there was a run on DE's in the first).

Insideop · 03-01-2007

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Originally Posted by TEXANRED

First you would have to ask yourself what are you trying to accomplish this year.

For me, its keeping VY from coming into Reliant and claiming it as his own, or Peyton putting up a forty spot, or Jones-Drew/Taylor getting a free pass to go.

I would draft Okaye with the 8 pick and from what I have been told by the "Experts" is that this is a deep draft for DE's so I would then pick the best DE available (Unless of course there was a run on DE's in the first).

That's my choice too, but I'm not sure if that's the route the Texans will go. They may try to trade down and get Brown and get an extra draft pick. Still too early to tell. We'll have to wait to see who they go after in FA. JMHO!

Navy_Chris · 03-01-2007

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Originally Posted by beerlover

which line is the least of your worrys the offensive or defensive line?

OL-

LT Ephraim Salaam (FA)
LG Chester Pitts
C Steve McKinney
RG Fred Weary
RT Eric Winston

DL-

LE N.D. Kalu
DT Thomas Johnson
DT Anthony Maddox (FA)
RE Mario Williams

if your wondering about Spencer, Johnson & Weaver they are in rehab/recovering from surgery. going into year 6 it kinda makes you wonder just what happend.....

p.s. but it does make me feel a little better about the Mario Williams pick

Least of my worries is the O-Line. Those 2 DT's SUCK. Thomas Johnson is nothing but a thug playing in the NFL. Shantee Orr would've had a TD if it wasn't for him. AHHHHHH!!!! No real ability or discernable talent.

03-01-2007

The O-line will be fine...

The D-line will be fine if we can find one starter who can get consistent pressure on the QB...

I'm not overly worried about either....

TEXANRED · 03-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Navy_Chris

Least of my worries is the O-Line. Those 2 DT's SUCK. Thomas Johnson is nothing but a thug playing in the NFL. Shantee Orr would've had a TD if it wasn't for him. AHHHHHH!!!! No real ability or discernable talent.

Oh yea I forgott about that.

So one win taken away by Thomas Johnson and two taken away by Cook.

Wow, we could have been 9-7.

03-01-2007

We could have been 16-0 too.

Navy_Chris · 03-01-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEXANRED

Oh yea I forgott about that.

So one win taken away by Thomas Johnson and two taken away by Cook.

Wow, we could have been 9-7.

10-6 if you count the OT blunder to the Vince Young Titans!

Texans Horror · 03-01-2007

O-line needs more work with a left/right tackle and a center needed, both in a bad way. To me, the d-line only needs a defensive tackle.

texans83 · 03-01-2007

coulda woulda didnt happen, the Dline scares me. Why dont they ty to trade TJ? I mean I know it would be a huge cap hit if we cut him but letts face it, all he is doing is taking up space.

Navy_Chris · 03-01-2007

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Originally Posted by texans83

coulda wolda didnt happen, the Dline scares me. Why dont they ty to trade TJ? I mean I know it would be a huge cap hit if we cut him but letts face it, all he is doing is taking up space.

Because every other team in the NFL knows that Travis Johnson is lazy, just like we do. I'm sure you could talk Rod Graves of Arizona into anything, though.

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beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,358 Rep Power: 15075	O-Line OR D-Line? which line is the least of your worrys the offensive or defensive line? OL- LT Ephraim Salaam (FA) LG Chester Pitts C Steve McKinney RG Fred Weary RT Eric Winston DL- LE N.D. Kalu DT Thomas Johnson DT Anthony Maddox (FA) RE Mario Williams if your wondering about Spencer, Johnson & Weaver they are in rehab/recovering from surgery. going into year 6 it kinda makes you wonder just what happend..... p.s. but it does make me feel a little better about the Mario Williams pick __________________ 2012 Draft was Mercilus

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bATXle red Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: austin Age: 30 Posts: 76 Rep Power: 8	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? yikes... both line-ups scare me. alot. I'm going to pretend the Texans do really well in the draft and hope that scenario doesn't ever happen.... unless thats the best we can do during a horrible injury plagued season... which sounds too familiar. __________________ live every week like it's shark week

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dbspi Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 360 Rep Power: 10	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? Both line stinks and needs complete over haul but DL is more in bad shape then OL depending on health of Spencer. We didn't have a single guy last year on DL who could collapse the middle. Kubiak had mentioned this last year in the training camp and letter in the season. Out side of Mario we really don't have any one who is capable of putting pressure on the QB or help collapse the middle.

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STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? Robaire was just another overpaid player on the Texans. We got a much better bargain with Anthony Maddux who played just as well as Robaire did during his stint here.

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texans83 All Pro Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Friendswood Age: 30 Posts: 735 Rep Power: 8	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? im scared!!!!

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beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,358 Rep Power: 15075	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? been searching for line help via FA & cannot find any affordable viable options. A. will the Texans resign their current lineman who are free agents, Ephraim Salaam/Anthony Maddox? B. what 2nd tier players could be signed via free agency? C. possible trades? (wonder why the Texans release players instead of using them at least as trade fodder) D. all lineman draft 1st day picks? E. other ideas, both lines really need addressed. __________________ 2012 Draft was Mercilus

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TexanAddict Texan 'til I Die Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Age: 32 Posts: 888 Rep Power: 76	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? Our O Line is the weaker of the two

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TEXANRED Texan-American Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 37 Posts: 5,965 Rep Power: 12236	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? First you would have to ask yourself what are you trying to accomplish this year. For me, its keeping VY from coming into Reliant and claiming it as his own, or Peyton putting up a forty spot, or Jones-Drew/Taylor getting a free pass to go. I would draft Okaye with the 8 pick and from what I have been told by the "Experts" is that this is a deep draft for DE's so I would then pick the best DE available (Unless of course there was a run on DE's in the first). __________________ I am in an abusive relationship with life and I am to cowardly to leave it. - Homer Simpson.

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real Guest Posts: n/a	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? The O-line will be fine... The D-line will be fine if we can find one starter who can get consistent pressure on the QB... I'm not overly worried about either....

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Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? O-line needs more work with a left/right tackle and a center needed, both in a bad way. To me, the d-line only needs a defensive tackle. __________________ "It is what it is."

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texans83 All Pro Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Friendswood Age: 30 Posts: 735 Rep Power: 8	Re: O-Line OR D-Line? coulda woulda didnt happen, the Dline scares me. Why dont they ty to trade TJ? I mean I know it would be a huge cap hit if we cut him but letts face it, all he is doing is taking up space.

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