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Old 02-26-2007   #1
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In the minds of many evaluators, including PFW resident draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki, there is a considerable gap between QBs JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn.

The way we hear it, it is Quinn, not Russell, who Nawrocki and a growing contingent of teams think will be the better pro. And perhaps to the surprise of many draft fans, more of the teams we consulted had finished their pre-Combine draft meetings thinking Quinn would be the better pro.

Multiple teams that have begun digging into Russell's background have been turned off by his lazy work habits and immaturity. When he took off his shirt at the Combine weigh-ins and exposed a very soft, fleshy body filled with baby fat, the concerns immediately heightened for one top-10 team that PFW spoke with, revealing what some consider to be the tip of the iceberg.

Much like Vince Young a year ago, whose poor Wonderlic test result was leaked and wound up setting in motion a lot of questions about how far he would fall, the significance of Russell's unshapely physique may be way overblown.

Our sources say Oakland’s Al Davis, who holds the top pick, is still chafed he decided not to take Matt Leinart a year ago and is dead-set on finding a signalcaller of the future to replace the recently released Aaron Brooks, whose option was not exercised after one year with the team.

Davis is widely assumed to favor the more strong-armed Russell, who better fits the vertical offense the Raiders have long run. However, had Davis made the call a year ago, our sources say he would have selected the more cerebral, NFL-ready Leinart, not the more strong-armed Jay Cutler, whom the Broncos traded up to select one pick later.

Said one astute, high-ranking evaluator, whose team has no need for a quarterback, of the draft's top two quarterbacks: “Physically, arm-strength-wise, there is no question who has the advantage. But if you want to talk about mental aptitude, ability to escape pressure and make good decisions, it's not even close. There is a big ‘miss’ factor on Russell. He had a lot of up-and-down games, and he makes a lot of bad decisions. He's sitting in the middle of the second round right now on our board. He'll never make it that far, but that’s where his value is. After Quinn, I would be sweating if I needed a quarterback from the rest of this crop.”

If Davis fails to land a veteran passer such as Houston’s David Carr, who has been thrown on the trading block after his struggles last year, or Byron Leftwich, who may be dealt despite Jack Del Rio’s statement that he is the Jaguars’ starter for 2007, don't be surprised if Quinn, not Russell, winds up becoming the first overall pick. Davis could be among those who are scared off by the red flags surrounding Russell and thus opt for Quinn. That could leave Russell, despite the concerns, falling only, like Young, to the No. 3 spot, where fellow Mobile, Ala., native and Browns GM Phil Savage would be waiting with open arms, the way we hear it.

Sources close to the Browns have even speculated that Savage, who helped advise Russell on his decision to enter the draft, has already informed Russell that he would not fall any further than the spot where the Browns were picking, and that he would be a lock top-four pick.
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Dear sweet baby Jesus...let the Raiders take Calvin or Quinn and let Cleve-land go with Russell. Please sweet baby Jesus let Peterson fall to the Texans.

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His softness would worry me too. Now he's probably made the rounds on the award circuit so his diet and workout have probably suffered, but knowing that the biggest interview of your life was coming up and not working out hard beforehand?

Wonder what his study habits would be like in the NFL?
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Dear sweet baby Jesus...let the Raiders take Calvin or Quinn and let Cleve-land go with Russell. Please sweet baby Jesus let Peterson fall to the Texans.

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It would be about time for the Texans to catch a break.
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Another negative I see with Russell is his arrogance. If you saw him walking around at the combine you would think he owned the place, and he didn't do anything. He acts like he's got the #1 pick in the bag, and isn't that just what the Raiders need... another cocky player.

Good luck Lane Kiffin (a coach younger than alot of players on the team) trying to control the egos of Russell, Moss, & Porter... WOW! No pressure there for the youngest coach in the NFL...
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Another negative I see with Russell is his arrogance. If you saw him walking around at the combine you would think he owned the place, and he didn't do anything. He acts like he's got the #1 pick in the bag, and isn't that just what the Raiders need... another cocky player.

Good luck Lane Kiffin (a coach younger than alot of players on the team) trying to control the egos of Russell, Moss, & Porter... WOW! No pressure there for the youngest coach in the NFL...
I noticed he looked pretty arrogant as well...



I don't know if that has any affect on his on field performance though...
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His softness would worry me too. Now he's probably made the rounds on the award circuit so his diet and workout have probably suffered, but knowing that the biggest interview of your life was coming up and not working out hard beforehand?

Wonder what his study habits would be like in the NFL?
What awards did he win?
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I noticed he looked pretty arrogant as well...



I don't know if that has any affect on his on field performance though...

Well as far as scouting goes that falls under "coachability", something that all teams do take into strong consideration....
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I never really felt for Russell. When you take away his arm, there's not really anything else you could look at that stands out big. I wonder what he got on his Wonderlic....
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Dear sweet baby Jesus...let the Raiders take Calvin or Quinn and let Cleve-land go with Russell. Please sweet baby Jesus let Peterson fall to the Texans.

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What awards did he win?
The ESPN hype award...where have you been?
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Excellent! Best news I've heard today. Quinn goes to Oakland and Russell to Cleveland leaving that scrawny old Adrian Peterson for Mr McNair to make a millionairre. Hooray! We get our franchise back and Bush slowly fades to just another memory.....
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That's what i've been thinking. Russell has such a long way to go before he becomes a great quarterback. That was interesting reading that one team has him as a mid second.

He sure has a big upside but with that comes a lot of risk. of all the top ten rated players I have Russell as the biggest bust factor...maybe next to Ginn.

He could be a great fit for oakland with that big arm of his and they need a qb, but that's all it is...a need pick for them...they should go with calvin johnson or even joe thomas. i'd suggest them trading down but that will be very difficult. al davis doesnt want to take a qb or lt again at 1. everyone's been saying he's gonna take russell but that pick is way overvalued for russell.

personally i'd rather quinn than russell for the texans. but russell would intrigue me if he fell to us. i'd just rather us not spend our 1st on a qb.
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Speaking of winning the big one (or not), Quinn, by my very unofficial count, was 2-8 in the Very Big Ones at Notre Dame: 2-1 versus Michigan, 0-4 against USC, 0-3 in bowl games. Not good. But let's not slay Quinn over it just yet. In those eight losses, Notre Dame allowed 47, 44, 41, 34, 34, 41, 38 and 45 points.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...26/indy/3.html


From Peter King's MMQB. I don't expect Quinn, AP, or Levi Brown to last until the 8th pick, but would love to have any of the three.
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those scores say it all, MT. hard to win those "big games" when your defense allows 40.5 points per game.
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Yeah go to tell Vince Young that his mental aptitude matters.
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Yeah go to tell Vince Young that his mental aptitude matters.
i would but i doubt he'd understand the word "aptitude."
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i would but i doubt he'd understand the word "aptitude."
Yeah, too bad that the NFL administers spelling tests and physics exams to determine the winner of every game. I heard the Super Bowl is chosen by which team can solve the Good Will Hunting math problem the fastest.
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it's also too bad you need to be able to pass the ball to win a super bowl. sucks...
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it's also too bad you need to be able to pass the ball to win a super bowl. sucks...
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