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Old 02-16-2007   #1
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Default Restructure or get cut.

Haven't seen this anywhere on here.

From HoustonProFootball.com's front page

According to a report aired by radio station KBME-AM in Houston, the Texans have asked Domanick Williams, Seth Payne, and Kailee Wong to restructure their contracts. Any failure to renegotiate terms with the team before March 2nd, the official start to the new league year, will likely result in that player's release.

The station also added that the Texans are very interested in restructuring the contract of Eric Moulds, but it was unclear from the report as to whether the team might release Moulds if he refused to rework his deal.

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/
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Default Re: Restructure or get cut.

Hate to see Payne and Wong go. Class acts , decent players who are past there prime. I don't care if Williams stays or goes. It wouldn't be much of a lost.
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IMO, it looks like we coud be clearing the decks in order to make a purchase or two.
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Default Re: Restructure or get cut.

I think Payne can be a contributor still, he was our best DT clearly before the injuries hit.

The others I'm not too fussed about.

Hope Moulds restructures he is getting paid far more than what he is contributing.
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Default Re: Restructure or get cut.

Thanks for the link. I had a feeling something like this would happen to some of the players, especially DD/DW and Payne. I can't really see either one coming back. At least not for the Texans. It's too bad to, they were both pretty good players before their injuries. It'll be interesting to see what they do. JMHO!
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Seth might still have some value, but I wouldn't mind seeing any of the three go.
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The fact that we are willing to cut Payne tells me that DT is VERY high on our priority list this offseason.
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The fact that we are willing to cut Payne tells me that DT is VERY high on our priority list this offseason.
Payne is old and coming off a pretty serious injury.
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Haven't seen this anywhere on here.

From HoustonProFootball.com's front page

According to a report aired by radio station KBME-AM in Houston, the Texans have asked Domanick Williams, Seth Payne, and Kailee Wong to restructure their contracts. Any failure to renegotiate terms with the team before March 2nd, the official start to the new league year, will likely result in that player's release.

The station also added that the Texans are very interested in restructuring the contract of Eric Moulds, but it was unclear from the report as to whether the team might release Moulds if he refused to rework his deal.

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/
We don't need them anyway. But, I do think we could find some half-wit GM out there that will give us a draft pick for DW.
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Haven't seen this anywhere on here.

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According to a report aired by radio station KBME-AM in Houston, the Texans have asked Domanick Williams, Seth Payne, and Kailee Wong to restructure their contracts. Any failure to renegotiate terms with the team before March 2nd, the official start to the new league year, will likely result in that player's release.

The station also added that the Texans are very interested in restructuring the contract of Eric Moulds, but it was unclear from the report as to whether the team might release Moulds if he refused to rework his deal.

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/

Its kinda funny that they didn't ask Carr to restructure his contract as well.......
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Default Re: Restructure or get cut.

Payne and Wong would be very missed players. And like a poster above, DT is a high priority at this specific moment whether people like it or not. Rick Smith's first failure was letting Robaire Smith go. Big whoops.

Williams and Moulds on the other hand, would be huge losses for this franchise. We all saw what happened to the Texans when Domanick gets hurt, and the fantastic year that Andre had. In my opinion, this is our priority...to figure a way out to get Domanick back at a cheaper rate...and somehow to keep Moulds.
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Default Re: Restructure or get cut.

Keep Moulds. Let payne, wong, and williams restructure, or get cut.
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Payne and Wong would be very missed players. And like a poster above, DT is a high priority at this specific moment whether people like it or not. Rick Smith's first failure was letting Robaire Smith go. Big whoops.

Williams and Moulds on the other hand, would be huge losses for this franchise. We all saw what happened to the Texans when Domanick gets hurt, and the fantastic year that Andre had. In my opinion, this is our priority...to figure a way out to get Domanick back at a cheaper rate...and somehow to keep Moulds.

Robaire Smith had a pretty big contract. He was cut because we're trying to rebuild, and unfortunately, when you do that, you can't keep everybody you'd like to...strictly because of salary cap reasons.
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Payne is old and coming off a pretty serious injury.
yes and despite that he is STILL the best DT we have.. and we are seriously hurting at that position. A willingness to get rid of him says to me that we intend to focus on that position this offseason.
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Rick Smith's first failure was letting Robaire Smith go. .
Sometimes I wonder ...

Beemer or no Beemer, Robaire was an overpaid, bad attitude, oft injured, show up for two games a year tub of goo who took advantage of our inept former GM to the tune of a 6 year, $30 million dollar contract. He was a necessary purge and I was glad to see him go.

Robaire's fate may have been sealed on the first day of training camp last summer when Kubiak called him out for fighting..... "I don't care who you are, if that happens again, you're out of here" were Kubiak's exact words to Robaire at the end of the practice. Flanagan was also involved but Kubak's ire was directed at Smith. I have reason to believe that Robaire rubbed off on TJ in a bad way and that he wasn't a good guy to have around younger players. Kubiak, Smith and the coaches saw it and did what they had to do, and they did it quickly.

Robaire is part of the troika of worst contract signings in club history along with Walker's ridiculous extension and Wade's ridiculous 30 million dollar FA deal.

Anthony Maddox is twice the player Robaire Smith was... for 1/20 the money.

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If Wong is all the way back from his ACL injury, I'd like to see him restructure and stay. He'd be good depth and a good veteran presence. If he won't restructure, been nice knowin' ya. IMO, Payne is snakebit, good player or not. Williams will NOT be back. As the article stated, there is another "undisclosed setback" with his rehab. It's called a chronic condition. Short of a miracle, his knee will never be the same. I want Moulds to stay. I think he's been a good influence on the team, as whole. This FO seems to know exactly what they want in a player and they aren't afraid to clean house. Maybe we can get out of salary cap hell as quickly as the thumbtacks did. I don't think we'll see ridiculous FA signings of players past their prime like the prvious regime did.
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Robaire is part of the troika of worst contract signings in club history along with Walker's ridiculous extension and Wade's ridiculous 30 million dollar FA deal.
You're right about those 3, they were definitely overpaid except that among them atleast Walker was talented and very productive at times when he wasn't in sick bay.
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I stand oppossed to too much dissin of Gary Walker.

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I stand oppossed to too much dissin of Gary Walker.[/IMG]

I stand opposed to giving players ridiculous contract extensions when they are obviously on the down side of their careers. The Texans clearly panicked when they re-signed Walker to that deal.

Walker earned his Pro Bowl the year that picture was taken. He was great that year.

But that was about it -- in terms of return on value for what he was earning. Walker hasn't played a down for the Texans in two years but we're still paying for it in dead money on the cap.

It's funny that picture is still making the rounds. I scanned that image in from my paper Chronicle years ago.

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I stand opposed to giving players ridiculous contract extensions when they are obviously on the down side of their careers.

Walker earned his Pro Bowl the year that picture was taken.

That was about it.

It's funny that picture is still making the rounds. I scanned that image in from my paper Chronicle years ago.
Really?

Well damn! Thank you.

That was my wallpaper for pretty much all of 2002 and into 2003.
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